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Old 06-16-2004, 11:04 AM   #81 (permalink)
Denver C. Fox
 
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Re: Just finished 207 Mile ride (and I need to brag ;-) Long

>I think how many miles is really not that important. You can ride 80 miles
>of tough hills and be more tired than riding 150 flat IMHO. Not sure if
>other people feel this way, but if I was riding in Florida or some flat
>state, I think I would hit 100 miles quite often on a training ride . . . .


Agreed!

How about using time on the saddle instead of miles as a comparison? Even
average speed means little if you are doing hills.



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Old 06-16-2004, 06:51 PM   #82 (permalink)
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On 16 Jun 2004 19:04:53 GMT, Denver C. Fox wrote:
>>I think how many miles is really not that important. You can ride 80 miles
>>of tough hills and be more tired than riding 150 flat IMHO. Not sure if
>>other people feel this way, but if I was riding in Florida or some flat
>>state, I think I would hit 100 miles quite often on a training ride . . . .

>
> Agreed!
>
> How about using time on the saddle instead of miles as a comparison? Even
> average speed means little if you are doing hills.


I did a hilly 65 in Morristown NJ last week (still pretty easy) one of
my other riders hates hills since he got over his illness a few years
ago. It was pretty slow and by the end I was tired. I did try a ride
called Hillier Than Thou. I was going to do the 65 but after I hit the
first hill (612 ft elev.) I decided I didn't have the lungs for it. So
I did the 45 (turned into 53). I was so tired after that I slept all
night when I got home. I may try it again in the future. I think the
Century has 11500 ft of climb with a 12% section. The 45 had a lot
less, maybe 2000 - 3000 ft. Still for a flat land rider that
hurts. :-) Wind I can handle, hills handle me.

BTW, the Longest Day has a few hills at the beginning nothing too
nasty except for a steep section before Newton. But I handled that
much better this year. Last year it really hurt.

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Old 06-16-2004, 06:51 PM   #83 (permalink)
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Re: Just finished 207 Mile ride (and I need to brag ;-) Long

On 16 Jun 2004 19:04:53 GMT, Denver C. Fox wrote:
>>I think how many miles is really not that important. You can ride 80 miles
>>of tough hills and be more tired than riding 150 flat IMHO. Not sure if
>>other people feel this way, but if I was riding in Florida or some flat
>>state, I think I would hit 100 miles quite often on a training ride . . . .

>
> Agreed!
>
> How about using time on the saddle instead of miles as a comparison? Even
> average speed means little if you are doing hills.


I did a hilly 65 in Morristown NJ last week (still pretty easy) one of
my other riders hates hills since he got over his illness a few years
ago. It was pretty slow and by the end I was tired. I did try a ride
called Hillier Than Thou. I was going to do the 65 but after I hit the
first hill (612 ft elev.) I decided I didn't have the lungs for it. So
I did the 45 (turned into 53). I was so tired after that I slept all
night when I got home. I may try it again in the future. I think the
Century has 11500 ft of climb with a 12% section. The 45 had a lot
less, maybe 2000 - 3000 ft. Still for a flat land rider that
hurts. :-) Wind I can handle, hills handle me.

BTW, the Longest Day has a few hills at the beginning nothing too
nasty except for a steep section before Newton. But I handled that
much better this year. Last year it really hurt.

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Old 06-16-2004, 06:51 PM   #84 (permalink)
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Re: Just finished 207 Mile ride (and I need to brag ;-) Long

On 16 Jun 2004 19:04:53 GMT, Denver C. Fox wrote:
>>I think how many miles is really not that important. You can ride 80 miles
>>of tough hills and be more tired than riding 150 flat IMHO. Not sure if
>>other people feel this way, but if I was riding in Florida or some flat
>>state, I think I would hit 100 miles quite often on a training ride . . . .

>
> Agreed!
>
> How about using time on the saddle instead of miles as a comparison? Even
> average speed means little if you are doing hills.


I did a hilly 65 in Morristown NJ last week (still pretty easy) one of
my other riders hates hills since he got over his illness a few years
ago. It was pretty slow and by the end I was tired. I did try a ride
called Hillier Than Thou. I was going to do the 65 but after I hit the
first hill (612 ft elev.) I decided I didn't have the lungs for it. So
I did the 45 (turned into 53). I was so tired after that I slept all
night when I got home. I may try it again in the future. I think the
Century has 11500 ft of climb with a 12% section. The 45 had a lot
less, maybe 2000 - 3000 ft. Still for a flat land rider that
hurts. :-) Wind I can handle, hills handle me.

BTW, the Longest Day has a few hills at the beginning nothing too
nasty except for a steep section before Newton. But I handled that
much better this year. Last year it really hurt.

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Old 06-16-2004, 06:51 PM   #85 (permalink)
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On 16 Jun 2004 19:04:53 GMT, Denver C. Fox wrote:
>>I think how many miles is really not that important. You can ride 80 miles
>>of tough hills and be more tired than riding 150 flat IMHO. Not sure if
>>other people feel this way, but if I was riding in Florida or some flat
>>state, I think I would hit 100 miles quite often on a training ride . . . .

>
> Agreed!
>
> How about using time on the saddle instead of miles as a comparison? Even
> average speed means little if you are doing hills.


I did a hilly 65 in Morristown NJ last week (still pretty easy) one of
my other riders hates hills since he got over his illness a few years
ago. It was pretty slow and by the end I was tired. I did try a ride
called Hillier Than Thou. I was going to do the 65 but after I hit the
first hill (612 ft elev.) I decided I didn't have the lungs for it. So
I did the 45 (turned into 53). I was so tired after that I slept all
night when I got home. I may try it again in the future. I think the
Century has 11500 ft of climb with a 12% section. The 45 had a lot
less, maybe 2000 - 3000 ft. Still for a flat land rider that
hurts. :-) Wind I can handle, hills handle me.

BTW, the Longest Day has a few hills at the beginning nothing too
nasty except for a steep section before Newton. But I handled that
much better this year. Last year it really hurt.

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Old 06-16-2004, 06:51 PM   #86 (permalink)
Neil Cherry
 
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Re: Just finished 207 Mile ride (and I need to brag ;-) Long

On 16 Jun 2004 19:04:53 GMT, Denver C. Fox wrote:
>>I think how many miles is really not that important. You can ride 80 miles
>>of tough hills and be more tired than riding 150 flat IMHO. Not sure if
>>other people feel this way, but if I was riding in Florida or some flat
>>state, I think I would hit 100 miles quite often on a training ride . . . .

>
> Agreed!
>
> How about using time on the saddle instead of miles as a comparison? Even
> average speed means little if you are doing hills.


I did a hilly 65 in Morristown NJ last week (still pretty easy) one of
my other riders hates hills since he got over his illness a few years
ago. It was pretty slow and by the end I was tired. I did try a ride
called Hillier Than Thou. I was going to do the 65 but after I hit the
first hill (612 ft elev.) I decided I didn't have the lungs for it. So
I did the 45 (turned into 53). I was so tired after that I slept all
night when I got home. I may try it again in the future. I think the
Century has 11500 ft of climb with a 12% section. The 45 had a lot
less, maybe 2000 - 3000 ft. Still for a flat land rider that
hurts. :-) Wind I can handle, hills handle me.

BTW, the Longest Day has a few hills at the beginning nothing too
nasty except for a steep section before Newton. But I handled that
much better this year. Last year it really hurt.

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