Forums Register Members List Calendar Reviews Bike Rack Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   Cycling Mob > Cycling Forums > General Cycling > Re: published helmet research - not troll


Reply
 
Submit Tools LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 06-17-2004, 10:22 AM   #31 (permalink)
Benjamin Lewis
 
Posts: n/a
Re: published helmet research - not troll

Frank Krygowski wrote:

> The discussions take place at a much higher level than the typical
> wreck.bike discussions (if you can believe such a thing!) For example,
> no time is wasted on tales like "My buddy ran into a swarm of
> butterflies, and I _know_ his helmet saved his life!!!!" ;-) It all
> tends to be very scientific, very mathematical.


Uh oh. I'm afraid you may have just woken up the Anti-Science Beast. Or
perhaps I should say "drawn the attention of" -- the Beast never sleeps.

--
Benjamin Lewis

Politics: A strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles.
The conduct of public affairs for private advantage.
-- Ambrose Bierce
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2004, 11:33 AM   #32 (permalink)
Tim McNamara
 
Posts: n/a
Re: published helmet research - not troll

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Bill Z.) writes:

> You should note Krygowski's tactics.


Yours are exactly the same tactics. Hmmm.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2004, 11:33 AM   #33 (permalink)
Tim McNamara
 
Posts: n/a
Re: published helmet research - not troll

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Bill Z.) writes:

> You should note Krygowski's tactics.


Yours are exactly the same tactics. Hmmm.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2004, 11:33 AM   #34 (permalink)
Tim McNamara
 
Posts: n/a
Re: published helmet research - not troll

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Bill Z.) writes:

> You should note Krygowski's tactics.


Yours are exactly the same tactics. Hmmm.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2004, 11:33 AM   #35 (permalink)
Tim McNamara
 
Posts: n/a
Re: published helmet research - not troll

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Bill Z.) writes:

> You should note Krygowski's tactics.


Yours are exactly the same tactics. Hmmm.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2004, 11:33 AM   #36 (permalink)
Tim McNamara
 
Posts: n/a
Re: published helmet research - not troll

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Bill Z.) writes:

> You should note Krygowski's tactics.


Yours are exactly the same tactics. Hmmm.
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2004, 01:07 PM   #37 (permalink)
Just zis Guy, you know?
 
Posts: n/a
Re: published helmet research - not troll

On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 01:48:42 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].edu>:

>Both of those are helmet skeptic sites. To be fair, I must also point
>you to the rabidly pro-helmet "Bicycle Helmet Safety Institute",
>[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] This "institute" (named Randy Swart) is working to make
>it illegal for anyone of any age to ride a bike at any time without a
>helmet. I quote: "The Bicycle Helmet Safety Institute supports
>carefully drawn mandatory helmet laws covering all age groups."


And Randyt thinks that stopping using the Thompson, Rivara and
Thompson figure of 85% efficacy would be "unhelpful" despite it's
being derived by comparing entirely different populations and
ascribing all the difference to helmet use. In other words, he is a
True Believer :-)

Guy
--
May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington University
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2004, 01:07 PM   #38 (permalink)
Just zis Guy, you know?
 
Posts: n/a
Re: published helmet research - not troll

On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 01:48:42 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].edu>:

>Both of those are helmet skeptic sites. To be fair, I must also point
>you to the rabidly pro-helmet "Bicycle Helmet Safety Institute",
>[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] This "institute" (named Randy Swart) is working to make
>it illegal for anyone of any age to ride a bike at any time without a
>helmet. I quote: "The Bicycle Helmet Safety Institute supports
>carefully drawn mandatory helmet laws covering all age groups."


And Randyt thinks that stopping using the Thompson, Rivara and
Thompson figure of 85% efficacy would be "unhelpful" despite it's
being derived by comparing entirely different populations and
ascribing all the difference to helmet use. In other words, he is a
True Believer :-)

Guy
--
May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington University
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2004, 01:07 PM   #39 (permalink)
Just zis Guy, you know?
 
Posts: n/a
Re: published helmet research - not troll

On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 01:48:42 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].edu>:

>Both of those are helmet skeptic sites. To be fair, I must also point
>you to the rabidly pro-helmet "Bicycle Helmet Safety Institute",
>[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] This "institute" (named Randy Swart) is working to make
>it illegal for anyone of any age to ride a bike at any time without a
>helmet. I quote: "The Bicycle Helmet Safety Institute supports
>carefully drawn mandatory helmet laws covering all age groups."


And Randyt thinks that stopping using the Thompson, Rivara and
Thompson figure of 85% efficacy would be "unhelpful" despite it's
being derived by comparing entirely different populations and
ascribing all the difference to helmet use. In other words, he is a
True Believer :-)

Guy
--
May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington University
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-17-2004, 01:07 PM   #40 (permalink)
Just zis Guy, you know?
 
Posts: n/a
Re: published helmet research - not troll

On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 01:48:42 -0400, Frank Krygowski
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].edu>:

>Both of those are helmet skeptic sites. To be fair, I must also point
>you to the rabidly pro-helmet "Bicycle Helmet Safety Institute",
>[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] This "institute" (named Randy Swart) is working to make
>it illegal for anyone of any age to ride a bike at any time without a
>helmet. I quote: "The Bicycle Helmet Safety Institute supports
>carefully drawn mandatory helmet laws covering all age groups."


And Randyt thinks that stopping using the Thompson, Rivara and
Thompson figure of 85% efficacy would be "unhelpful" despite it's
being derived by comparing entirely different populations and
ascribing all the difference to helmet use. In other words, he is a
True Believer :-)

Guy
--
May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington University
  Reply With Quote
Reply

Add this thread to:  Tag This Thread Tag This Thread  Submit to Clesto Clesto  Submit to Digg Digg  Submit to Reddit Reddit  Submit to Furl Furl  Submit to Del.icio.us Del.icio.us  Submit to Spurl Spurl


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 03:29 AM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.1.0
Style Design by vBStyles.com

Directory of Sports Blogs



1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15