Re: Ride with music or not?

06-23-2004, 08:43 AM

> I'm thinking about getting a mp3 player to listen to on long rides. Good
> Idea or Bad Idea?

Bad Idea. Purely for pyschological reasons. If you train with "workout
tunes", this could (in theory) hinder your performance in races and/or
more competitive group rides. Personally, I don't want to get used to the
music fueling my workouts since I may come to depend on it.

However, on very slow, long (and dreary) solo rides on the bike path, or
a stationary, I may ride with my iPod. Without the concern for cars,
I think this is okay.

As far as mp3 vs. minidisc, go with an mp3 player. I think MD's will soon be
obsolete, and mp3 players have more to offer.

Regards.

06-23-2004, 09:33 AM

On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 16:43:14 GMT, <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>> I'm thinking about getting a mp3 player to listen to on long rides.
>> Good
>> Idea or Bad Idea?
>
Is there a problem with the sounds of nature???
In the city I would want to hear what is coming up on me, be it a car,
dog, or person.
If you ride the same bike path every day, that might get boring enough for
a music diversion.
Does anybody want to jump in with statistic of how many people, probably
joggers mostly, get hurt by not hearing things due to their music
addiction during outdoor workouts???
The first Terminator movie (I think) had a scene of a girl getting blown
away because she was wearing headphones and didn't even hear the bad guy
breaking in. Movie, yes, possible, yes.
Bill Baka, onwer of a good home stereo.

06-23-2004, 09:33 AM

On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 16:43:14 GMT, <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>> I'm thinking about getting a mp3 player to listen to on long rides.
>> Good
>> Idea or Bad Idea?
>
Is there a problem with the sounds of nature???
In the city I would want to hear what is coming up on me, be it a car,
dog, or person.
If you ride the same bike path every day, that might get boring enough for
a music diversion.
Does anybody want to jump in with statistic of how many people, probably
joggers mostly, get hurt by not hearing things due to their music
addiction during outdoor workouts???
The first Terminator movie (I think) had a scene of a girl getting blown
away because she was wearing headphones and didn't even hear the bad guy
breaking in. Movie, yes, possible, yes.
Bill Baka, onwer of a good home stereo.

06-23-2004, 09:33 AM

On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 16:43:14 GMT, <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>> I'm thinking about getting a mp3 player to listen to on long rides.
>> Good
>> Idea or Bad Idea?
>
Is there a problem with the sounds of nature???
In the city I would want to hear what is coming up on me, be it a car,
dog, or person.
If you ride the same bike path every day, that might get boring enough for
a music diversion.
Does anybody want to jump in with statistic of how many people, probably
joggers mostly, get hurt by not hearing things due to their music
addiction during outdoor workouts???
The first Terminator movie (I think) had a scene of a girl getting blown
away because she was wearing headphones and didn't even hear the bad guy
breaking in. Movie, yes, possible, yes.
Bill Baka, onwer of a good home stereo.

06-23-2004, 09:33 AM

On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 16:43:14 GMT, <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>> I'm thinking about getting a mp3 player to listen to on long rides.
>> Good
>> Idea or Bad Idea?
>
Is there a problem with the sounds of nature???
In the city I would want to hear what is coming up on me, be it a car,
dog, or person.
If you ride the same bike path every day, that might get boring enough for
a music diversion.
Does anybody want to jump in with statistic of how many people, probably
joggers mostly, get hurt by not hearing things due to their music
addiction during outdoor workouts???
The first Terminator movie (I think) had a scene of a girl getting blown
away because she was wearing headphones and didn't even hear the bad guy
breaking in. Movie, yes, possible, yes.
Bill Baka, onwer of a good home stereo.

06-23-2004, 09:33 AM

On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 16:43:14 GMT, <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>> I'm thinking about getting a mp3 player to listen to on long rides.
>> Good
>> Idea or Bad Idea?
>
Is there a problem with the sounds of nature???
In the city I would want to hear what is coming up on me, be it a car,
dog, or person.
If you ride the same bike path every day, that might get boring enough for
a music diversion.
Does anybody want to jump in with statistic of how many people, probably
joggers mostly, get hurt by not hearing things due to their music
addiction during outdoor workouts???
The first Terminator movie (I think) had a scene of a girl getting blown
away because she was wearing headphones and didn't even hear the bad guy
breaking in. Movie, yes, possible, yes.
Bill Baka, onwer of a good home stereo.

06-26-2004, 08:00 PM

On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 16:43:14 +0000, uza wrote:

> However, on very slow, long (and dreary) solo rides on the bike path, or
> a stationary, I may ride with my iPod. Without the concern for cars,
> I think this is okay.

I will not worry about what is safe on a stationary bike, but on a bike
path this is a very, very bad idea. Imagine that there may be a cyclist
who is faster than you. He comes along behind you, and calls out the
standard (though a bit ambiguous) "On your left". Since you are listening
to Alice In Chains, you don't hear anything, but you decide at that moment
to pull over, and for some reason you pull to the left side (maybe there
is a bench there). Anyway, splat.

This has happened to me, with me playing the role of the passing rider.
Girl I hit was genuinely pissed off that I*had "hit her", regardless of
the fact that she was not paying attention -- since Alice or whoever had
her full attention through the headset -- and suddenly veered to the left
without looking.

--

David L. Johnson

__o | It doesn't get any easier, you just go faster. --Greg LeMond
_`\(,_ |
(_)/ (_) |

06-26-2004, 08:00 PM

On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 16:43:14 +0000, uza wrote:

> However, on very slow, long (and dreary) solo rides on the bike path, or
> a stationary, I may ride with my iPod. Without the concern for cars,
> I think this is okay.

I will not worry about what is safe on a stationary bike, but on a bike
path this is a very, very bad idea. Imagine that there may be a cyclist
who is faster than you. He comes along behind you, and calls out the
standard (though a bit ambiguous) "On your left". Since you are listening
to Alice In Chains, you don't hear anything, but you decide at that moment
to pull over, and for some reason you pull to the left side (maybe there
is a bench there). Anyway, splat.

This has happened to me, with me playing the role of the passing rider.
Girl I hit was genuinely pissed off that I*had "hit her", regardless of
the fact that she was not paying attention -- since Alice or whoever had
her full attention through the headset -- and suddenly veered to the left
without looking.

--

David L. Johnson

__o | It doesn't get any easier, you just go faster. --Greg LeMond
_`\(,_ |
(_)/ (_) |

06-26-2004, 08:00 PM

On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 16:43:14 +0000, uza wrote:

> However, on very slow, long (and dreary) solo rides on the bike path, or
> a stationary, I may ride with my iPod. Without the concern for cars,
> I think this is okay.

I will not worry about what is safe on a stationary bike, but on a bike
path this is a very, very bad idea. Imagine that there may be a cyclist
who is faster than you. He comes along behind you, and calls out the
standard (though a bit ambiguous) "On your left". Since you are listening
to Alice In Chains, you don't hear anything, but you decide at that moment
to pull over, and for some reason you pull to the left side (maybe there
is a bench there). Anyway, splat.

This has happened to me, with me playing the role of the passing rider.
Girl I hit was genuinely pissed off that I*had "hit her", regardless of
the fact that she was not paying attention -- since Alice or whoever had
her full attention through the headset -- and suddenly veered to the left
without looking.

--

David L. Johnson

__o | It doesn't get any easier, you just go faster. --Greg LeMond
_`\(,_ |
(_)/ (_) |

06-26-2004, 08:00 PM

On Wed, 23 Jun 2004 16:43:14 +0000, uza wrote:

> However, on very slow, long (and dreary) solo rides on the bike path, or
> a stationary, I may ride with my iPod. Without the concern for cars,
> I think this is okay.

I will not worry about what is safe on a stationary bike, but on a bike
path this is a very, very bad idea. Imagine that there may be a cyclist
who is faster than you. He comes along behind you, and calls out the
standard (though a bit ambiguous) "On your left". Since you are listening
to Alice In Chains, you don't hear anything, but you decide at that moment
to pull over, and for some reason you pull to the left side (maybe there
is a bench there). Anyway, splat.

This has happened to me, with me playing the role of the passing rider.
Girl I hit was genuinely pissed off that I*had "hit her", regardless of
the fact that she was not paying attention -- since Alice or whoever had
her full attention through the headset -- and suddenly veered to the left
without looking.

--

David L. Johnson

__o | It doesn't get any easier, you just go faster. --Greg LeMond
_`\(,_ |
(_)/ (_) |