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Old 06-26-2004, 11:12 PM   #91 (permalink)
Michael J. Klein
 
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Re: Cargo Rack on MTB - Considerations?

On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 19:16:06 +0100, "Just zis Guy, you know?"
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>On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 11:04:16 +0800, Michael J. Klein
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><[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>:
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>>I asked my LBS about putting a rear cargo rack on my new Yukon MTB.
>>He said that nobody does that, and it would limit my use of the bike
>>for off-roading.

>
>He lied.


Please read my response to this accusation in another reply post.

>I have a rack on my MTB and so do lots of other people I
>know. The Yukon is a hartail, right? The rack will not be in the


Yes it is.

>way. Only if you wanted to hang right over the rear wheel in extreme
>descents would it be an issue - and in that case you'd probably be on
>the wrong bike anyway ;-)


Not only that, but it would be the wrong rider in the wrong decade!

>>The reason that I have an MTB for street use is the
>>nature of the roads here. Often they are un-improved and differing
>>levels which I feel could be more easily negotiated by a mountain bike
>>rather than a road/comfort bike. Given that I don't use it for actual
>>hardcore off-roading, are there any other considerations about
>>mounting a rear cargo rack on my MTB, other than it looking retarded?

>
>None, probably. I had to use P-clips on my MTB because the rack I had
>spare didn't have a brake bridge mounting bar, you can get three-point
>mounting racks which bolt to the brake bridge if you don't have
>braze-ons. You might have trouble if you don't have eyelets, but I've
>never seen a bike which didn't have at least one set of eyelets.
>Sometimes you get single eyelets and have to share the bolt with the
>mudguards [fenders] and sometimes you get double eyelets.


On the left side are eyelets for the disc brake option (which I do not
have) and then underneath that is both an eyelet (threaded boss,
really) and an actual slotted eyelet beneath that on either side).
The seat stays have capped threades bosses. It looks like a rack
should just bolt right on.

>As to looking dorky, well, I'm not qualified to comment. We have


I already look dorky just standing around doing nothing. Add a bike,
and it gets worse. Like I care! lol

>seven active bikes in the family (4 MTBs, one tourer, a recumbent and
>a triplet) and every one is fitted with a rack.


Its a very practical accessory if you use your bike for anything other
than just riding a course.

Thanks Guy.


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Old 06-26-2004, 11:15 PM   #92 (permalink)
Michael J. Klein
 
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Re: Cargo Rack on MTB - Considerations?

On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 20:25:57 GMT, "Peter Cole"
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>"Michael J. Klein" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
>news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].. .
>> I asked my LBS about putting a rear cargo rack on my new Yukon MTB.
>> He said that nobody does that, and it would limit my use of the bike
>> for off-roading. The reason that I have an MTB for street use is the
>> nature of the roads here. Often they are un-improved and differing
>> levels which I feel could be more easily negotiated by a mountain bike
>> rather than a road/comfort bike. Given that I don't use it for actual
>> hardcore off-roading, are there any other considerations about
>> mounting a rear cargo rack on my MTB, other than it looking retarded?

>
>Nah, most MTB's have the fittings for racks. Fenders are probably not a good
>idea if you go off-road (they tend to pick up sticks and crumple and jam), but
>racks are fine. If you're going to stick to the streets, I'd get fenders, rack


I was thinking about the fenders becoming necessary at some point.

>and folding pannier. MTB's make great bad-road bikes -- try installing your


That's where my head was - bad road negotiation!

>own accessories, then you won't have to suffer random opinions...


I still have to suffer from all the opinons on the NG though! lol

I've learned a lot from the people who frequent USENET, that's for
sure.

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Old 06-26-2004, 11:15 PM   #93 (permalink)
Michael J. Klein
 
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Re: Cargo Rack on MTB - Considerations?

On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 20:25:57 GMT, "Peter Cole"
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>"Michael J. Klein" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
>news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].. .
>> I asked my LBS about putting a rear cargo rack on my new Yukon MTB.
>> He said that nobody does that, and it would limit my use of the bike
>> for off-roading. The reason that I have an MTB for street use is the
>> nature of the roads here. Often they are un-improved and differing
>> levels which I feel could be more easily negotiated by a mountain bike
>> rather than a road/comfort bike. Given that I don't use it for actual
>> hardcore off-roading, are there any other considerations about
>> mounting a rear cargo rack on my MTB, other than it looking retarded?

>
>Nah, most MTB's have the fittings for racks. Fenders are probably not a good
>idea if you go off-road (they tend to pick up sticks and crumple and jam), but
>racks are fine. If you're going to stick to the streets, I'd get fenders, rack


I was thinking about the fenders becoming necessary at some point.

>and folding pannier. MTB's make great bad-road bikes -- try installing your


That's where my head was - bad road negotiation!

>own accessories, then you won't have to suffer random opinions...


I still have to suffer from all the opinons on the NG though! lol

I've learned a lot from the people who frequent USENET, that's for
sure.

Michael J. Klein [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Dasi Jen, Taoyuan Hsien, Taiwan, ROC
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Old 06-26-2004, 11:15 PM   #94 (permalink)
Michael J. Klein
 
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Re: Cargo Rack on MTB - Considerations?

On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 20:25:57 GMT, "Peter Cole"
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>"Michael J. Klein" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
>news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].. .
>> I asked my LBS about putting a rear cargo rack on my new Yukon MTB.
>> He said that nobody does that, and it would limit my use of the bike
>> for off-roading. The reason that I have an MTB for street use is the
>> nature of the roads here. Often they are un-improved and differing
>> levels which I feel could be more easily negotiated by a mountain bike
>> rather than a road/comfort bike. Given that I don't use it for actual
>> hardcore off-roading, are there any other considerations about
>> mounting a rear cargo rack on my MTB, other than it looking retarded?

>
>Nah, most MTB's have the fittings for racks. Fenders are probably not a good
>idea if you go off-road (they tend to pick up sticks and crumple and jam), but
>racks are fine. If you're going to stick to the streets, I'd get fenders, rack


I was thinking about the fenders becoming necessary at some point.

>and folding pannier. MTB's make great bad-road bikes -- try installing your


That's where my head was - bad road negotiation!

>own accessories, then you won't have to suffer random opinions...


I still have to suffer from all the opinons on the NG though! lol

I've learned a lot from the people who frequent USENET, that's for
sure.

Michael J. Klein [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Dasi Jen, Taoyuan Hsien, Taiwan, ROC
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Old 06-26-2004, 11:15 PM   #95 (permalink)
Michael J. Klein
 
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Re: Cargo Rack on MTB - Considerations?

On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 20:25:57 GMT, "Peter Cole"
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>"Michael J. Klein" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
>news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].. .
>> I asked my LBS about putting a rear cargo rack on my new Yukon MTB.
>> He said that nobody does that, and it would limit my use of the bike
>> for off-roading. The reason that I have an MTB for street use is the
>> nature of the roads here. Often they are un-improved and differing
>> levels which I feel could be more easily negotiated by a mountain bike
>> rather than a road/comfort bike. Given that I don't use it for actual
>> hardcore off-roading, are there any other considerations about
>> mounting a rear cargo rack on my MTB, other than it looking retarded?

>
>Nah, most MTB's have the fittings for racks. Fenders are probably not a good
>idea if you go off-road (they tend to pick up sticks and crumple and jam), but
>racks are fine. If you're going to stick to the streets, I'd get fenders, rack


I was thinking about the fenders becoming necessary at some point.

>and folding pannier. MTB's make great bad-road bikes -- try installing your


That's where my head was - bad road negotiation!

>own accessories, then you won't have to suffer random opinions...


I still have to suffer from all the opinons on the NG though! lol

I've learned a lot from the people who frequent USENET, that's for
sure.

Michael J. Klein [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Dasi Jen, Taoyuan Hsien, Taiwan, ROC
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Old 06-26-2004, 11:15 PM   #96 (permalink)
Michael J. Klein
 
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Re: Cargo Rack on MTB - Considerations?

On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 20:25:57 GMT, "Peter Cole"
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>"Michael J. Klein" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
>news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].. .
>> I asked my LBS about putting a rear cargo rack on my new Yukon MTB.
>> He said that nobody does that, and it would limit my use of the bike
>> for off-roading. The reason that I have an MTB for street use is the
>> nature of the roads here. Often they are un-improved and differing
>> levels which I feel could be more easily negotiated by a mountain bike
>> rather than a road/comfort bike. Given that I don't use it for actual
>> hardcore off-roading, are there any other considerations about
>> mounting a rear cargo rack on my MTB, other than it looking retarded?

>
>Nah, most MTB's have the fittings for racks. Fenders are probably not a good
>idea if you go off-road (they tend to pick up sticks and crumple and jam), but
>racks are fine. If you're going to stick to the streets, I'd get fenders, rack


I was thinking about the fenders becoming necessary at some point.

>and folding pannier. MTB's make great bad-road bikes -- try installing your


That's where my head was - bad road negotiation!

>own accessories, then you won't have to suffer random opinions...


I still have to suffer from all the opinons on the NG though! lol

I've learned a lot from the people who frequent USENET, that's for
sure.

Michael J. Klein [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Dasi Jen, Taoyuan Hsien, Taiwan, ROC
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Old 06-26-2004, 11:21 PM   #97 (permalink)
Michael J. Klein
 
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Re: Cargo Rack on MTB - Considerations?

On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 14:20:15 -0700, Mark Hickey <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
wrote:

>Michael J. Klein <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
>>I asked my LBS about putting a rear cargo rack on my new Yukon MTB.
>>He said that nobody does that, and it would limit my use of the bike
>>for off-roading. The reason that I have an MTB for street use is the
>>nature of the roads here. Often they are un-improved and differing
>>levels which I feel could be more easily negotiated by a mountain bike
>>rather than a road/comfort bike. Given that I don't use it for actual
>>hardcore off-roading, are there any other considerations about
>>mounting a rear cargo rack on my MTB, other than it looking retarded?

>
>There's nothing "retarded" about a bike being used in a utilitarian
>manner - few things are actually as "unretarded".


Agreed.

>FWIW, I've been using a Delta seatpost mount rack for a couple years,
>and find it works very, very well. It places the rack a couple inches
>higher than it would be ideally, but that's a very small price to pay
>for the ability to "de-rack" the bike in seconds should I want to take
>it off-road in anger. The rack will handle up to 25 pounds (11.5kg),
>which is more than I'd ever be likely to put on it.


Good information, thanks Mark.

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Old 06-26-2004, 11:21 PM   #98 (permalink)
Michael J. Klein
 
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Re: Cargo Rack on MTB - Considerations?

On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 14:20:15 -0700, Mark Hickey <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
wrote:

>Michael J. Klein <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
>>I asked my LBS about putting a rear cargo rack on my new Yukon MTB.
>>He said that nobody does that, and it would limit my use of the bike
>>for off-roading. The reason that I have an MTB for street use is the
>>nature of the roads here. Often they are un-improved and differing
>>levels which I feel could be more easily negotiated by a mountain bike
>>rather than a road/comfort bike. Given that I don't use it for actual
>>hardcore off-roading, are there any other considerations about
>>mounting a rear cargo rack on my MTB, other than it looking retarded?

>
>There's nothing "retarded" about a bike being used in a utilitarian
>manner - few things are actually as "unretarded".


Agreed.

>FWIW, I've been using a Delta seatpost mount rack for a couple years,
>and find it works very, very well. It places the rack a couple inches
>higher than it would be ideally, but that's a very small price to pay
>for the ability to "de-rack" the bike in seconds should I want to take
>it off-road in anger. The rack will handle up to 25 pounds (11.5kg),
>which is more than I'd ever be likely to put on it.


Good information, thanks Mark.

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Old 06-26-2004, 11:21 PM   #99 (permalink)
Michael J. Klein
 
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Re: Cargo Rack on MTB - Considerations?

On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 14:20:15 -0700, Mark Hickey <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
wrote:

>Michael J. Klein <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
>>I asked my LBS about putting a rear cargo rack on my new Yukon MTB.
>>He said that nobody does that, and it would limit my use of the bike
>>for off-roading. The reason that I have an MTB for street use is the
>>nature of the roads here. Often they are un-improved and differing
>>levels which I feel could be more easily negotiated by a mountain bike
>>rather than a road/comfort bike. Given that I don't use it for actual
>>hardcore off-roading, are there any other considerations about
>>mounting a rear cargo rack on my MTB, other than it looking retarded?

>
>There's nothing "retarded" about a bike being used in a utilitarian
>manner - few things are actually as "unretarded".


Agreed.

>FWIW, I've been using a Delta seatpost mount rack for a couple years,
>and find it works very, very well. It places the rack a couple inches
>higher than it would be ideally, but that's a very small price to pay
>for the ability to "de-rack" the bike in seconds should I want to take
>it off-road in anger. The rack will handle up to 25 pounds (11.5kg),
>which is more than I'd ever be likely to put on it.


Good information, thanks Mark.

Michael J. Klein [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
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Old 06-26-2004, 11:21 PM   #100 (permalink)
Michael J. Klein
 
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Re: Cargo Rack on MTB - Considerations?

On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 14:20:15 -0700, Mark Hickey <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
wrote:

>Michael J. Klein <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
>>I asked my LBS about putting a rear cargo rack on my new Yukon MTB.
>>He said that nobody does that, and it would limit my use of the bike
>>for off-roading. The reason that I have an MTB for street use is the
>>nature of the roads here. Often they are un-improved and differing
>>levels which I feel could be more easily negotiated by a mountain bike
>>rather than a road/comfort bike. Given that I don't use it for actual
>>hardcore off-roading, are there any other considerations about
>>mounting a rear cargo rack on my MTB, other than it looking retarded?

>
>There's nothing "retarded" about a bike being used in a utilitarian
>manner - few things are actually as "unretarded".


Agreed.

>FWIW, I've been using a Delta seatpost mount rack for a couple years,
>and find it works very, very well. It places the rack a couple inches
>higher than it would be ideally, but that's a very small price to pay
>for the ability to "de-rack" the bike in seconds should I want to take
>it off-road in anger. The rack will handle up to 25 pounds (11.5kg),
>which is more than I'd ever be likely to put on it.


Good information, thanks Mark.

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