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Old 07-01-2004, 12:02 PM   #61 (permalink)
Tom Keats
 
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Re: Rumors?

In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com>,
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Pbwalther) writes:
> I rather doubt that an increase in metal prices would noticeably affect the
> price of a bicycle.


Same here. But I consider the possibility that shortages of
raw materials can lead to shortages of finished product --
effectively increasing demand over supply, thereby driving up
prices. But I might be wrong, or overly simplistic. I'm
certainly no economist. I prefer to leave such figuring up to
the academia nuts :-)


cheers,
Tom



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Old 07-01-2004, 09:31 PM   #62 (permalink)
Michael J. Klein
 
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Re: Rumors?

On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 06:51:37 GMT, "Mike Jacoubowsky/Chain Reaction
Bicycles" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>> Thanks for the insight. I agree that if you want a new bike NOW, get
>> it, don't wait! However, if the Chinese are increasing their costs,
>> how soon will it be before these same mfrs will move their production
>> facilities over to other "lower-cost" countries like maybe the
>> Philippines or Vietnam or even Cambodia....

>
>It's inevitable that production will continue to shift towards emerging
>3rd-world countries as a means to save money. However, the Philippines
>might not be as likely as many others, since they've become relatively
>stagnant in their "emergence." One would have thought that the Philippines
>would have evolved into a major manufacturing center long ago, given their
>relative proximity to countries that have long felt the effects of improving
>(and expensive) living standards. Probably just shows my ignorance of the
>Asian economic situation.


<snip>

Is because that the Philippines looks to the US as an example. Due to
the political affiliation with the US, its very much like a poor US
state in some regards, not like the rest of Asia.
Michael J. Klein [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Dasi Jen, Taoyuan Hsien, Taiwan, ROC
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Old 07-01-2004, 09:31 PM   #63 (permalink)
Michael J. Klein
 
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Re: Rumors?

On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 06:51:37 GMT, "Mike Jacoubowsky/Chain Reaction
Bicycles" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>> Thanks for the insight. I agree that if you want a new bike NOW, get
>> it, don't wait! However, if the Chinese are increasing their costs,
>> how soon will it be before these same mfrs will move their production
>> facilities over to other "lower-cost" countries like maybe the
>> Philippines or Vietnam or even Cambodia....

>
>It's inevitable that production will continue to shift towards emerging
>3rd-world countries as a means to save money. However, the Philippines
>might not be as likely as many others, since they've become relatively
>stagnant in their "emergence." One would have thought that the Philippines
>would have evolved into a major manufacturing center long ago, given their
>relative proximity to countries that have long felt the effects of improving
>(and expensive) living standards. Probably just shows my ignorance of the
>Asian economic situation.


<snip>

Is because that the Philippines looks to the US as an example. Due to
the political affiliation with the US, its very much like a poor US
state in some regards, not like the rest of Asia.
Michael J. Klein [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Dasi Jen, Taoyuan Hsien, Taiwan, ROC
Please replace mousepotato with asiancastings
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Old 07-01-2004, 09:31 PM   #64 (permalink)
Michael J. Klein
 
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Re: Rumors?

On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 06:51:37 GMT, "Mike Jacoubowsky/Chain Reaction
Bicycles" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>> Thanks for the insight. I agree that if you want a new bike NOW, get
>> it, don't wait! However, if the Chinese are increasing their costs,
>> how soon will it be before these same mfrs will move their production
>> facilities over to other "lower-cost" countries like maybe the
>> Philippines or Vietnam or even Cambodia....

>
>It's inevitable that production will continue to shift towards emerging
>3rd-world countries as a means to save money. However, the Philippines
>might not be as likely as many others, since they've become relatively
>stagnant in their "emergence." One would have thought that the Philippines
>would have evolved into a major manufacturing center long ago, given their
>relative proximity to countries that have long felt the effects of improving
>(and expensive) living standards. Probably just shows my ignorance of the
>Asian economic situation.


<snip>

Is because that the Philippines looks to the US as an example. Due to
the political affiliation with the US, its very much like a poor US
state in some regards, not like the rest of Asia.
Michael J. Klein [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Dasi Jen, Taoyuan Hsien, Taiwan, ROC
Please replace mousepotato with asiancastings
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Old 07-01-2004, 09:31 PM   #65 (permalink)
Michael J. Klein
 
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Re: Rumors?

On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 06:51:37 GMT, "Mike Jacoubowsky/Chain Reaction
Bicycles" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>> Thanks for the insight. I agree that if you want a new bike NOW, get
>> it, don't wait! However, if the Chinese are increasing their costs,
>> how soon will it be before these same mfrs will move their production
>> facilities over to other "lower-cost" countries like maybe the
>> Philippines or Vietnam or even Cambodia....

>
>It's inevitable that production will continue to shift towards emerging
>3rd-world countries as a means to save money. However, the Philippines
>might not be as likely as many others, since they've become relatively
>stagnant in their "emergence." One would have thought that the Philippines
>would have evolved into a major manufacturing center long ago, given their
>relative proximity to countries that have long felt the effects of improving
>(and expensive) living standards. Probably just shows my ignorance of the
>Asian economic situation.


<snip>

Is because that the Philippines looks to the US as an example. Due to
the political affiliation with the US, its very much like a poor US
state in some regards, not like the rest of Asia.
Michael J. Klein [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Dasi Jen, Taoyuan Hsien, Taiwan, ROC
Please replace mousepotato with asiancastings
---------------------------------------------
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Old 07-01-2004, 09:31 PM   #66 (permalink)
Michael J. Klein
 
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Re: Rumors?

On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 06:51:37 GMT, "Mike Jacoubowsky/Chain Reaction
Bicycles" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>> Thanks for the insight. I agree that if you want a new bike NOW, get
>> it, don't wait! However, if the Chinese are increasing their costs,
>> how soon will it be before these same mfrs will move their production
>> facilities over to other "lower-cost" countries like maybe the
>> Philippines or Vietnam or even Cambodia....

>
>It's inevitable that production will continue to shift towards emerging
>3rd-world countries as a means to save money. However, the Philippines
>might not be as likely as many others, since they've become relatively
>stagnant in their "emergence." One would have thought that the Philippines
>would have evolved into a major manufacturing center long ago, given their
>relative proximity to countries that have long felt the effects of improving
>(and expensive) living standards. Probably just shows my ignorance of the
>Asian economic situation.


<snip>

Is because that the Philippines looks to the US as an example. Due to
the political affiliation with the US, its very much like a poor US
state in some regards, not like the rest of Asia.
Michael J. Klein [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Dasi Jen, Taoyuan Hsien, Taiwan, ROC
Please replace mousepotato with asiancastings
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