Re: I was misled - Page 3

06-28-2004, 08:38 PM

Kevan Smith <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 06:52:12 -0700, Mark Hickey <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> from
>Habanero Cycles wrote:
>
>>If it's your contention that saying "some of the nicest people I know
>>happen to be Muslim" is a "hackneyed metaphor", I'd say you're WAY out
>>of touch with reality. Way out of touch.
>
>Here in the deep south, racism is still a daily issue. I often hear "Some of
>the nicest people I know are black." However, the people saying that often
>don't consider black people nice enough for their homes and churches. I hope
>your attitude is different regarding Muslims, and, I think it is. You just
>happened to use an unfortunate turn of phrase.

I guess I'm living in a (partially) hopelessly PC world. I personally
wouldn't feel offended if someone included some group I was in in a
similar statement...

.... some of the nicest people I know happen to be bicyclists

.... some of the nicest people I know happen to be white males

.... some of the nicest people I know happen to be Christians

.... some of the nicest people I know happen to be tall, incredibly
intelligent and good looking suave fellows.

Errr, three out of four...

But whatever - I've always been for equal treatment for everyone.
That made me a liberal 30 years ago, and a conservative now.

I've hired LOTS of people over the years (not in the bike biz), and I
can say that if there was a group seriously under-represented, it
would be white males. Not because I tried to hire minorities and
women - I just had good applicants who happened to be Muslims, blacks,
women, (and of course, Chinese... but in China that wasn't worth any
extra points). Ooops, did I cross another PC boundary? ;-)

Mark Hickey
Habanero Cycles
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Home of the $695 ti frame

06-28-2004, 08:46 PM

"G.T." <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>Mark Hickey wrote:
>
>> If it's your contention that saying "some of the nicest people I know
>> happen to be Muslim" is a "hackneyed metaphor", I'd say you're WAY out
>> of touch with reality. Way out of touch.
>
>Some of the nicest people I know happen to be black.

Me too.

If you look at the statement's construction, it's saying (clearly I
think) that race / religion is not the issue, but the individual's
character. Isn't that kinda the whole point?

Mark Hickey
Habanero Cycles
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Home of the $695 ti frame

06-28-2004, 08:46 PM

"G.T." <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>Mark Hickey wrote:
>
>> If it's your contention that saying "some of the nicest people I know
>> happen to be Muslim" is a "hackneyed metaphor", I'd say you're WAY out
>> of touch with reality. Way out of touch.
>
>Some of the nicest people I know happen to be black.

Me too.

If you look at the statement's construction, it's saying (clearly I
think) that race / religion is not the issue, but the individual's
character. Isn't that kinda the whole point?

Mark Hickey
Habanero Cycles
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Home of the $695 ti frame

06-28-2004, 08:46 PM

"G.T." <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>Mark Hickey wrote:
>
>> If it's your contention that saying "some of the nicest people I know
>> happen to be Muslim" is a "hackneyed metaphor", I'd say you're WAY out
>> of touch with reality. Way out of touch.
>
>Some of the nicest people I know happen to be black.

Me too.

If you look at the statement's construction, it's saying (clearly I
think) that race / religion is not the issue, but the individual's
character. Isn't that kinda the whole point?

Mark Hickey
Habanero Cycles
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Home of the $695 ti frame

06-28-2004, 08:46 PM

"G.T." <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>Mark Hickey wrote:
>
>> If it's your contention that saying "some of the nicest people I know
>> happen to be Muslim" is a "hackneyed metaphor", I'd say you're WAY out
>> of touch with reality. Way out of touch.
>
>Some of the nicest people I know happen to be black.

Me too.

If you look at the statement's construction, it's saying (clearly I
think) that race / religion is not the issue, but the individual's
character. Isn't that kinda the whole point?

Mark Hickey
Habanero Cycles
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Home of the $695 ti frame

06-28-2004, 08:46 PM

"G.T." <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>Mark Hickey wrote:
>
>> If it's your contention that saying "some of the nicest people I know
>> happen to be Muslim" is a "hackneyed metaphor", I'd say you're WAY out
>> of touch with reality. Way out of touch.
>
>Some of the nicest people I know happen to be black.

Me too.

If you look at the statement's construction, it's saying (clearly I
think) that race / religion is not the issue, but the individual's
character. Isn't that kinda the whole point?

Mark Hickey
Habanero Cycles
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Home of the $695 ti frame

06-29-2004, 06:06 AM

Mark Hickey wrote:

> But whatever - I've always been for equal treatment for everyone.
> That made me a liberal 30 years ago, and a conservative now.

Forget MLK's dream - to be racially correct now
you have to consult your handy pocket race % guide
provided to you by the government and mentally
compute whether you've provided the appropriate
number of opportunities to a certain racial group
based upon their numerical representation in the
population.

--
Scott Johnson / scottjohnson at kc dot rr dot com

06-29-2004, 06:06 AM

Mark Hickey wrote:

> But whatever - I've always been for equal treatment for everyone.
> That made me a liberal 30 years ago, and a conservative now.

Forget MLK's dream - to be racially correct now
you have to consult your handy pocket race % guide
provided to you by the government and mentally
compute whether you've provided the appropriate
number of opportunities to a certain racial group
based upon their numerical representation in the
population.

--
Scott Johnson / scottjohnson at kc dot rr dot com

06-29-2004, 06:06 AM

Mark Hickey wrote:

> But whatever - I've always been for equal treatment for everyone.
> That made me a liberal 30 years ago, and a conservative now.

Forget MLK's dream - to be racially correct now
you have to consult your handy pocket race % guide
provided to you by the government and mentally
compute whether you've provided the appropriate
number of opportunities to a certain racial group
based upon their numerical representation in the
population.

--
Scott Johnson / scottjohnson at kc dot rr dot com

06-29-2004, 06:06 AM

Mark Hickey wrote:

> But whatever - I've always been for equal treatment for everyone.
> That made me a liberal 30 years ago, and a conservative now.

Forget MLK's dream - to be racially correct now
you have to consult your handy pocket race % guide
provided to you by the government and mentally
compute whether you've provided the appropriate
number of opportunities to a certain racial group
based upon their numerical representation in the
population.

--
Scott Johnson / scottjohnson at kc dot rr dot com