Re: I was misled - Page 5 - Cycling Mob: Road Cycling, Mountain Biking and More

06-29-2004, 09:07 AM

Mark Hickey <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:

>>> If it's your contention that saying "some of the nicest people I
>>> know happen to be Muslim" is a "hackneyed metaphor", I'd say
>>> you're WAY out of touch with reality. Way out of touch.

>> Here in the deep south, racism is still a daily issue. I often hear
>> "Some of the nicest people I know are black." However, the people
>> saying that often don't consider black people nice enough for their
>> homes and churches. I hope your attitude is different regarding
>> Muslims, and, I think it is. You just happened to use an
>> unfortunate turn of phrase.

> I guess I'm living in a (partially) hopelessly PC world. I
> personally wouldn't feel offended if someone included some group I
> was in in a similar statement...

> ... some of the nicest people I know happen to be bicyclists

> ... some of the nicest people I know happen to be white males

> ... some of the nicest people I know happen to be Christians

> ... some of the nicest people I know happen to be tall, incredibly
> intelligent and good looking suave fellows.

> Errr, three out of four...

> But whatever - I've always been for equal treatment for everyone.
> That made me a liberal 30 years ago, and a conservative now.

> I've hired LOTS of people over the years (not in the bike biz), and
> I can say that if there was a group seriously under-represented, it
> would be white males. Not because I tried to hire minorities and
> women - I just had good applicants who happened to be Muslims,
> blacks, women, (and of course, Chinese... but in China that wasn't
> worth any extra points). Ooops, did I cross another PC boundary?
> ;-)

Please don't stop there, just say it. Some of them ARE my best friends.
It's the tone that makes the music, not the notes themselves.

Jobst Brandt
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06-29-2004, 10:29 AM

Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 10:06:12 -0400, Top Sirloin
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>:
>
>
>>Forget MLK's dream - to be racially correct now
>>you have to consult your handy pocket race % guide
>>provided to you by the government and mentally
>>compute whether you've provided the appropriate
>>number of opportunities to a certain racial group
>>based upon their numerical representation in the
>>population.
>
>
> Provided they're not Muslims, obviously...

Islam is a religion, not a racial group.

--
Scott Johnson / scottjohnson at kc dot rr dot com

06-29-2004, 10:29 AM

Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 10:06:12 -0400, Top Sirloin
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>:
>
>
>>Forget MLK's dream - to be racially correct now
>>you have to consult your handy pocket race % guide
>>provided to you by the government and mentally
>>compute whether you've provided the appropriate
>>number of opportunities to a certain racial group
>>based upon their numerical representation in the
>>population.
>
>
> Provided they're not Muslims, obviously...

Islam is a religion, not a racial group.

--
Scott Johnson / scottjohnson at kc dot rr dot com

06-29-2004, 10:29 AM

Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 10:06:12 -0400, Top Sirloin
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>:
>
>
>>Forget MLK's dream - to be racially correct now
>>you have to consult your handy pocket race % guide
>>provided to you by the government and mentally
>>compute whether you've provided the appropriate
>>number of opportunities to a certain racial group
>>based upon their numerical representation in the
>>population.
>
>
> Provided they're not Muslims, obviously...

Islam is a religion, not a racial group.

--
Scott Johnson / scottjohnson at kc dot rr dot com

06-29-2004, 10:29 AM

Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 10:06:12 -0400, Top Sirloin
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>:
>
>
>>Forget MLK's dream - to be racially correct now
>>you have to consult your handy pocket race % guide
>>provided to you by the government and mentally
>>compute whether you've provided the appropriate
>>number of opportunities to a certain racial group
>>based upon their numerical representation in the
>>population.
>
>
> Provided they're not Muslims, obviously...

Islam is a religion, not a racial group.

--
Scott Johnson / scottjohnson at kc dot rr dot com

06-29-2004, 10:29 AM

Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 10:06:12 -0400, Top Sirloin
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>:
>
>
>>Forget MLK's dream - to be racially correct now
>>you have to consult your handy pocket race % guide
>>provided to you by the government and mentally
>>compute whether you've provided the appropriate
>>number of opportunities to a certain racial group
>>based upon their numerical representation in the
>>population.
>
>
> Provided they're not Muslims, obviously...

Islam is a religion, not a racial group.

--
Scott Johnson / scottjohnson at kc dot rr dot com

06-29-2004, 11:35 AM

On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 14:29:45 -0400, Top Sirloin
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>:

>>>Forget MLK's dream - to be racially correct now
>>>you have to consult your handy pocket race % guide
>>>provided to you by the government and mentally
>>>compute whether you've provided the appropriate
>>>number of opportunities to a certain racial group
>>>based upon their numerical representation in the
>>>population.

>> Provided they're not Muslims, obviously...

>Islam is a religion, not a racial group.

And the proportion of white Muslims is? Seems to me like faith has
become a backdoor by which race discrimination can be sneaked in.

Guy
--
May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
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88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington University

06-29-2004, 11:35 AM

On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 14:29:45 -0400, Top Sirloin
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>:

>>>Forget MLK's dream - to be racially correct now
>>>you have to consult your handy pocket race % guide
>>>provided to you by the government and mentally
>>>compute whether you've provided the appropriate
>>>number of opportunities to a certain racial group
>>>based upon their numerical representation in the
>>>population.

>> Provided they're not Muslims, obviously...

>Islam is a religion, not a racial group.

And the proportion of white Muslims is? Seems to me like faith has
become a backdoor by which race discrimination can be sneaked in.

Guy
--
May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington University

06-29-2004, 11:35 AM

On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 14:29:45 -0400, Top Sirloin
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>:

>>>Forget MLK's dream - to be racially correct now
>>>you have to consult your handy pocket race % guide
>>>provided to you by the government and mentally
>>>compute whether you've provided the appropriate
>>>number of opportunities to a certain racial group
>>>based upon their numerical representation in the
>>>population.

>> Provided they're not Muslims, obviously...

>Islam is a religion, not a racial group.

And the proportion of white Muslims is? Seems to me like faith has
become a backdoor by which race discrimination can be sneaked in.

Guy
--
May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
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88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington University

06-29-2004, 11:35 AM

On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 14:29:45 -0400, Top Sirloin
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>:

>>>Forget MLK's dream - to be racially correct now
>>>you have to consult your handy pocket race % guide
>>>provided to you by the government and mentally
>>>compute whether you've provided the appropriate
>>>number of opportunities to a certain racial group
>>>based upon their numerical representation in the
>>>population.

>> Provided they're not Muslims, obviously...

>Islam is a religion, not a racial group.

And the proportion of white Muslims is? Seems to me like faith has
become a backdoor by which race discrimination can be sneaked in.

Guy
--
May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington University