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| Re: How often do you get close to touching your "max"? In article <slrnce11ov.m11.me@serpentor.cobrala>, Preston Crawford <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote: >Putting "max" in quotes, because I know that the maximum heart rate as >figured by the various formulas is hard to go by. However, I'm curious >nonetheless. Today I was riding and accidentally touched 175 once and 181 >once. I felt a little crappy when I touched 181. Now, as I've mentioned >here before, I have a history of anxiety and panic attacks. I'm workig on >recovering from that, but when I touched 181 I got a little anxious. Now >what I'm wondering is... > >A) How often do other cyclists do what I did and accidentally (or >purposely) come close to what would be considered their max? I think mine, >by the traditional measure would be considered 197. I did a stress test >once where I got to 190. So that's what I base mine on. What do you mean by "crappy"? It seems unlikely that you were doing anything dangerous if you are a reasonably healthy person. My own observed max over the last year was 193, and I regularly ride up into the 180s without ill effect but probably don't hit that max number very often. If endurance riding is the goal then doing a lot of work at the max is not really necessary anyway. So you reaching 181 doesn't sound crazy to me although it might make your lungs hurt. >B) If you hit it do you generally consider that "dangerous" or just not >something that's advisable to do very often? When you start seeing spots and feel like you're going to pass out, or have trouble getting enough air, that would be the limit for a healthy person. Of course a person with an aneurism would be a different case. If you don't know how healthy you are, get your doctor to prescribe a stress EKG, preferably on a bike. |
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06-28-2004, 04:26 PM
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| Re: How often do you get close to touching your "max"? Turn your HRM off! Do you really need it? I used to cycle with an odometer/speedometer...delayed changing out a battery on it once, and never used it again. I've never tried a HRM and never will. Sure, maybe I don't get the maximum health benefit I could (although I'm not convinced this is the case), but I enjoy my rides a LOT more by looking at the scenery instead of that damn display. Let your body tell you when to slow down. "Preston Crawford" <me@prestoncrawford.com> wrote in message news:slrnce16av.m5b.me@serpentor.cobrala... > On 2004-06-28, Roger Zoul <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote: > > My theoretical max is 174 (i'm 46). I get 170 a lot while riding up hills as > > fast as I can. I seem to recover quickly have no problems with it. I > > haven't a clue what an anxiety or panic attack would do to max HR, or why > > having them would be a factor in hitting your max HR, but I'd suggest you > > don't invent stuff to worry about  > > I would agree. Problem is I only have so much control over my anxiety. > Sometimes it just gets the better of you, especially when you look down > and see 181 on your HRM. > > Preston |
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06-28-2004, 04:26 PM
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| Re: How often do you get close to touching your "max"? Turn your HRM off! Do you really need it? I used to cycle with an odometer/speedometer...delayed changing out a battery on it once, and never used it again. I've never tried a HRM and never will. Sure, maybe I don't get the maximum health benefit I could (although I'm not convinced this is the case), but I enjoy my rides a LOT more by looking at the scenery instead of that damn display. Let your body tell you when to slow down. "Preston Crawford" <me@prestoncrawford.com> wrote in message news:slrnce16av.m5b.me@serpentor.cobrala... > On 2004-06-28, Roger Zoul <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote: > > My theoretical max is 174 (i'm 46). I get 170 a lot while riding up hills as > > fast as I can. I seem to recover quickly have no problems with it. I > > haven't a clue what an anxiety or panic attack would do to max HR, or why > > having them would be a factor in hitting your max HR, but I'd suggest you > > don't invent stuff to worry about > > I would agree. Problem is I only have so much control over my anxiety. > Sometimes it just gets the better of you, especially when you look down > and see 181 on your HRM. > > Preston |
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06-28-2004, 04:26 PM
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| Re: How often do you get close to touching your "max"? Turn your HRM off! Do you really need it? I used to cycle with an odometer/speedometer...delayed changing out a battery on it once, and never used it again. I've never tried a HRM and never will. Sure, maybe I don't get the maximum health benefit I could (although I'm not convinced this is the case), but I enjoy my rides a LOT more by looking at the scenery instead of that damn display. Let your body tell you when to slow down. "Preston Crawford" <me@prestoncrawford.com> wrote in message news:slrnce16av.m5b.me@serpentor.cobrala... > On 2004-06-28, Roger Zoul <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote: > > My theoretical max is 174 (i'm 46). I get 170 a lot while riding up hills as > > fast as I can. I seem to recover quickly have no problems with it. I > > haven't a clue what an anxiety or panic attack would do to max HR, or why > > having them would be a factor in hitting your max HR, but I'd suggest you > > don't invent stuff to worry about > > I would agree. Problem is I only have so much control over my anxiety. > Sometimes it just gets the better of you, especially when you look down > and see 181 on your HRM. > > Preston |
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06-28-2004, 04:26 PM
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| Re: How often do you get close to touching your "max"? Turn your HRM off! Do you really need it? I used to cycle with an odometer/speedometer...delayed changing out a battery on it once, and never used it again. I've never tried a HRM and never will. Sure, maybe I don't get the maximum health benefit I could (although I'm not convinced this is the case), but I enjoy my rides a LOT more by looking at the scenery instead of that damn display. Let your body tell you when to slow down. "Preston Crawford" <me@prestoncrawford.com> wrote in message news:slrnce16av.m5b.me@serpentor.cobrala... > On 2004-06-28, Roger Zoul <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote: > > My theoretical max is 174 (i'm 46). I get 170 a lot while riding up hills as > > fast as I can. I seem to recover quickly have no problems with it. I > > haven't a clue what an anxiety or panic attack would do to max HR, or why > > having them would be a factor in hitting your max HR, but I'd suggest you > > don't invent stuff to worry about > > I would agree. Problem is I only have so much control over my anxiety. > Sometimes it just gets the better of you, especially when you look down > and see 181 on your HRM. > > Preston |
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06-28-2004, 04:26 PM
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| Re: How often do you get close to touching your "max"? Turn your HRM off! Do you really need it? I used to cycle with an odometer/speedometer...delayed changing out a battery on it once, and never used it again. I've never tried a HRM and never will. Sure, maybe I don't get the maximum health benefit I could (although I'm not convinced this is the case), but I enjoy my rides a LOT more by looking at the scenery instead of that damn display. Let your body tell you when to slow down. "Preston Crawford" <me@prestoncrawford.com> wrote in message news:slrnce16av.m5b.me@serpentor.cobrala... > On 2004-06-28, Roger Zoul <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote: > > My theoretical max is 174 (i'm 46). I get 170 a lot while riding up hills as > > fast as I can. I seem to recover quickly have no problems with it. I > > haven't a clue what an anxiety or panic attack would do to max HR, or why > > having them would be a factor in hitting your max HR, but I'd suggest you > > don't invent stuff to worry about > > I would agree. Problem is I only have so much control over my anxiety. > Sometimes it just gets the better of you, especially when you look down > and see 181 on your HRM. > > Preston |
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06-28-2004, 04:59 PM
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| Re: How often do you get close to touching your "max"? I am 55 so my max should be about 165??. I have seen 180+ on a hard burst of speed and didn't need a HRM to tell that. I just got off the bike and counted the thumps in my chest for 15 seconds on my watch and multiplied by 4. 2 minutes later I was down to 150 and after about 5 minutes it was down to about 110. I can only get there with an out of the saddle blast or by running laps at the college until I can barely walk upright, but either way 180 something seems to be it. An HRM might go a little higher but it just isn't in my budget right now. Whatever you can get to and not pass out, (or do a Jim Fixx) is a good thing. If it doesn't kill you it makes you stronger (we hope). Bill Baka BTW Does anybody know the story of that TDF level cyclist who had a heart attack before last years tour? I heard he was a friend of Lance. On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:31:59 -0400, Roger Zoul <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote: > My theoretical max is 174 (i'm 46). I get 170 a lot while riding up > hills as > fast as I can. I seem to recover quickly have no problems with it. I > haven't a clue what an anxiety or panic attack would do to max HR, or why > having them would be a factor in hitting your max HR, but I'd suggest you > don't invent stuff to worry about > > > Preston Crawford wrote: > || Putting "max" in quotes, because I know that the maximum heart rate > || as figured by the various formulas is hard to go by. However, I'm > || curious nonetheless. Today I was riding and accidentally touched 175 > || once and 181 once. I felt a little crappy when I touched 181. Now, > || as I've mentioned here before, I have a history of anxiety and panic > || attacks. I'm workig on recovering from that, but when I touched 181 > || I got a little anxious. Now what I'm wondering is... > || > || A) How often do other cyclists do what I did and accidentally (or > || purposely) come close to what would be considered their max? I think > || mine, by the traditional measure would be considered 197. I did a > || stress test once where I got to 190. So that's what I base mine on. > || > || B) If you hit it do you generally consider that "dangerous" or just > || not something that's advisable to do very often? > || > || This obviously isn't a theoretical question. I'm asking because I'm a > || little anxious after this morning. I feel fine now, but I'm just > || seeking a little reassurance that I needn't be worried. > || > || Preston > > -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] |
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06-28-2004, 04:59 PM
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| Re: How often do you get close to touching your "max"? I am 55 so my max should be about 165??. I have seen 180+ on a hard burst of speed and didn't need a HRM to tell that. I just got off the bike and counted the thumps in my chest for 15 seconds on my watch and multiplied by 4. 2 minutes later I was down to 150 and after about 5 minutes it was down to about 110. I can only get there with an out of the saddle blast or by running laps at the college until I can barely walk upright, but either way 180 something seems to be it. An HRM might go a little higher but it just isn't in my budget right now. Whatever you can get to and not pass out, (or do a Jim Fixx) is a good thing. If it doesn't kill you it makes you stronger (we hope). Bill Baka BTW Does anybody know the story of that TDF level cyclist who had a heart attack before last years tour? I heard he was a friend of Lance. On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:31:59 -0400, Roger Zoul <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote: > My theoretical max is 174 (i'm 46). I get 170 a lot while riding up > hills as > fast as I can. I seem to recover quickly have no problems with it. I > haven't a clue what an anxiety or panic attack would do to max HR, or why > having them would be a factor in hitting your max HR, but I'd suggest you > don't invent stuff to worry about > > > Preston Crawford wrote: > || Putting "max" in quotes, because I know that the maximum heart rate > || as figured by the various formulas is hard to go by. However, I'm > || curious nonetheless. Today I was riding and accidentally touched 175 > || once and 181 once. I felt a little crappy when I touched 181. Now, > || as I've mentioned here before, I have a history of anxiety and panic > || attacks. I'm workig on recovering from that, but when I touched 181 > || I got a little anxious. Now what I'm wondering is... > || > || A) How often do other cyclists do what I did and accidentally (or > || purposely) come close to what would be considered their max? I think > || mine, by the traditional measure would be considered 197. I did a > || stress test once where I got to 190. So that's what I base mine on. > || > || B) If you hit it do you generally consider that "dangerous" or just > || not something that's advisable to do very often? > || > || This obviously isn't a theoretical question. I'm asking because I'm a > || little anxious after this morning. I feel fine now, but I'm just > || seeking a little reassurance that I needn't be worried. > || > || Preston > > -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] |
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| Re: How often do you get close to touching your "max"? I am 55 so my max should be about 165??. I have seen 180+ on a hard burst of speed and didn't need a HRM to tell that. I just got off the bike and counted the thumps in my chest for 15 seconds on my watch and multiplied by 4. 2 minutes later I was down to 150 and after about 5 minutes it was down to about 110. I can only get there with an out of the saddle blast or by running laps at the college until I can barely walk upright, but either way 180 something seems to be it. An HRM might go a little higher but it just isn't in my budget right now. Whatever you can get to and not pass out, (or do a Jim Fixx) is a good thing. If it doesn't kill you it makes you stronger (we hope). Bill Baka BTW Does anybody know the story of that TDF level cyclist who had a heart attack before last years tour? I heard he was a friend of Lance. On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:31:59 -0400, Roger Zoul <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote: > My theoretical max is 174 (i'm 46). I get 170 a lot while riding up > hills as > fast as I can. I seem to recover quickly have no problems with it. I > haven't a clue what an anxiety or panic attack would do to max HR, or why > having them would be a factor in hitting your max HR, but I'd suggest you > don't invent stuff to worry about > > > Preston Crawford wrote: > || Putting "max" in quotes, because I know that the maximum heart rate > || as figured by the various formulas is hard to go by. However, I'm > || curious nonetheless. Today I was riding and accidentally touched 175 > || once and 181 once. I felt a little crappy when I touched 181. Now, > || as I've mentioned here before, I have a history of anxiety and panic > || attacks. I'm workig on recovering from that, but when I touched 181 > || I got a little anxious. Now what I'm wondering is... > || > || A) How often do other cyclists do what I did and accidentally (or > || purposely) come close to what would be considered their max? I think > || mine, by the traditional measure would be considered 197. I did a > || stress test once where I got to 190. So that's what I base mine on. > || > || B) If you hit it do you generally consider that "dangerous" or just > || not something that's advisable to do very often? > || > || This obviously isn't a theoretical question. I'm asking because I'm a > || little anxious after this morning. I feel fine now, but I'm just > || seeking a little reassurance that I needn't be worried. > || > || Preston > > -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] |
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| Re: How often do you get close to touching your "max"? I am 55 so my max should be about 165??. I have seen 180+ on a hard burst of speed and didn't need a HRM to tell that. I just got off the bike and counted the thumps in my chest for 15 seconds on my watch and multiplied by 4. 2 minutes later I was down to 150 and after about 5 minutes it was down to about 110. I can only get there with an out of the saddle blast or by running laps at the college until I can barely walk upright, but either way 180 something seems to be it. An HRM might go a little higher but it just isn't in my budget right now. Whatever you can get to and not pass out, (or do a Jim Fixx) is a good thing. If it doesn't kill you it makes you stronger (we hope). Bill Baka BTW Does anybody know the story of that TDF level cyclist who had a heart attack before last years tour? I heard he was a friend of Lance. On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 17:31:59 -0400, Roger Zoul <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote: > My theoretical max is 174 (i'm 46). I get 170 a lot while riding up > hills as > fast as I can. I seem to recover quickly have no problems with it. I > haven't a clue what an anxiety or panic attack would do to max HR, or why > having them would be a factor in hitting your max HR, but I'd suggest you > don't invent stuff to worry about > > > Preston Crawford wrote: > || Putting "max" in quotes, because I know that the maximum heart rate > || as figured by the various formulas is hard to go by. However, I'm > || curious nonetheless. Today I was riding and accidentally touched 175 > || once and 181 once. I felt a little crappy when I touched 181. Now, > || as I've mentioned here before, I have a history of anxiety and panic > || attacks. I'm workig on recovering from that, but when I touched 181 > || I got a little anxious. Now what I'm wondering is... > || > || A) How often do other cyclists do what I did and accidentally (or > || purposely) come close to what would be considered their max? I think > || mine, by the traditional measure would be considered 197. I did a > || stress test once where I got to 190. So that's what I base mine on. > || > || B) If you hit it do you generally consider that "dangerous" or just > || not something that's advisable to do very often? > || > || This obviously isn't a theoretical question. I'm asking because I'm a > || little anxious after this morning. I feel fine now, but I'm just > || seeking a little reassurance that I needn't be worried. > || > || Preston > > -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] |
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