Clinchers versus Tubulars - Page 3

07-02-2004, 02:51 AM

"Davey Crockett" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
>
> >
> > Do tubulars require special rims ?
> >
>
> Yes they do.
>

A true tubular aficionado would have said, "Tubulars use regular rims.
Everything else requires special rims."

07-02-2004, 12:25 PM

Rick Onanian <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:

> Was it necessary to cross-post to three newsfroups? One would
> suffice. Seems kinda trollish, actually.

Quite trollish, I thought.

> On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 21:12:34 -0400, "Churchill" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

<snip>

>>What is better for long distance road races ?! What are the Pro's
>>using these days ?!
>
> Whichever type you know how to repair is better for long distance
> road races, unless you're a pro, in which case it doesn't matter
> because you've got a guy following you with a vanload of extra
> pre-mounted and pre-inflated tires on wheels (and a few extra
> bikes).

Now that is one very excellent summation!

07-02-2004, 12:25 PM

Rick Onanian <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:

> Was it necessary to cross-post to three newsfroups? One would
> suffice. Seems kinda trollish, actually.

Quite trollish, I thought.

> On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 21:12:34 -0400, "Churchill" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

<snip>

>>What is better for long distance road races ?! What are the Pro's
>>using these days ?!
>
> Whichever type you know how to repair is better for long distance
> road races, unless you're a pro, in which case it doesn't matter
> because you've got a guy following you with a vanload of extra
> pre-mounted and pre-inflated tires on wheels (and a few extra
> bikes).

Now that is one very excellent summation!

07-02-2004, 12:25 PM

Rick Onanian <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:

> Was it necessary to cross-post to three newsfroups? One would
> suffice. Seems kinda trollish, actually.

Quite trollish, I thought.

> On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 21:12:34 -0400, "Churchill" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

<snip>

>>What is better for long distance road races ?! What are the Pro's
>>using these days ?!
>
> Whichever type you know how to repair is better for long distance
> road races, unless you're a pro, in which case it doesn't matter
> because you've got a guy following you with a vanload of extra
> pre-mounted and pre-inflated tires on wheels (and a few extra
> bikes).

Now that is one very excellent summation!

07-02-2004, 12:25 PM

Rick Onanian <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:

> Was it necessary to cross-post to three newsfroups? One would
> suffice. Seems kinda trollish, actually.

Quite trollish, I thought.

> On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 21:12:34 -0400, "Churchill" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

<snip>

>>What is better for long distance road races ?! What are the Pro's
>>using these days ?!
>
> Whichever type you know how to repair is better for long distance
> road races, unless you're a pro, in which case it doesn't matter
> because you've got a guy following you with a vanload of extra
> pre-mounted and pre-inflated tires on wheels (and a few extra
> bikes).

Now that is one very excellent summation!

07-02-2004, 12:25 PM

Rick Onanian <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:

> Was it necessary to cross-post to three newsfroups? One would
> suffice. Seems kinda trollish, actually.

Quite trollish, I thought.

> On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 21:12:34 -0400, "Churchill" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

<snip>

>>What is better for long distance road races ?! What are the Pro's
>>using these days ?!
>
> Whichever type you know how to repair is better for long distance
> road races, unless you're a pro, in which case it doesn't matter
> because you've got a guy following you with a vanload of extra
> pre-mounted and pre-inflated tires on wheels (and a few extra
> bikes).

Now that is one very excellent summation!

07-02-2004, 01:08 PM

On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 21:12:34 -0400, "Churchill" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>First issue, can someone explain to me what a clincher is and what a tubular
>is ?!

Tubular: A tire that is installed with glue, adhered to the face of
the rim; it is a unitary assembly which includes the tube inside the
sewn-shut tire. It is much more difficult to repair than a clincher.

Clincher: A tire whose sidewalls bear against flanges on the rim,
held in place by the tire's inflation pressure. The tire and tube are
easily separable since the tire is not sewn closed.

>Do I have clinchers because it has the lip on the tire that goes under the
>rim ?!

Yes.

>Do tubulars require special rims ?

Yes, although I have seen tubulars on a clincher 27" rim once. (The
question of "why" was not answered.)

>What is better for long distance road races ?!

Opinions vary. Some conditions favor clinchers, and a few favor
tubulars.

> What are the Pro's using
>these days ?!

They use what they feel will give them the best edge for the
conditions, unless they're racing for a team that is sponsored by a
tire maker...in which case, they use the tires they are given, and
presumably they learn to like them.

At the most recent MD150, a spectator familiar with the difference
reported to me that the vast majority of participants were riding
clinchers. This race is not typical, however, and should not be used
as a basis for any conclusions overall.
--
Typoes are a feature, not a bug.
Some gardening required to reply via email.
Surrealism is a pectinated ranzel.

07-02-2004, 01:08 PM

On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 21:12:34 -0400, "Churchill" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>First issue, can someone explain to me what a clincher is and what a tubular
>is ?!

Tubular: A tire that is installed with glue, adhered to the face of
the rim; it is a unitary assembly which includes the tube inside the
sewn-shut tire. It is much more difficult to repair than a clincher.

Clincher: A tire whose sidewalls bear against flanges on the rim,
held in place by the tire's inflation pressure. The tire and tube are
easily separable since the tire is not sewn closed.

>Do I have clinchers because it has the lip on the tire that goes under the
>rim ?!

Yes.

>Do tubulars require special rims ?

Yes, although I have seen tubulars on a clincher 27" rim once. (The
question of "why" was not answered.)

>What is better for long distance road races ?!

Opinions vary. Some conditions favor clinchers, and a few favor
tubulars.

> What are the Pro's using
>these days ?!

They use what they feel will give them the best edge for the
conditions, unless they're racing for a team that is sponsored by a
tire maker...in which case, they use the tires they are given, and
presumably they learn to like them.

At the most recent MD150, a spectator familiar with the difference
reported to me that the vast majority of participants were riding
clinchers. This race is not typical, however, and should not be used
as a basis for any conclusions overall.
--
Typoes are a feature, not a bug.
Some gardening required to reply via email.
Surrealism is a pectinated ranzel.

07-02-2004, 01:08 PM

On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 21:12:34 -0400, "Churchill" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>First issue, can someone explain to me what a clincher is and what a tubular
>is ?!

Tubular: A tire that is installed with glue, adhered to the face of
the rim; it is a unitary assembly which includes the tube inside the
sewn-shut tire. It is much more difficult to repair than a clincher.

Clincher: A tire whose sidewalls bear against flanges on the rim,
held in place by the tire's inflation pressure. The tire and tube are
easily separable since the tire is not sewn closed.

>Do I have clinchers because it has the lip on the tire that goes under the
>rim ?!

Yes.

>Do tubulars require special rims ?

Yes, although I have seen tubulars on a clincher 27" rim once. (The
question of "why" was not answered.)

>What is better for long distance road races ?!

Opinions vary. Some conditions favor clinchers, and a few favor
tubulars.

> What are the Pro's using
>these days ?!

They use what they feel will give them the best edge for the
conditions, unless they're racing for a team that is sponsored by a
tire maker...in which case, they use the tires they are given, and
presumably they learn to like them.

At the most recent MD150, a spectator familiar with the difference
reported to me that the vast majority of participants were riding
clinchers. This race is not typical, however, and should not be used
as a basis for any conclusions overall.
--
Typoes are a feature, not a bug.
Some gardening required to reply via email.
Surrealism is a pectinated ranzel.

07-02-2004, 01:08 PM

On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 21:12:34 -0400, "Churchill" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>First issue, can someone explain to me what a clincher is and what a tubular
>is ?!

Tubular: A tire that is installed with glue, adhered to the face of
the rim; it is a unitary assembly which includes the tube inside the
sewn-shut tire. It is much more difficult to repair than a clincher.

Clincher: A tire whose sidewalls bear against flanges on the rim,
held in place by the tire's inflation pressure. The tire and tube are
easily separable since the tire is not sewn closed.

>Do I have clinchers because it has the lip on the tire that goes under the
>rim ?!

Yes.

>Do tubulars require special rims ?

Yes, although I have seen tubulars on a clincher 27" rim once. (The
question of "why" was not answered.)

>What is better for long distance road races ?!

Opinions vary. Some conditions favor clinchers, and a few favor
tubulars.

> What are the Pro's using
>these days ?!

They use what they feel will give them the best edge for the
conditions, unless they're racing for a team that is sponsored by a
tire maker...in which case, they use the tires they are given, and
presumably they learn to like them.

At the most recent MD150, a spectator familiar with the difference
reported to me that the vast majority of participants were riding
clinchers. This race is not typical, however, and should not be used
as a basis for any conclusions overall.
--
Typoes are a feature, not a bug.
Some gardening required to reply via email.
Surrealism is a pectinated ranzel.