Clinchers versus Tubulars - Page 8 - Cycling Mob: Road Cycling, Mountain Biking and More

07-03-2004, 04:29 PM

Rick Onanian writes:

>> Tubular tires, as we call them today were the only tires for cars
>> and bicycles in the early days of pneumatic tires and were just
>> called tires then. What sets them aside is that [today] tires have
>> an open casing that is held between the beads of the rim that is
>> also (U-shaped). This allows access to the tube in the event of a
>> puncture while the old tubulars could only be repaired by stuffing
>> rubber bands and glue into the hole.

> This is unclear. Did you mean "Clincher tires, as we call them
> today..."? Tubulars don't have an open casing held between U-shaped
> rim beads...

Tubular tires, as we call them today, were the only tires for cars and
bicycles in the early days of pneumatic tires, and were just called
tires then. A bit of context may have been lost in the above excerpt.

That was before the clincher was introduced. eg. All tires were
tubulars, as you can see on the web site Carl Fogel offered.

Jobst Brandt
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07-03-2004, 05:54 PM

On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 00:29:15 GMT, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
wrote:

>Tubular tires, as we call them today, were the only tires for cars and
>bicycles in the early days of pneumatic tires, and were just called
>tires then. A bit of context may have been lost in the above excerpt.
>
>That was before the clincher was introduced. eg. All tires were
>tubulars, as you can see on the web site Carl Fogel offered.
>

Actually, in reading the material I had a little more closely, I
noticed that by 1908 there was a form of clincher on the market for
bikes; see the G&J Detachable Tire on page 170 of the 1908 Sears
catalog, pictured here:

http://www.instantattitudes.com/imag...s1908pg170.jpg

(It's a big image, about 400K)
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07-03-2004, 05:54 PM

On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 00:29:15 GMT, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
wrote:

>Tubular tires, as we call them today, were the only tires for cars and
>bicycles in the early days of pneumatic tires, and were just called
>tires then. A bit of context may have been lost in the above excerpt.
>
>That was before the clincher was introduced. eg. All tires were
>tubulars, as you can see on the web site Carl Fogel offered.
>

Actually, in reading the material I had a little more closely, I
noticed that by 1908 there was a form of clincher on the market for
bikes; see the G&J Detachable Tire on page 170 of the 1908 Sears
catalog, pictured here:

http://www.instantattitudes.com/imag...s1908pg170.jpg

(It's a big image, about 400K)
--
Typoes are a feature, not a bug.
Some gardening required to reply via email.
Surrealism is a pectinated ranzel.

07-03-2004, 05:54 PM

On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 00:29:15 GMT, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
wrote:

>Tubular tires, as we call them today, were the only tires for cars and
>bicycles in the early days of pneumatic tires, and were just called
>tires then. A bit of context may have been lost in the above excerpt.
>
>That was before the clincher was introduced. eg. All tires were
>tubulars, as you can see on the web site Carl Fogel offered.
>

Actually, in reading the material I had a little more closely, I
noticed that by 1908 there was a form of clincher on the market for
bikes; see the G&J Detachable Tire on page 170 of the 1908 Sears
catalog, pictured here:

http://www.instantattitudes.com/imag...s1908pg170.jpg

(It's a big image, about 400K)
--
Typoes are a feature, not a bug.
Some gardening required to reply via email.
Surrealism is a pectinated ranzel.

07-03-2004, 05:54 PM

On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 00:29:15 GMT, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
wrote:

>Tubular tires, as we call them today, were the only tires for cars and
>bicycles in the early days of pneumatic tires, and were just called
>tires then. A bit of context may have been lost in the above excerpt.
>
>That was before the clincher was introduced. eg. All tires were
>tubulars, as you can see on the web site Carl Fogel offered.
>

Actually, in reading the material I had a little more closely, I
noticed that by 1908 there was a form of clincher on the market for
bikes; see the G&J Detachable Tire on page 170 of the 1908 Sears
catalog, pictured here:

http://www.instantattitudes.com/imag...s1908pg170.jpg

(It's a big image, about 400K)
--
Typoes are a feature, not a bug.
Some gardening required to reply via email.
Surrealism is a pectinated ranzel.

07-03-2004, 05:54 PM

On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 00:29:15 GMT, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
wrote:

>Tubular tires, as we call them today, were the only tires for cars and
>bicycles in the early days of pneumatic tires, and were just called
>tires then. A bit of context may have been lost in the above excerpt.
>
>That was before the clincher was introduced. eg. All tires were
>tubulars, as you can see on the web site Carl Fogel offered.
>

Actually, in reading the material I had a little more closely, I
noticed that by 1908 there was a form of clincher on the market for
bikes; see the G&J Detachable Tire on page 170 of the 1908 Sears
catalog, pictured here:

http://www.instantattitudes.com/imag...s1908pg170.jpg

(It's a big image, about 400K)
--
Typoes are a feature, not a bug.
Some gardening required to reply via email.
Surrealism is a pectinated ranzel.

07-04-2004, 08:01 AM

"Werehatrack" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 21:12:34 -0400, "Churchill" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
> Yes, although I have seen tubulars on a clincher 27" rim once. (The
> question of "why" was not answered.)

I've done that once myself. The answer was that my spare (the tubular) was
the only way to get the poor bloke whose clincher shredded (bad cut which
ruined the tire casing) home. It worked remarkably well. Quite an abuse of
a nice Clement Criterium Seta tire, but no harm was done.

- Skip

07-04-2004, 08:01 AM

"Werehatrack" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 21:12:34 -0400, "Churchill" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
> Yes, although I have seen tubulars on a clincher 27" rim once. (The
> question of "why" was not answered.)

I've done that once myself. The answer was that my spare (the tubular) was
the only way to get the poor bloke whose clincher shredded (bad cut which
ruined the tire casing) home. It worked remarkably well. Quite an abuse of
a nice Clement Criterium Seta tire, but no harm was done.

- Skip

07-04-2004, 08:01 AM

"Werehatrack" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 21:12:34 -0400, "Churchill" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
> Yes, although I have seen tubulars on a clincher 27" rim once. (The
> question of "why" was not answered.)

I've done that once myself. The answer was that my spare (the tubular) was
the only way to get the poor bloke whose clincher shredded (bad cut which
ruined the tire casing) home. It worked remarkably well. Quite an abuse of
a nice Clement Criterium Seta tire, but no harm was done.

- Skip

07-04-2004, 08:01 AM

"Werehatrack" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 21:12:34 -0400, "Churchill" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
> Yes, although I have seen tubulars on a clincher 27" rim once. (The
> question of "why" was not answered.)

I've done that once myself. The answer was that my spare (the tubular) was
the only way to get the poor bloke whose clincher shredded (bad cut which
ruined the tire casing) home. It worked remarkably well. Quite an abuse of
a nice Clement Criterium Seta tire, but no harm was done.

- Skip