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07-03-2004, 12:57 PM

Churchill <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
> What is the percentage cut-off point for being booted out of the Tour de
> France ?!

> Presumably, with the aid of a physician a rider could ensure their EPO is
> just under the cut-off point and take advantage of doping.

You are confusing EPO, a chemical, and hematocrit, a measure
of red blood cell concentration. There are both an EPO test and
a hematocrit cut-off point, 50% for men. If you want more
information, search the groups.google.com archives.

Please stop crossposting all of your questions between r.b.misc,
racing, and tech. Choose the most appropriate newsgroup and
post there.

07-03-2004, 01:13 PM

"Andy Coggan" <acoggan@earthlink.net> writes:

> "Churchill" <yes@yes.com> wrote in message
> news:2VwFc.197074$207.2187411@news20.bellglobal.co m...
>> What is the percentage cut-off point for being booted out of the
>> Tour de France ?!
>>
>> Presumably, with the aid of a physician a rider could ensure their
>> EPO is just under the cut-off point and take advantage of doping.
>>
>> Comments welcome -

>
> My comment is that you obviously don't know how testing for
> exogenous EPO is performed.

Well, keep in mind that Churchill seems to be a troll. But you are
right, there are methods for testing for a high likelihood of EPO
doping, although that does not appear to be foolproof. And Churchill
does not seem to know this, even though it's been quite publicized.

07-03-2004, 01:13 PM

"Andy Coggan" <acoggan@earthlink.net> writes:

> "Churchill" <yes@yes.com> wrote in message
> news:2VwFc.197074$207.2187411@news20.bellglobal.co m...
>> What is the percentage cut-off point for being booted out of the
>> Tour de France ?!
>>
>> Presumably, with the aid of a physician a rider could ensure their
>> EPO is just under the cut-off point and take advantage of doping.
>>
>> Comments welcome -

>
> My comment is that you obviously don't know how testing for
> exogenous EPO is performed.

Well, keep in mind that Churchill seems to be a troll. But you are
right, there are methods for testing for a high likelihood of EPO
doping, although that does not appear to be foolproof. And Churchill
does not seem to know this, even though it's been quite publicized.

07-03-2004, 01:13 PM

"Andy Coggan" <acoggan@earthlink.net> writes:

> "Churchill" <yes@yes.com> wrote in message
> news:2VwFc.197074$207.2187411@news20.bellglobal.co m...
>> What is the percentage cut-off point for being booted out of the
>> Tour de France ?!
>>
>> Presumably, with the aid of a physician a rider could ensure their
>> EPO is just under the cut-off point and take advantage of doping.
>>
>> Comments welcome -

>
> My comment is that you obviously don't know how testing for
> exogenous EPO is performed.

Well, keep in mind that Churchill seems to be a troll. But you are
right, there are methods for testing for a high likelihood of EPO
doping, although that does not appear to be foolproof. And Churchill
does not seem to know this, even though it's been quite publicized.

07-03-2004, 01:13 PM

"Andy Coggan" <acoggan@earthlink.net> writes:

> "Churchill" <yes@yes.com> wrote in message
> news:2VwFc.197074$207.2187411@news20.bellglobal.co m...
>> What is the percentage cut-off point for being booted out of the
>> Tour de France ?!
>>
>> Presumably, with the aid of a physician a rider could ensure their
>> EPO is just under the cut-off point and take advantage of doping.
>>
>> Comments welcome -

>
> My comment is that you obviously don't know how testing for
> exogenous EPO is performed.

Well, keep in mind that Churchill seems to be a troll. But you are
right, there are methods for testing for a high likelihood of EPO
doping, although that does not appear to be foolproof. And Churchill
does not seem to know this, even though it's been quite publicized.

07-03-2004, 01:13 PM

"Andy Coggan" <acoggan@earthlink.net> writes:

> "Churchill" <yes@yes.com> wrote in message
> news:2VwFc.197074$207.2187411@news20.bellglobal.co m...
>> What is the percentage cut-off point for being booted out of the
>> Tour de France ?!
>>
>> Presumably, with the aid of a physician a rider could ensure their
>> EPO is just under the cut-off point and take advantage of doping.
>>
>> Comments welcome -

>
> My comment is that you obviously don't know how testing for
> exogenous EPO is performed.

Well, keep in mind that Churchill seems to be a troll. But you are
right, there are methods for testing for a high likelihood of EPO
doping, although that does not appear to be foolproof. And Churchill
does not seem to know this, even though it's been quite publicized.