switching from a trike to an upright? - Page 7

07-03-2004, 07:38 PM

On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 02:51:09 GMT, "Lorenzo L. Love"
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>>
>
>The most affordable real recumbent is probably the Sun EZ1 at $525.
>See [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

That's pretty good...for a recumbent.

Considering that I can pick up an upright of reasonable quality for
close to nothing (my little brother's Follis. granted, a work in
progress), I'd call that a high barrier to entry, especially for the
new cyclist...

-Luigi

07-03-2004, 08:04 PM

I ordered an EZ-1 through my LBS, paid 504 less 10 discount, got it at
the end of March, have rode 1300 miles on it. Last Feburary, I rode a
touring bike for 18 miles, my rear was sore for 2-3 days. Thursday June
17 I rode my Ez-1 on vacation from Anaheim to Griffith Park, Observatory
was closed but ate at the golf course club house, down to La Bareta Tar
Pits, then down to the Santa Monica Pier for dinner. Rode the beach
bike path down to Marina Del Ray, took the roads around that, then back
on the bike path to Rolling Hills. Headed East into Long Beach and back
to the motel. 125 miles 14 hours pedaling 20 hours elapsed.

Luigi de Guzman wrote:
>
> On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 02:51:09 GMT, "Lorenzo L. Love"
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
> >>
> >
> >The most affordable real recumbent is probably the Sun EZ1 at $525.
> >See [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>
> That's pretty good...for a recumbent.
>
> Considering that I can pick up an upright of reasonable quality for
> close to nothing (my little brother's Follis. granted, a work in
> progress), I'd call that a high barrier to entry, especially for the
> new cyclist...
>
> -Luigi

07-03-2004, 08:04 PM

I ordered an EZ-1 through my LBS, paid 504 less 10 discount, got it at
the end of March, have rode 1300 miles on it. Last Feburary, I rode a
touring bike for 18 miles, my rear was sore for 2-3 days. Thursday June
17 I rode my Ez-1 on vacation from Anaheim to Griffith Park, Observatory
was closed but ate at the golf course club house, down to La Bareta Tar
Pits, then down to the Santa Monica Pier for dinner. Rode the beach
bike path down to Marina Del Ray, took the roads around that, then back
on the bike path to Rolling Hills. Headed East into Long Beach and back
to the motel. 125 miles 14 hours pedaling 20 hours elapsed.

Luigi de Guzman wrote:
>
> On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 02:51:09 GMT, "Lorenzo L. Love"
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
> >>
> >
> >The most affordable real recumbent is probably the Sun EZ1 at $525.
> >See [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>
> That's pretty good...for a recumbent.
>
> Considering that I can pick up an upright of reasonable quality for
> close to nothing (my little brother's Follis. granted, a work in
> progress), I'd call that a high barrier to entry, especially for the
> new cyclist...
>
> -Luigi

07-03-2004, 08:04 PM

I ordered an EZ-1 through my LBS, paid 504 less 10 discount, got it at
the end of March, have rode 1300 miles on it. Last Feburary, I rode a
touring bike for 18 miles, my rear was sore for 2-3 days. Thursday June
17 I rode my Ez-1 on vacation from Anaheim to Griffith Park, Observatory
was closed but ate at the golf course club house, down to La Bareta Tar
Pits, then down to the Santa Monica Pier for dinner. Rode the beach
bike path down to Marina Del Ray, took the roads around that, then back
on the bike path to Rolling Hills. Headed East into Long Beach and back
to the motel. 125 miles 14 hours pedaling 20 hours elapsed.

Luigi de Guzman wrote:
>
> On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 02:51:09 GMT, "Lorenzo L. Love"
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
> >>
> >
> >The most affordable real recumbent is probably the Sun EZ1 at $525.
> >See [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>
> That's pretty good...for a recumbent.
>
> Considering that I can pick up an upright of reasonable quality for
> close to nothing (my little brother's Follis. granted, a work in
> progress), I'd call that a high barrier to entry, especially for the
> new cyclist...
>
> -Luigi

07-03-2004, 08:04 PM

I ordered an EZ-1 through my LBS, paid 504 less 10 discount, got it at
the end of March, have rode 1300 miles on it. Last Feburary, I rode a
touring bike for 18 miles, my rear was sore for 2-3 days. Thursday June
17 I rode my Ez-1 on vacation from Anaheim to Griffith Park, Observatory
was closed but ate at the golf course club house, down to La Bareta Tar
Pits, then down to the Santa Monica Pier for dinner. Rode the beach
bike path down to Marina Del Ray, took the roads around that, then back
on the bike path to Rolling Hills. Headed East into Long Beach and back
to the motel. 125 miles 14 hours pedaling 20 hours elapsed.

Luigi de Guzman wrote:
>
> On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 02:51:09 GMT, "Lorenzo L. Love"
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
> >>
> >
> >The most affordable real recumbent is probably the Sun EZ1 at $525.
> >See [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>
> That's pretty good...for a recumbent.
>
> Considering that I can pick up an upright of reasonable quality for
> close to nothing (my little brother's Follis. granted, a work in
> progress), I'd call that a high barrier to entry, especially for the
> new cyclist...
>
> -Luigi

07-03-2004, 08:04 PM

I ordered an EZ-1 through my LBS, paid 504 less 10 discount, got it at
the end of March, have rode 1300 miles on it. Last Feburary, I rode a
touring bike for 18 miles, my rear was sore for 2-3 days. Thursday June
17 I rode my Ez-1 on vacation from Anaheim to Griffith Park, Observatory
was closed but ate at the golf course club house, down to La Bareta Tar
Pits, then down to the Santa Monica Pier for dinner. Rode the beach
bike path down to Marina Del Ray, took the roads around that, then back
on the bike path to Rolling Hills. Headed East into Long Beach and back
to the motel. 125 miles 14 hours pedaling 20 hours elapsed.

Luigi de Guzman wrote:
>
> On Sun, 04 Jul 2004 02:51:09 GMT, "Lorenzo L. Love"
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
> >>
> >
> >The most affordable real recumbent is probably the Sun EZ1 at $525.
> >See [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>
> That's pretty good...for a recumbent.
>
> Considering that I can pick up an upright of reasonable quality for
> close to nothing (my little brother's Follis. granted, a work in
> progress), I'd call that a high barrier to entry, especially for the
> new cyclist...
>
> -Luigi

07-04-2004, 06:22 AM

On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 23:04:08 -0500, Mike Schwab <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
wrote:

>I ordered an EZ-1 through my LBS, paid 504 less 10 discount,

Still doesn't compete with cheap or free, my friend.

And I'm not even talking about horrid 50 dollar X*Mart bikes; there's
an immense pool of old bikes out there of reasonable quality that
people merely *give* away.

Note that I'm not disputing any of the *technical* merits of the
recumbent bicycle--far from it. I'm merely suggesting that, for
someone who's new to cycling and who doesn't have much (or any!)
money, the price of even the cheapest recumbent is a significant
barrier to entry.

You will of course argue that the most expensive bike is the one you
don't ride--which is also true. But for someone who isn't *yet*
hooked on cycling as an activity, five hundred dollars may be a bit
too much to ask, especially where decent-quality uprights can be had
for half that price, and reasonable quality used bikes had for an even
smaller fraction.

-Luigi

07-04-2004, 06:22 AM

On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 23:04:08 -0500, Mike Schwab <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
wrote:

>I ordered an EZ-1 through my LBS, paid 504 less 10 discount,

Still doesn't compete with cheap or free, my friend.

And I'm not even talking about horrid 50 dollar X*Mart bikes; there's
an immense pool of old bikes out there of reasonable quality that
people merely *give* away.

Note that I'm not disputing any of the *technical* merits of the
recumbent bicycle--far from it. I'm merely suggesting that, for
someone who's new to cycling and who doesn't have much (or any!)
money, the price of even the cheapest recumbent is a significant
barrier to entry.

You will of course argue that the most expensive bike is the one you
don't ride--which is also true. But for someone who isn't *yet*
hooked on cycling as an activity, five hundred dollars may be a bit
too much to ask, especially where decent-quality uprights can be had
for half that price, and reasonable quality used bikes had for an even
smaller fraction.

-Luigi

07-04-2004, 06:22 AM

On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 23:04:08 -0500, Mike Schwab <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
wrote:

>I ordered an EZ-1 through my LBS, paid 504 less 10 discount,

Still doesn't compete with cheap or free, my friend.

And I'm not even talking about horrid 50 dollar X*Mart bikes; there's
an immense pool of old bikes out there of reasonable quality that
people merely *give* away.

Note that I'm not disputing any of the *technical* merits of the
recumbent bicycle--far from it. I'm merely suggesting that, for
someone who's new to cycling and who doesn't have much (or any!)
money, the price of even the cheapest recumbent is a significant
barrier to entry.

You will of course argue that the most expensive bike is the one you
don't ride--which is also true. But for someone who isn't *yet*
hooked on cycling as an activity, five hundred dollars may be a bit
too much to ask, especially where decent-quality uprights can be had
for half that price, and reasonable quality used bikes had for an even
smaller fraction.

-Luigi

07-04-2004, 06:22 AM

On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 23:04:08 -0500, Mike Schwab <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
wrote:

>I ordered an EZ-1 through my LBS, paid 504 less 10 discount,

Still doesn't compete with cheap or free, my friend.

And I'm not even talking about horrid 50 dollar X*Mart bikes; there's
an immense pool of old bikes out there of reasonable quality that
people merely *give* away.

Note that I'm not disputing any of the *technical* merits of the
recumbent bicycle--far from it. I'm merely suggesting that, for
someone who's new to cycling and who doesn't have much (or any!)
money, the price of even the cheapest recumbent is a significant
barrier to entry.

You will of course argue that the most expensive bike is the one you
don't ride--which is also true. But for someone who isn't *yet*
hooked on cycling as an activity, five hundred dollars may be a bit
too much to ask, especially where decent-quality uprights can be had
for half that price, and reasonable quality used bikes had for an even
smaller fraction.

-Luigi