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Old 07-12-2004, 10:04 AM   #231 (permalink)
Muskie
 
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Re: dizzy when riding

Dwayne,

Well this is excellent news! It sounds like things are going better. Of
course, the temperature being a bit lower certainly helps. If all of
this worked, then I think you should continue to follow the formula. I
doubt that the potassium made any difference. Likely keeping hydrated
did make a difference. Also, the fact that you had to go to the bathroom
a lot is good too. It means that your body is well-hydrated.
Perhaps your first dizzying ride was a little more intense than what
you were used to. If you weren't used to riding this hard, the body can
sometimes go into a sort of shock when it's put under heavy physical
activity.
Keep us updated.

- Muskie

Dwayne wrote:
> Badger_South <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message news:<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>. ..
>
>>On 10 Jul 2004 07:43:20 GMT, Ben A Gozar <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Below is the way I meant my note to be read. It was an estimation of
>>>course, but we men aren't exactly known to be running to the doctor at the
>>>rate of women. The sad news is once we pass forty things go wrong and we
>>>men tend to die off rather suddenly. Two of my friends went in for a check
>>>up only for the doctors to have bp readings on both of them of almost
>>>165/xxx. They both went in for reasons not associated with hypertension. I
>>>visited my doctor for completely different problems I could no longer
>>>ignore and I found out I am not 16 any more. In the United States at least,
>>>I think the Doctor may be closer to correct, than farther from it.
>>>
>>>At any rate I do not have an informed opinion on whether it is a true
>>>statement or not, I was just passing on what was told to me.
>>>
>>>
>>>>When I read it, I gave it a totally different interpretation than
>>>>either of the above: For every man that he sees in the office, he
>>>>estimates there are 15 others with serious health problems who are not
>>>>coming in, and could be at serious risk.

>>
>>And I'm saying that if you are active, have no obvious risk, such as
>>smoking, overweight, alcoholic, and soforth that there's no reason to be
>>this paranoid. Of course if you walk down the street you'll see lots of
>>examples of couch potatoes walking out of bars, chain smoking. I'd say 90%
>>of these guys are at significant risk. But without doing a physical, guess
>>what? I'd be pulling that estimation out of my ass.
>>
>>Certain risk factors might be predictable based on your genetics - many
>>black men have high blood pressure, and for them, over 40, go get that
>>checked. Otherwise, to quote that kind of figure to any particular patient
>>is a scare tactic, and meaningless. You pretty much know your risk factors,
>>b/c you know how you're abusing your body. But among a sub group, such as
>>bikers who have been doing it for 10 years and are lean and fit and active
>>and don't overdo their vices, would that be the case? My dad is 81, active
>>all his life, and has smoked a pack of unfiltered cigs a day since he was
>>25, and still going strong - go figure. In my case, go look at my pic at 50
>>and tell me what kind of risk factors I have.
>>
>>[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>>
>>So, IMO, for your doc to say that is meaningless, irresponsible (for making
>>you paranoid, if it did) and he could have said 9 out of 10 or 1 out of 100
>>and both been right, depending on demographic.
>>
>>I'll tell you what's dangerous, though. Go into any hospital to have a
>>minor procedure and your chances of never coming out again are quite high,
>>due to nosocomial infection (hospital antibiotic resistant bugs), surgical
>>mistakes, and other misadventures. So I could say doctors - stay the freak
>>away from them, b/c you could be misdiagnosed or they could just have seen
>>a patient with resistant strep and forgot to wash his hands. Did your doc
>>wash his hands before he left your exam room? He didn't? OMG! ;-)
>>
>>Go check out some sites that talk about 'what they don't tell you about
>>medical exams'. Do you know that the devices they use for endoscopy and
>>rectal exams can not be properly sterilized? THat's right, the chances are
>>good that the last patient they scoped has left a little bit of blood or
>>body fluid inside the device and now it's inside you. There's no known way
>>to sterilize against prion infections (mad cow), so if you have an
>>operation, you might be innoculated with CJD and not know it. What if
>>you're having an appendectomy and they nick an artery and you have to get
>>blood? Or the anesthesiologist gives you the wrong gas (happened to my dad
>>and they tried to cover it up - he actually went into cardiac arrest b/c
>>they gave him 5 times the dose needed by mistake when he had a kidney stone
>>removed). See, it works both ways. ;-p
>>
>>OK, sorry for the rant....
>>
>>-B

>
>
> Ok here's what happened this morning. I got up at 7:20 and showered
> and got dressed and the entire time I was drinking bottles of filtered
> water, about 3 bottles full, plus. Then I ate a peanut butter granola
> bar and a small amount of peanut butter for sustained energy. I
> checked my BP and it was 129/92. I checked my blood sugar count with
> my wife's kit and it was 102, before I ate anything (fasting). She
> told me that was a fairly good reading, diabetes would be 130 - 200+,
> while fasting all night. then I took one 99 mg potassium tablet and 3
> cal/mag/zinc = 1000 mg total, tablets. Then, I went riding for about
> 2 hours and rode about 22 miles and the temp was about 77 with about
> 80 % humid, the temp was normal but the humid. was a little less than
> usual here. Everything went fine. I didn't get a bit sick. I even
> pushed myself to do more and had no problems. Even when my buddies
> wanted to turn back before it got too hot, I wanted to go further but
> we turned back, probably a good idea anyway, I thought. I rode all
> the way back with no problems. then as soon as I got in the door at
> home, I check my BP and it was 116/69. My heart rate was 98 BPM. I
> felt perfectly fine and still full of energy. What gives? Was it the
> potassium? WAs it the 3 bottles full of water before I rode? Oh one
> more thing, during the ride I suddenly had to "go". My bladder was
> full. So I stopped and did my business and went on. Then when I got
> home I had to go again. That doesn't usually happen.


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