Re: Hinault doubts Armstrong can win

07-12-2004, 12:55 PM

"brian roth" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
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>
>
> Hinault doubts Armstrong can win
>
> Saturday's stage rolled past the birthplace of five-time Tour champion
Bernard
> Hinault, but the last Frenchman to win the Tour doubts Armstrong will
score the
> elusive sixth win.
>
> "He has not looked that good this year, and everyone saw how he struggled
in
> the mountains last year, so I'd say his chances of winning are only 50-50
at
> best," Hinault said.
>
> Hinault presents prizes on the podium during the Tour. After Armstrong's
fifth
> victory last year, Hinault shook Armstrong's hand and said, "Welcome to
the
> club."

So far, Lance has rode the perfect race. Barring a crash or illness he
should win !!

07-12-2004, 02:55 PM

"Churchill" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:

> "brian roth" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> news:ebf01652.0407120544.15754b08@posting.google.c om...
>> found at [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>>
>> Hinault doubts Armstrong can win
>>
>> Saturday's stage rolled past the birthplace of five-time Tour
>> champion Bernard Hinault, but the last Frenchman to win the Tour
>> doubts Armstrong will score the elusive sixth win.
>>
>> "He has not looked that good this year, and everyone saw how he
>> struggled in the mountains last year, so I'd say his chances of
>> winning are only 50-50 at best," Hinault said.

Never mind that Armstrong posted his fastest-ever ascent of Mont
Ventoux this year in the Dauphine-Libere. Or that Armstrong did "OK"
in the mountains in the 2003 Tour- taking the Maillot Jaune on
Alpe-D'Huez, winning on Luz Ardiden by :40 over Mayo and Ullrich after
crashing... I guess "vulnerable" = "didn't win every mountain stage."

>> Hinault presents prizes on the podium during the Tour. After
>> Armstrong's fifth victory last year, Hinault shook Armstrong's hand
>> and said, "Welcome to the club."
>
> So far, Lance has rode the perfect race. Barring a crash or illness
> he should win !!

Well, you have to take Hinault with a grain of salt. He doesn't like
to get beaten, even if he's not racing any more. But Hinault has a
point- the odds of getting through 6 Tours without a sick day, a
serious crash, or just "un jour sans" are tough. Armstrong is facing
a strong field of contenders this year, perhaps more so than in
previous years. The last week of the Tour is going to be *very*
intersting, I think.

07-12-2004, 02:55 PM

"Churchill" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:

> "brian roth" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> news:ebf01652.0407120544.15754b08@posting.google.c om...
>> found at [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>>
>> Hinault doubts Armstrong can win
>>
>> Saturday's stage rolled past the birthplace of five-time Tour
>> champion Bernard Hinault, but the last Frenchman to win the Tour
>> doubts Armstrong will score the elusive sixth win.
>>
>> "He has not looked that good this year, and everyone saw how he
>> struggled in the mountains last year, so I'd say his chances of
>> winning are only 50-50 at best," Hinault said.

Never mind that Armstrong posted his fastest-ever ascent of Mont
Ventoux this year in the Dauphine-Libere. Or that Armstrong did "OK"
in the mountains in the 2003 Tour- taking the Maillot Jaune on
Alpe-D'Huez, winning on Luz Ardiden by :40 over Mayo and Ullrich after
crashing... I guess "vulnerable" = "didn't win every mountain stage."

>> Hinault presents prizes on the podium during the Tour. After
>> Armstrong's fifth victory last year, Hinault shook Armstrong's hand
>> and said, "Welcome to the club."
>
> So far, Lance has rode the perfect race. Barring a crash or illness
> he should win !!

Well, you have to take Hinault with a grain of salt. He doesn't like
to get beaten, even if he's not racing any more. But Hinault has a
point- the odds of getting through 6 Tours without a sick day, a
serious crash, or just "un jour sans" are tough. Armstrong is facing
a strong field of contenders this year, perhaps more so than in
previous years. The last week of the Tour is going to be *very*
intersting, I think.

07-12-2004, 02:55 PM

"Churchill" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:

> "brian roth" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> news:ebf01652.0407120544.15754b08@posting.google.c om...
>> found at [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>>
>> Hinault doubts Armstrong can win
>>
>> Saturday's stage rolled past the birthplace of five-time Tour
>> champion Bernard Hinault, but the last Frenchman to win the Tour
>> doubts Armstrong will score the elusive sixth win.
>>
>> "He has not looked that good this year, and everyone saw how he
>> struggled in the mountains last year, so I'd say his chances of
>> winning are only 50-50 at best," Hinault said.

Never mind that Armstrong posted his fastest-ever ascent of Mont
Ventoux this year in the Dauphine-Libere. Or that Armstrong did "OK"
in the mountains in the 2003 Tour- taking the Maillot Jaune on
Alpe-D'Huez, winning on Luz Ardiden by :40 over Mayo and Ullrich after
crashing... I guess "vulnerable" = "didn't win every mountain stage."

>> Hinault presents prizes on the podium during the Tour. After
>> Armstrong's fifth victory last year, Hinault shook Armstrong's hand
>> and said, "Welcome to the club."
>
> So far, Lance has rode the perfect race. Barring a crash or illness
> he should win !!

Well, you have to take Hinault with a grain of salt. He doesn't like
to get beaten, even if he's not racing any more. But Hinault has a
point- the odds of getting through 6 Tours without a sick day, a
serious crash, or just "un jour sans" are tough. Armstrong is facing
a strong field of contenders this year, perhaps more so than in
previous years. The last week of the Tour is going to be *very*
intersting, I think.

07-12-2004, 02:55 PM

"Churchill" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:

> "brian roth" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> news:ebf01652.0407120544.15754b08@posting.google.c om...
>> found at [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>>
>> Hinault doubts Armstrong can win
>>
>> Saturday's stage rolled past the birthplace of five-time Tour
>> champion Bernard Hinault, but the last Frenchman to win the Tour
>> doubts Armstrong will score the elusive sixth win.
>>
>> "He has not looked that good this year, and everyone saw how he
>> struggled in the mountains last year, so I'd say his chances of
>> winning are only 50-50 at best," Hinault said.

Never mind that Armstrong posted his fastest-ever ascent of Mont
Ventoux this year in the Dauphine-Libere. Or that Armstrong did "OK"
in the mountains in the 2003 Tour- taking the Maillot Jaune on
Alpe-D'Huez, winning on Luz Ardiden by :40 over Mayo and Ullrich after
crashing... I guess "vulnerable" = "didn't win every mountain stage."

>> Hinault presents prizes on the podium during the Tour. After
>> Armstrong's fifth victory last year, Hinault shook Armstrong's hand
>> and said, "Welcome to the club."
>
> So far, Lance has rode the perfect race. Barring a crash or illness
> he should win !!

Well, you have to take Hinault with a grain of salt. He doesn't like
to get beaten, even if he's not racing any more. But Hinault has a
point- the odds of getting through 6 Tours without a sick day, a
serious crash, or just "un jour sans" are tough. Armstrong is facing
a strong field of contenders this year, perhaps more so than in
previous years. The last week of the Tour is going to be *very*
intersting, I think.

07-12-2004, 02:55 PM

"Churchill" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:

> "brian roth" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> news:ebf01652.0407120544.15754b08@posting.google.c om...
>> found at [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>>
>> Hinault doubts Armstrong can win
>>
>> Saturday's stage rolled past the birthplace of five-time Tour
>> champion Bernard Hinault, but the last Frenchman to win the Tour
>> doubts Armstrong will score the elusive sixth win.
>>
>> "He has not looked that good this year, and everyone saw how he
>> struggled in the mountains last year, so I'd say his chances of
>> winning are only 50-50 at best," Hinault said.

Never mind that Armstrong posted his fastest-ever ascent of Mont
Ventoux this year in the Dauphine-Libere. Or that Armstrong did "OK"
in the mountains in the 2003 Tour- taking the Maillot Jaune on
Alpe-D'Huez, winning on Luz Ardiden by :40 over Mayo and Ullrich after
crashing... I guess "vulnerable" = "didn't win every mountain stage."

>> Hinault presents prizes on the podium during the Tour. After
>> Armstrong's fifth victory last year, Hinault shook Armstrong's hand
>> and said, "Welcome to the club."
>
> So far, Lance has rode the perfect race. Barring a crash or illness
> he should win !!

Well, you have to take Hinault with a grain of salt. He doesn't like
to get beaten, even if he's not racing any more. But Hinault has a
point- the odds of getting through 6 Tours without a sick day, a
serious crash, or just "un jour sans" are tough. Armstrong is facing
a strong field of contenders this year, perhaps more so than in
previous years. The last week of the Tour is going to be *very*
intersting, I think.

07-12-2004, 05:43 PM

In article <mQCIc.5964$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>,
"Churchill" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

> "brian roth" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> news:ebf01652.0407120544.15754b08@posting.google.c om...
> > found at [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
> >
> >
> > Hinault doubts Armstrong can win
> >
> > Saturday's stage rolled past the birthplace of five-time Tour champion
> Bernard
> > Hinault, but the last Frenchman to win the Tour doubts Armstrong will
> score the
> > elusive sixth win.
> >
> > "He has not looked that good this year, and everyone saw how he struggled
> in
> > the mountains last year, so I'd say his chances of winning are only 50-50
> at
> > best," Hinault said.
> >
> > Hinault presents prizes on the podium during the Tour. After Armstrong's
> fifth
> > victory last year, Hinault shook Armstrong's hand and said, "Welcome to
> the
> > club."
>
> So far, Lance has rode the perfect race. Barring a crash or illness he
> should win !!

The perfect race? My, you're easily pleased.

--
tanx,
Howard

So far, so good, so what?

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

07-12-2004, 05:43 PM

In article <mQCIc.5964$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>,
"Churchill" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

> "brian roth" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> news:ebf01652.0407120544.15754b08@posting.google.c om...
> > found at [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
> >
> >
> > Hinault doubts Armstrong can win
> >
> > Saturday's stage rolled past the birthplace of five-time Tour champion
> Bernard
> > Hinault, but the last Frenchman to win the Tour doubts Armstrong will
> score the
> > elusive sixth win.
> >
> > "He has not looked that good this year, and everyone saw how he struggled
> in
> > the mountains last year, so I'd say his chances of winning are only 50-50
> at
> > best," Hinault said.
> >
> > Hinault presents prizes on the podium during the Tour. After Armstrong's
> fifth
> > victory last year, Hinault shook Armstrong's hand and said, "Welcome to
> the
> > club."
>
> So far, Lance has rode the perfect race. Barring a crash or illness he
> should win !!

The perfect race? My, you're easily pleased.

--
tanx,
Howard

So far, so good, so what?

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

07-12-2004, 05:43 PM

In article <mQCIc.5964$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>,
"Churchill" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

> "brian roth" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> news:ebf01652.0407120544.15754b08@posting.google.c om...
> > found at [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
> >
> >
> > Hinault doubts Armstrong can win
> >
> > Saturday's stage rolled past the birthplace of five-time Tour champion
> Bernard
> > Hinault, but the last Frenchman to win the Tour doubts Armstrong will
> score the
> > elusive sixth win.
> >
> > "He has not looked that good this year, and everyone saw how he struggled
> in
> > the mountains last year, so I'd say his chances of winning are only 50-50
> at
> > best," Hinault said.
> >
> > Hinault presents prizes on the podium during the Tour. After Armstrong's
> fifth
> > victory last year, Hinault shook Armstrong's hand and said, "Welcome to
> the
> > club."
>
> So far, Lance has rode the perfect race. Barring a crash or illness he
> should win !!

The perfect race? My, you're easily pleased.

--
tanx,
Howard

So far, so good, so what?

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?

07-12-2004, 05:43 PM

In article <mQCIc.5964$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>,
"Churchill" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

> "brian roth" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> news:ebf01652.0407120544.15754b08@posting.google.c om...
> > found at [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
> >
> >
> > Hinault doubts Armstrong can win
> >
> > Saturday's stage rolled past the birthplace of five-time Tour champion
> Bernard
> > Hinault, but the last Frenchman to win the Tour doubts Armstrong will
> score the
> > elusive sixth win.
> >
> > "He has not looked that good this year, and everyone saw how he struggled
> in
> > the mountains last year, so I'd say his chances of winning are only 50-50
> at
> > best," Hinault said.
> >
> > Hinault presents prizes on the podium during the Tour. After Armstrong's
> fifth
> > victory last year, Hinault shook Armstrong's hand and said, "Welcome to
> the
> > club."
>
> So far, Lance has rode the perfect race. Barring a crash or illness he
> should win !!

The perfect race? My, you're easily pleased.

--
tanx,
Howard

So far, so good, so what?

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?