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Old 07-21-2004, 01:41 PM   #271 (permalink)
Chalo
 
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Re: Riding with courage

"tcmedara" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
> I worry about the very soul of my fine nation when
> we celebrate evil abroad as "courageous partisans" but can't recognize
> selflessness among our own countrymen.


I know my country has rotted to the core when there are so many who
are willing call desperate defenders "evil" and the agressors of a
deceitfully ill-founded invasion "selfless".

There is an oblivious sort of even-handedness to the attitude that
says, "my country, right or wrong." This philistine but basically
exculpable viewpoint crosses over into the inexcusable when it
devolves into, "my country, always right because it's my country."
This nation would _never_ tolerate its own conduct if it came from
another nation. The only reason we do not presently face a world war
with a coalition of most of the rest of the world against us is
because all those nations are made of better stuff than we are from a
political standpoint.

Chalo Colina
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Old 07-21-2004, 11:56 PM   #272 (permalink)
Blair P. Houghton
 
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Re: Riding with courage

Badger_South <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>When the TdF commentators say the yellow jersey "used his courage to
>get back up to the back of the pack" does that have meaning to you?


Courage is doing something you know you don't want to do.

Overcoming pain is a form of courage. Risking a crash is, too.

Climbing through a pack is more dangerous and more
difficult than just sitting back there and taking what
you're left.

It's hardly crawling up the sands of Omaha Beach on D-Day,
but it's in that general direction, semantically.

--Blair
"Every post is a trial."
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Old 07-21-2004, 11:56 PM   #273 (permalink)
Blair P. Houghton
 
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Re: Riding with courage

Badger_South <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>When the TdF commentators say the yellow jersey "used his courage to
>get back up to the back of the pack" does that have meaning to you?


Courage is doing something you know you don't want to do.

Overcoming pain is a form of courage. Risking a crash is, too.

Climbing through a pack is more dangerous and more
difficult than just sitting back there and taking what
you're left.

It's hardly crawling up the sands of Omaha Beach on D-Day,
but it's in that general direction, semantically.

--Blair
"Every post is a trial."
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Old 07-21-2004, 11:56 PM   #274 (permalink)
Blair P. Houghton
 
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Re: Riding with courage

Badger_South <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>When the TdF commentators say the yellow jersey "used his courage to
>get back up to the back of the pack" does that have meaning to you?


Courage is doing something you know you don't want to do.

Overcoming pain is a form of courage. Risking a crash is, too.

Climbing through a pack is more dangerous and more
difficult than just sitting back there and taking what
you're left.

It's hardly crawling up the sands of Omaha Beach on D-Day,
but it's in that general direction, semantically.

--Blair
"Every post is a trial."
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Old 07-21-2004, 11:56 PM   #275 (permalink)
Blair P. Houghton
 
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Re: Riding with courage

Badger_South <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>When the TdF commentators say the yellow jersey "used his courage to
>get back up to the back of the pack" does that have meaning to you?


Courage is doing something you know you don't want to do.

Overcoming pain is a form of courage. Risking a crash is, too.

Climbing through a pack is more dangerous and more
difficult than just sitting back there and taking what
you're left.

It's hardly crawling up the sands of Omaha Beach on D-Day,
but it's in that general direction, semantically.

--Blair
"Every post is a trial."
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Old 07-21-2004, 11:56 PM   #276 (permalink)
Blair P. Houghton
 
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Re: Riding with courage

Badger_South <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>When the TdF commentators say the yellow jersey "used his courage to
>get back up to the back of the pack" does that have meaning to you?


Courage is doing something you know you don't want to do.

Overcoming pain is a form of courage. Risking a crash is, too.

Climbing through a pack is more dangerous and more
difficult than just sitting back there and taking what
you're left.

It's hardly crawling up the sands of Omaha Beach on D-Day,
but it's in that general direction, semantically.

--Blair
"Every post is a trial."
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Old 07-22-2004, 12:13 AM   #277 (permalink)
S o r n i
 
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Re: Riding with courage

Blair P. Houghton wrote:
> Badger_South <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>> When the TdF commentators say the yellow jersey "used his courage to
>> get back up to the back of the pack" does that have meaning to you?

>
> Courage is doing something you know you don't want to do.


I'm brave to do a load of laundry?!?

> Overcoming pain is a form of courage. Risking a crash is, too.
>
> Climbing through a pack is more dangerous and more
> difficult than just sitting back there and taking what
> you're left.


It's not really /dangerous/ on a climb, but harder yes.

> It's hardly crawling up the sands of Omaha Beach on D-Day,
> but it's in that general direction, semantically.


Issue settled previously in thread.

Bill "bedtime" S.


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Old 07-22-2004, 12:13 AM   #278 (permalink)
S o r n i
 
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Re: Riding with courage

Blair P. Houghton wrote:
> Badger_South <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>> When the TdF commentators say the yellow jersey "used his courage to
>> get back up to the back of the pack" does that have meaning to you?

>
> Courage is doing something you know you don't want to do.


I'm brave to do a load of laundry?!?

> Overcoming pain is a form of courage. Risking a crash is, too.
>
> Climbing through a pack is more dangerous and more
> difficult than just sitting back there and taking what
> you're left.


It's not really /dangerous/ on a climb, but harder yes.

> It's hardly crawling up the sands of Omaha Beach on D-Day,
> but it's in that general direction, semantically.


Issue settled previously in thread.

Bill "bedtime" S.


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Old 07-22-2004, 12:13 AM   #279 (permalink)
S o r n i
 
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Re: Riding with courage

Blair P. Houghton wrote:
> Badger_South <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>> When the TdF commentators say the yellow jersey "used his courage to
>> get back up to the back of the pack" does that have meaning to you?

>
> Courage is doing something you know you don't want to do.


I'm brave to do a load of laundry?!?

> Overcoming pain is a form of courage. Risking a crash is, too.
>
> Climbing through a pack is more dangerous and more
> difficult than just sitting back there and taking what
> you're left.


It's not really /dangerous/ on a climb, but harder yes.

> It's hardly crawling up the sands of Omaha Beach on D-Day,
> but it's in that general direction, semantically.


Issue settled previously in thread.

Bill "bedtime" S.


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Old 07-22-2004, 12:13 AM   #280 (permalink)
S o r n i
 
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Re: Riding with courage

Blair P. Houghton wrote:
> Badger_South <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>> When the TdF commentators say the yellow jersey "used his courage to
>> get back up to the back of the pack" does that have meaning to you?

>
> Courage is doing something you know you don't want to do.


I'm brave to do a load of laundry?!?

> Overcoming pain is a form of courage. Risking a crash is, too.
>
> Climbing through a pack is more dangerous and more
> difficult than just sitting back there and taking what
> you're left.


It's not really /dangerous/ on a climb, but harder yes.

> It's hardly crawling up the sands of Omaha Beach on D-Day,
> but it's in that general direction, semantically.


Issue settled previously in thread.

Bill "bedtime" S.


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