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Old 08-27-2003, 06:36 PM   #61 (permalink)
David L. Johnson
 
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Re: Threaded versus threadless headset

On Wed, 27 Aug 2003 19:57:18 +0000, jobst.brand wrote:

> Topolino?
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> Is this a sham or what!


You wish. If it is, the website is a pretty elaborate hoax. But,
somehow, I think they are serious.

Here's some of the testimonial: "I now have about 600 miles on the
wheels, mostly on dirt (there isn't much tarmac here) and I haven't had
to pick up a spoke wrench yet."

Imagine, 600 whole miles without having to true the wheels. If that isn't
an endorsement....

If you break a spoke -- of course this can't happen, but -- they replace
the whole side of the wheel that spoke was on.

Can't find any information about the price, though. That probably _isn't_
Mickey Mouse.

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Old 08-29-2003, 08:49 AM   #62 (permalink)
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Re: Threaded versus threadless headset

Ryan Cousineau <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
: Perhaps they are only light and fast like a little mouse, but durable
: like a, er, Fiat.

probably more like a fiat all-around. those large black probable velocity
attenuators near what would otherwise be the nipples just can't be aero.
at least fiats were cheap.

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apparently they were founded in a barn which just might explain the name.
my car spent a year in storage in a minnesota barn. ask me how i know about
barns and mice. i wonder how you say large rat in italian.

buy 'em online.

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Old 08-29-2003, 09:04 AM   #63 (permalink)
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Re: Threaded versus threadless headset

David Reuteler writes:

> buy 'em online.


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Whoa! I hadn't seen this page before (and why would I want to) but
this shows that these guys are hucksters. The picture shows a spoke
cross section with the words: "CARBON FIBER for STIFFNESS" and "KEVLAR
for TOUGHNESS". The elastic modulus of the two materials is grossly
different and much like hard anodizing an aluminum rim to give it more
strength. The stiffer material takes all the load before the other
one contributes anything to the action. That's why the anodizing
cracks on rims as the aluminum begins to stretch and bear load. The
Kevlar in these spokes supports no load unless the carbon fails.

By the way, where's the Mickey Mouse logo on their web page?

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Old 08-29-2003, 09:55 AM   #64 (permalink)
David Kerber
 
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Re: Threaded versus threadless headset

In article <zIL3b.16459$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>,
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] says...
> David Reuteler writes:
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> > buy 'em online.

>
> > [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

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> Whoa! I hadn't seen this page before (and why would I want to) but
> this shows that these guys are hucksters. The picture shows a spoke
> cross section with the words: "CARBON FIBER for STIFFNESS" and "KEVLAR
> for TOUGHNESS". The elastic modulus of the two materials is grossly
> different and much like hard anodizing an aluminum rim to give it more
> strength. The stiffer material takes all the load before the other
> one contributes anything to the action. That's why the anodizing
> cracks on rims as the aluminum begins to stretch and bear load. The
> Kevlar in these spokes supports no load unless the carbon fails.


As they said, the kevlar is probably to make the spoke "tougher", which
in their dictionary probably means "more resistant to abuse", not
stronger. Carbon fibers are quite brittle, while kevlar is much more
flexible, so the kevlar is likely there to protect the carbon, not to
provide tensile strength.


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Old 08-29-2003, 10:14 PM   #65 (permalink)
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Re: Threaded versus threadless headset

On Fri, 29 Aug 2003 00:15:57 -0700, Ryan Cousineau <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> from WAC
Bennett Review of Arts and Literature wrote:

>They probably just named the wheels after Fiat's mickey mouse car:


I was thinking they were just making a pun on "top of the line."



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