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Old 08-02-2004, 06:40 AM   #21 (permalink)
Bob in CT
 
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Re: Shoes and Cleats

On Mon, 2 Aug 2004 10:23:03 -0400, Roger Zoul <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
wrote:

> Bob in CT wrote:
> :: On Mon, 2 Aug 2004 10:02:55 -0400, Roger Zoul
> :: <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
> ::
> ::: I'm trying to order a pair of cycling sandals that use SPD cleats.
> :::
> ::: Is it typical for shoes that work with clipless pedals to come with
> ::: cleats?
> ::: The pair on Nashbar state that they don't come with cleats, but the
> ::: pair at
> ::: Performance don't state if they do or not. I'm surprised to find
> ::: that cleats cost around $20. I was not expecting that as my LBS
> ::: gave me a pair
> ::: free to go with the shoes I bought from them (or, maybe the cleats
> ::: were included in the price, but as it was some time before I
> ::: actually went clipless they just gave them to me then).
> :::
> ::: Can I be sure that if I buy SPD cleats that will will work with my
> ::: Shimano
> ::: SPD clipless pedals that came with my Specialized Sequoia?
> :::
> :::
> ::
> :: SPD cleats have been the same for some while now. So, they should
> :: fit. Cleats are expensive, relatively speaking. The cleats for my
> :: peddles cost $40, and I've had to replace them yearly. Are you
> :: really going to cycle a while in sandals?
>
> Okay....that must be a loaded question....I think I'm going to cycle
> while
> in sandals...is there a reason NOT to do that? The reason I want to is
> that
> at about 60 miles on a hot day, my feet give me hell. My shoes have just
> enough play in them to let my foot slip around, so after the miles build
> up
> my feet hurt. Frankly, I had to cut my ride short yesterday just
> because of
> this...so sandals seem like a good option since my toes would be free....
>
>


Let me know how it goes. I'd mentally be freaking out ("No covering over
my toes?"), but it might very well work. Are they stiff, though?

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Old 08-02-2004, 06:49 AM   #22 (permalink)
Roger Zoul
 
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Re: Shoes and Cleats

Bob in CT wrote:
:: On Mon, 2 Aug 2004 10:23:03 -0400, Roger Zoul
:: <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
::
::: Bob in CT wrote:
::::: On Mon, 2 Aug 2004 10:02:55 -0400, Roger Zoul
::::: <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
:::::
:::::: I'm trying to order a pair of cycling sandals that use SPD
:::::: cleats.
::::::
:::::: Is it typical for shoes that work with clipless pedals to come
:::::: with cleats?
:::::: The pair on Nashbar state that they don't come with cleats, but
:::::: the pair at
:::::: Performance don't state if they do or not. I'm surprised to find
:::::: that cleats cost around $20. I was not expecting that as my LBS
:::::: gave me a pair
:::::: free to go with the shoes I bought from them (or, maybe the
:::::: cleats were included in the price, but as it was some time
:::::: before I actually went clipless they just gave them to me then).
::::::
:::::: Can I be sure that if I buy SPD cleats that will will work with
:::::: my Shimano
:::::: SPD clipless pedals that came with my Specialized Sequoia?
::::::
::::::
:::::
::::: SPD cleats have been the same for some while now. So, they should
::::: fit. Cleats are expensive, relatively speaking. The cleats for my
::::: peddles cost $40, and I've had to replace them yearly. Are you
::::: really going to cycle a while in sandals?
:::
::: Okay....that must be a loaded question....I think I'm going to cycle
::: while
::: in sandals...is there a reason NOT to do that? The reason I want
::: to is that
::: at about 60 miles on a hot day, my feet give me hell. My shoes
::: have just enough play in them to let my foot slip around, so after
::: the miles build up
::: my feet hurt. Frankly, I had to cut my ride short yesterday just
::: because of
::: this...so sandals seem like a good option since my toes would be
::: free....
:::
:::
::
:: Let me know how it goes. I'd mentally be freaking out ("No covering
:: over my toes?"), but it might very well work. Are they stiff,
:: though?

Well, I don't know, but they are sold for cycling and hence I'd expect them
to be. Nashbar had the Lake version and Performance had the Shimano
version.

I have similar issue about not covering my toes, but it's either pain or
comfort, as I see it. My butt and my feet are the limiting factors for me
on long rides.

::
:: --
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Old 08-02-2004, 06:49 AM   #23 (permalink)
Roger Zoul
 
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Re: Shoes and Cleats

Bob in CT wrote:
:: On Mon, 2 Aug 2004 10:23:03 -0400, Roger Zoul
:: <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
::
::: Bob in CT wrote:
::::: On Mon, 2 Aug 2004 10:02:55 -0400, Roger Zoul
::::: <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
:::::
:::::: I'm trying to order a pair of cycling sandals that use SPD
:::::: cleats.
::::::
:::::: Is it typical for shoes that work with clipless pedals to come
:::::: with cleats?
:::::: The pair on Nashbar state that they don't come with cleats, but
:::::: the pair at
:::::: Performance don't state if they do or not. I'm surprised to find
:::::: that cleats cost around $20. I was not expecting that as my LBS
:::::: gave me a pair
:::::: free to go with the shoes I bought from them (or, maybe the
:::::: cleats were included in the price, but as it was some time
:::::: before I actually went clipless they just gave them to me then).
::::::
:::::: Can I be sure that if I buy SPD cleats that will will work with
:::::: my Shimano
:::::: SPD clipless pedals that came with my Specialized Sequoia?
::::::
::::::
:::::
::::: SPD cleats have been the same for some while now. So, they should
::::: fit. Cleats are expensive, relatively speaking. The cleats for my
::::: peddles cost $40, and I've had to replace them yearly. Are you
::::: really going to cycle a while in sandals?
:::
::: Okay....that must be a loaded question....I think I'm going to cycle
::: while
::: in sandals...is there a reason NOT to do that? The reason I want
::: to is that
::: at about 60 miles on a hot day, my feet give me hell. My shoes
::: have just enough play in them to let my foot slip around, so after
::: the miles build up
::: my feet hurt. Frankly, I had to cut my ride short yesterday just
::: because of
::: this...so sandals seem like a good option since my toes would be
::: free....
:::
:::
::
:: Let me know how it goes. I'd mentally be freaking out ("No covering
:: over my toes?"), but it might very well work. Are they stiff,
:: though?

Well, I don't know, but they are sold for cycling and hence I'd expect them
to be. Nashbar had the Lake version and Performance had the Shimano
version.

I have similar issue about not covering my toes, but it's either pain or
comfort, as I see it. My butt and my feet are the limiting factors for me
on long rides.

::
:: --
:: Bob in CT
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Old 08-02-2004, 06:49 AM   #24 (permalink)
Roger Zoul
 
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Re: Shoes and Cleats

Bob in CT wrote:
:: On Mon, 2 Aug 2004 10:23:03 -0400, Roger Zoul
:: <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
::
::: Bob in CT wrote:
::::: On Mon, 2 Aug 2004 10:02:55 -0400, Roger Zoul
::::: <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
:::::
:::::: I'm trying to order a pair of cycling sandals that use SPD
:::::: cleats.
::::::
:::::: Is it typical for shoes that work with clipless pedals to come
:::::: with cleats?
:::::: The pair on Nashbar state that they don't come with cleats, but
:::::: the pair at
:::::: Performance don't state if they do or not. I'm surprised to find
:::::: that cleats cost around $20. I was not expecting that as my LBS
:::::: gave me a pair
:::::: free to go with the shoes I bought from them (or, maybe the
:::::: cleats were included in the price, but as it was some time
:::::: before I actually went clipless they just gave them to me then).
::::::
:::::: Can I be sure that if I buy SPD cleats that will will work with
:::::: my Shimano
:::::: SPD clipless pedals that came with my Specialized Sequoia?
::::::
::::::
:::::
::::: SPD cleats have been the same for some while now. So, they should
::::: fit. Cleats are expensive, relatively speaking. The cleats for my
::::: peddles cost $40, and I've had to replace them yearly. Are you
::::: really going to cycle a while in sandals?
:::
::: Okay....that must be a loaded question....I think I'm going to cycle
::: while
::: in sandals...is there a reason NOT to do that? The reason I want
::: to is that
::: at about 60 miles on a hot day, my feet give me hell. My shoes
::: have just enough play in them to let my foot slip around, so after
::: the miles build up
::: my feet hurt. Frankly, I had to cut my ride short yesterday just
::: because of
::: this...so sandals seem like a good option since my toes would be
::: free....
:::
:::
::
:: Let me know how it goes. I'd mentally be freaking out ("No covering
:: over my toes?"), but it might very well work. Are they stiff,
:: though?

Well, I don't know, but they are sold for cycling and hence I'd expect them
to be. Nashbar had the Lake version and Performance had the Shimano
version.

I have similar issue about not covering my toes, but it's either pain or
comfort, as I see it. My butt and my feet are the limiting factors for me
on long rides.

::
:: --
:: Bob in CT
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Old 08-02-2004, 06:49 AM   #25 (permalink)
Roger Zoul
 
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Re: Shoes and Cleats

Bob in CT wrote:
:: On Mon, 2 Aug 2004 10:23:03 -0400, Roger Zoul
:: <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
::
::: Bob in CT wrote:
::::: On Mon, 2 Aug 2004 10:02:55 -0400, Roger Zoul
::::: <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
:::::
:::::: I'm trying to order a pair of cycling sandals that use SPD
:::::: cleats.
::::::
:::::: Is it typical for shoes that work with clipless pedals to come
:::::: with cleats?
:::::: The pair on Nashbar state that they don't come with cleats, but
:::::: the pair at
:::::: Performance don't state if they do or not. I'm surprised to find
:::::: that cleats cost around $20. I was not expecting that as my LBS
:::::: gave me a pair
:::::: free to go with the shoes I bought from them (or, maybe the
:::::: cleats were included in the price, but as it was some time
:::::: before I actually went clipless they just gave them to me then).
::::::
:::::: Can I be sure that if I buy SPD cleats that will will work with
:::::: my Shimano
:::::: SPD clipless pedals that came with my Specialized Sequoia?
::::::
::::::
:::::
::::: SPD cleats have been the same for some while now. So, they should
::::: fit. Cleats are expensive, relatively speaking. The cleats for my
::::: peddles cost $40, and I've had to replace them yearly. Are you
::::: really going to cycle a while in sandals?
:::
::: Okay....that must be a loaded question....I think I'm going to cycle
::: while
::: in sandals...is there a reason NOT to do that? The reason I want
::: to is that
::: at about 60 miles on a hot day, my feet give me hell. My shoes
::: have just enough play in them to let my foot slip around, so after
::: the miles build up
::: my feet hurt. Frankly, I had to cut my ride short yesterday just
::: because of
::: this...so sandals seem like a good option since my toes would be
::: free....
:::
:::
::
:: Let me know how it goes. I'd mentally be freaking out ("No covering
:: over my toes?"), but it might very well work. Are they stiff,
:: though?

Well, I don't know, but they are sold for cycling and hence I'd expect them
to be. Nashbar had the Lake version and Performance had the Shimano
version.

I have similar issue about not covering my toes, but it's either pain or
comfort, as I see it. My butt and my feet are the limiting factors for me
on long rides.

::
:: --
:: Bob in CT
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Old 08-02-2004, 06:49 AM   #26 (permalink)
Roger Zoul
 
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Re: Shoes and Cleats

Bob in CT wrote:
:: On Mon, 2 Aug 2004 10:23:03 -0400, Roger Zoul
:: <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
::
::: Bob in CT wrote:
::::: On Mon, 2 Aug 2004 10:02:55 -0400, Roger Zoul
::::: <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
:::::
:::::: I'm trying to order a pair of cycling sandals that use SPD
:::::: cleats.
::::::
:::::: Is it typical for shoes that work with clipless pedals to come
:::::: with cleats?
:::::: The pair on Nashbar state that they don't come with cleats, but
:::::: the pair at
:::::: Performance don't state if they do or not. I'm surprised to find
:::::: that cleats cost around $20. I was not expecting that as my LBS
:::::: gave me a pair
:::::: free to go with the shoes I bought from them (or, maybe the
:::::: cleats were included in the price, but as it was some time
:::::: before I actually went clipless they just gave them to me then).
::::::
:::::: Can I be sure that if I buy SPD cleats that will will work with
:::::: my Shimano
:::::: SPD clipless pedals that came with my Specialized Sequoia?
::::::
::::::
:::::
::::: SPD cleats have been the same for some while now. So, they should
::::: fit. Cleats are expensive, relatively speaking. The cleats for my
::::: peddles cost $40, and I've had to replace them yearly. Are you
::::: really going to cycle a while in sandals?
:::
::: Okay....that must be a loaded question....I think I'm going to cycle
::: while
::: in sandals...is there a reason NOT to do that? The reason I want
::: to is that
::: at about 60 miles on a hot day, my feet give me hell. My shoes
::: have just enough play in them to let my foot slip around, so after
::: the miles build up
::: my feet hurt. Frankly, I had to cut my ride short yesterday just
::: because of
::: this...so sandals seem like a good option since my toes would be
::: free....
:::
:::
::
:: Let me know how it goes. I'd mentally be freaking out ("No covering
:: over my toes?"), but it might very well work. Are they stiff,
:: though?

Well, I don't know, but they are sold for cycling and hence I'd expect them
to be. Nashbar had the Lake version and Performance had the Shimano
version.

I have similar issue about not covering my toes, but it's either pain or
comfort, as I see it. My butt and my feet are the limiting factors for me
on long rides.

::
:: --
:: Bob in CT
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Old 08-02-2004, 07:41 AM   #27 (permalink)
S o r n i
 
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Re: Shoes and Cleats

Roger Zoul wrote:
> I'm trying to order a pair of cycling sandals that use SPD cleats.
>
> Is it typical for shoes that work with clipless pedals to come with
> cleats? The pair on Nashbar state that they don't come with cleats,
> but the pair at Performance don't state if they do or not. I'm
> surprised to find that cleats cost around $20. I was not expecting
> that as my LBS gave me a pair free to go with the shoes I bought from
> them (or, maybe the cleats were included in the price, but as it was
> some time before I actually went clipless they just gave them to me
> then).
>
> Can I be sure that if I buy SPD cleats that will will work with my
> Shimano SPD clipless pedals that came with my Specialized Sequoia?


No, shoes do NOT come with cleats. Best bet is to find some SPD cleats on
sale somewhere and stock up.

While it might be cool (literally) to ride in sandals now and then, I really
wonder about your intended use (having read your other post{s}). Just
because the shoes you have now don't fit properly, doesn't mean you should
avoid all shoes!

I, for one, wouldn't feel too comfortable doing lengthy rides in sandals.
All it takes is /one crash/...

Bill "modify current shoes, or buy some new ones that actually fit your
feet" S.


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Old 08-02-2004, 07:41 AM   #28 (permalink)
S o r n i
 
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Re: Shoes and Cleats

Roger Zoul wrote:
> I'm trying to order a pair of cycling sandals that use SPD cleats.
>
> Is it typical for shoes that work with clipless pedals to come with
> cleats? The pair on Nashbar state that they don't come with cleats,
> but the pair at Performance don't state if they do or not. I'm
> surprised to find that cleats cost around $20. I was not expecting
> that as my LBS gave me a pair free to go with the shoes I bought from
> them (or, maybe the cleats were included in the price, but as it was
> some time before I actually went clipless they just gave them to me
> then).
>
> Can I be sure that if I buy SPD cleats that will will work with my
> Shimano SPD clipless pedals that came with my Specialized Sequoia?


No, shoes do NOT come with cleats. Best bet is to find some SPD cleats on
sale somewhere and stock up.

While it might be cool (literally) to ride in sandals now and then, I really
wonder about your intended use (having read your other post{s}). Just
because the shoes you have now don't fit properly, doesn't mean you should
avoid all shoes!

I, for one, wouldn't feel too comfortable doing lengthy rides in sandals.
All it takes is /one crash/...

Bill "modify current shoes, or buy some new ones that actually fit your
feet" S.


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Old 08-02-2004, 07:41 AM   #29 (permalink)
S o r n i
 
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Re: Shoes and Cleats

Roger Zoul wrote:
> I'm trying to order a pair of cycling sandals that use SPD cleats.
>
> Is it typical for shoes that work with clipless pedals to come with
> cleats? The pair on Nashbar state that they don't come with cleats,
> but the pair at Performance don't state if they do or not. I'm
> surprised to find that cleats cost around $20. I was not expecting
> that as my LBS gave me a pair free to go with the shoes I bought from
> them (or, maybe the cleats were included in the price, but as it was
> some time before I actually went clipless they just gave them to me
> then).
>
> Can I be sure that if I buy SPD cleats that will will work with my
> Shimano SPD clipless pedals that came with my Specialized Sequoia?


No, shoes do NOT come with cleats. Best bet is to find some SPD cleats on
sale somewhere and stock up.

While it might be cool (literally) to ride in sandals now and then, I really
wonder about your intended use (having read your other post{s}). Just
because the shoes you have now don't fit properly, doesn't mean you should
avoid all shoes!

I, for one, wouldn't feel too comfortable doing lengthy rides in sandals.
All it takes is /one crash/...

Bill "modify current shoes, or buy some new ones that actually fit your
feet" S.


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Old 08-02-2004, 07:41 AM   #30 (permalink)
S o r n i
 
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Re: Shoes and Cleats

Roger Zoul wrote:
> I'm trying to order a pair of cycling sandals that use SPD cleats.
>
> Is it typical for shoes that work with clipless pedals to come with
> cleats? The pair on Nashbar state that they don't come with cleats,
> but the pair at Performance don't state if they do or not. I'm
> surprised to find that cleats cost around $20. I was not expecting
> that as my LBS gave me a pair free to go with the shoes I bought from
> them (or, maybe the cleats were included in the price, but as it was
> some time before I actually went clipless they just gave them to me
> then).
>
> Can I be sure that if I buy SPD cleats that will will work with my
> Shimano SPD clipless pedals that came with my Specialized Sequoia?


No, shoes do NOT come with cleats. Best bet is to find some SPD cleats on
sale somewhere and stock up.

While it might be cool (literally) to ride in sandals now and then, I really
wonder about your intended use (having read your other post{s}). Just
because the shoes you have now don't fit properly, doesn't mean you should
avoid all shoes!

I, for one, wouldn't feel too comfortable doing lengthy rides in sandals.
All it takes is /one crash/...

Bill "modify current shoes, or buy some new ones that actually fit your
feet" S.


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