Trek 7500FX or 1000C? - Page 6

08-02-2004, 09:49 PM

On 2 Aug 2004 15:55:27 -0700, John wrote:

> I am not sure which bike will work better for me. I think I will
> ride on pavement and ruled out mountain bikes. On the other hand,
> I do not want to spend that much on a purebred road bike.

Why not? Road bikes are more comfortable, because the dropped
bars give you several hand positions, and more rewarding, because
you'll go faster for the same effort, and will be able to ride with groups
without being at a disadvantage.

IMHO all of these are important motivational factors for sticking with
riding. I don't know what motivates mountain bikers - negotiating
difficult terrain, presumably.

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08-03-2004, 02:51 AM

FWIW - exactly what I feel, also. I have both MTB and a road bike and I find
that on the road the road bike is better than MTB and I spend all my time on
the brake hoods and on the tops. I am not flexible enough for the drops
(yet) but I still prefer the road bike to the MTB for road riding. Sure the
MTB has comfy suspension but everything else on road bike is better suited
to the road. And, yes, really bad roads will make it hard for road bike. It
is not about speed btw even though road bike will be faster all other things
being equal.

"Luigi de Guzman" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 04:29:05 GMT, "Sherry Katz" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
> wrote:
>
> <SNIP>
> > For touring, moderate distances (100 miles or less) and
> >moderate speed, a mountain bike with road slicks or a hybrid bike (so
long
> >as you add bar ends or some alternative for varying your position) is
going
> >to be more comfortable, provide a better view of the road, provide less
> >worry about flats, and be less jarring.
>
> I can't get comfortable on flat bars for longer than a few
> miles/minutes. Can't. My wrists get put in places they don't want to
> be, and unless I'm going to be pulling UP on the bars a lot (pulling
> the wheel over obstacles, say), I prefer having my wrists face each
> other rather than the pavement.
>
> Bar-ends are always too wide for me to be comfortable. then I can't
> brake from them, either.
>
> So I like drops. One of my bikes had moustache-like bars, and I liked
> those for tooling around the city--I'd seriously consider going to a
> moustache-bar setup again, someday.
>
> And bizarrrely, I actually *like* to be hunched over, if only a bit,
> when I'm sitting on a bike. Bolt-upright postures make me
> uncomfortable and unsteady; once I get down and put a bit more weight
> on my arms, I'm comfy.
>
>
> As far as flats and jarring: I ride a Jamis Aurora, my tires are
> 700Cx 32mm and full pressure, and the whole thing rides just like I
> want it: smooth, steady, just fast enough. Just right.
>
> Bottom line: your handlebar choice--indeed, your whole choice of
> bike-- is pretty personal.
>
> -Luigi

08-03-2004, 02:51 AM

FWIW - exactly what I feel, also. I have both MTB and a road bike and I find
that on the road the road bike is better than MTB and I spend all my time on
the brake hoods and on the tops. I am not flexible enough for the drops
(yet) but I still prefer the road bike to the MTB for road riding. Sure the
MTB has comfy suspension but everything else on road bike is better suited
to the road. And, yes, really bad roads will make it hard for road bike. It
is not about speed btw even though road bike will be faster all other things
being equal.

"Luigi de Guzman" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 04:29:05 GMT, "Sherry Katz" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
> wrote:
>
> <SNIP>
> > For touring, moderate distances (100 miles or less) and
> >moderate speed, a mountain bike with road slicks or a hybrid bike (so
long
> >as you add bar ends or some alternative for varying your position) is
going
> >to be more comfortable, provide a better view of the road, provide less
> >worry about flats, and be less jarring.
>
> I can't get comfortable on flat bars for longer than a few
> miles/minutes. Can't. My wrists get put in places they don't want to
> be, and unless I'm going to be pulling UP on the bars a lot (pulling
> the wheel over obstacles, say), I prefer having my wrists face each
> other rather than the pavement.
>
> Bar-ends are always too wide for me to be comfortable. then I can't
> brake from them, either.
>
> So I like drops. One of my bikes had moustache-like bars, and I liked
> those for tooling around the city--I'd seriously consider going to a
> moustache-bar setup again, someday.
>
> And bizarrrely, I actually *like* to be hunched over, if only a bit,
> when I'm sitting on a bike. Bolt-upright postures make me
> uncomfortable and unsteady; once I get down and put a bit more weight
> on my arms, I'm comfy.
>
>
> As far as flats and jarring: I ride a Jamis Aurora, my tires are
> 700Cx 32mm and full pressure, and the whole thing rides just like I
> want it: smooth, steady, just fast enough. Just right.
>
> Bottom line: your handlebar choice--indeed, your whole choice of
> bike-- is pretty personal.
>
> -Luigi

08-03-2004, 02:51 AM

FWIW - exactly what I feel, also. I have both MTB and a road bike and I find
that on the road the road bike is better than MTB and I spend all my time on
the brake hoods and on the tops. I am not flexible enough for the drops
(yet) but I still prefer the road bike to the MTB for road riding. Sure the
MTB has comfy suspension but everything else on road bike is better suited
to the road. And, yes, really bad roads will make it hard for road bike. It
is not about speed btw even though road bike will be faster all other things
being equal.

"Luigi de Guzman" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 04:29:05 GMT, "Sherry Katz" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
> wrote:
>
> <SNIP>
> > For touring, moderate distances (100 miles or less) and
> >moderate speed, a mountain bike with road slicks or a hybrid bike (so
long
> >as you add bar ends or some alternative for varying your position) is
going
> >to be more comfortable, provide a better view of the road, provide less
> >worry about flats, and be less jarring.
>
> I can't get comfortable on flat bars for longer than a few
> miles/minutes. Can't. My wrists get put in places they don't want to
> be, and unless I'm going to be pulling UP on the bars a lot (pulling
> the wheel over obstacles, say), I prefer having my wrists face each
> other rather than the pavement.
>
> Bar-ends are always too wide for me to be comfortable. then I can't
> brake from them, either.
>
> So I like drops. One of my bikes had moustache-like bars, and I liked
> those for tooling around the city--I'd seriously consider going to a
> moustache-bar setup again, someday.
>
> And bizarrrely, I actually *like* to be hunched over, if only a bit,
> when I'm sitting on a bike. Bolt-upright postures make me
> uncomfortable and unsteady; once I get down and put a bit more weight
> on my arms, I'm comfy.
>
>
> As far as flats and jarring: I ride a Jamis Aurora, my tires are
> 700Cx 32mm and full pressure, and the whole thing rides just like I
> want it: smooth, steady, just fast enough. Just right.
>
> Bottom line: your handlebar choice--indeed, your whole choice of
> bike-- is pretty personal.
>
> -Luigi

08-03-2004, 02:51 AM

FWIW - exactly what I feel, also. I have both MTB and a road bike and I find
that on the road the road bike is better than MTB and I spend all my time on
the brake hoods and on the tops. I am not flexible enough for the drops
(yet) but I still prefer the road bike to the MTB for road riding. Sure the
MTB has comfy suspension but everything else on road bike is better suited
to the road. And, yes, really bad roads will make it hard for road bike. It
is not about speed btw even though road bike will be faster all other things
being equal.

"Luigi de Guzman" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 04:29:05 GMT, "Sherry Katz" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
> wrote:
>
> <SNIP>
> > For touring, moderate distances (100 miles or less) and
> >moderate speed, a mountain bike with road slicks or a hybrid bike (so
long
> >as you add bar ends or some alternative for varying your position) is
going
> >to be more comfortable, provide a better view of the road, provide less
> >worry about flats, and be less jarring.
>
> I can't get comfortable on flat bars for longer than a few
> miles/minutes. Can't. My wrists get put in places they don't want to
> be, and unless I'm going to be pulling UP on the bars a lot (pulling
> the wheel over obstacles, say), I prefer having my wrists face each
> other rather than the pavement.
>
> Bar-ends are always too wide for me to be comfortable. then I can't
> brake from them, either.
>
> So I like drops. One of my bikes had moustache-like bars, and I liked
> those for tooling around the city--I'd seriously consider going to a
> moustache-bar setup again, someday.
>
> And bizarrrely, I actually *like* to be hunched over, if only a bit,
> when I'm sitting on a bike. Bolt-upright postures make me
> uncomfortable and unsteady; once I get down and put a bit more weight
> on my arms, I'm comfy.
>
>
> As far as flats and jarring: I ride a Jamis Aurora, my tires are
> 700Cx 32mm and full pressure, and the whole thing rides just like I
> want it: smooth, steady, just fast enough. Just right.
>
> Bottom line: your handlebar choice--indeed, your whole choice of
> bike-- is pretty personal.
>
> -Luigi

08-03-2004, 02:51 AM

FWIW - exactly what I feel, also. I have both MTB and a road bike and I find
that on the road the road bike is better than MTB and I spend all my time on
the brake hoods and on the tops. I am not flexible enough for the drops
(yet) but I still prefer the road bike to the MTB for road riding. Sure the
MTB has comfy suspension but everything else on road bike is better suited
to the road. And, yes, really bad roads will make it hard for road bike. It
is not about speed btw even though road bike will be faster all other things
being equal.

"Luigi de Guzman" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 04:29:05 GMT, "Sherry Katz" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
> wrote:
>
> <SNIP>
> > For touring, moderate distances (100 miles or less) and
> >moderate speed, a mountain bike with road slicks or a hybrid bike (so
long
> >as you add bar ends or some alternative for varying your position) is
going
> >to be more comfortable, provide a better view of the road, provide less
> >worry about flats, and be less jarring.
>
> I can't get comfortable on flat bars for longer than a few
> miles/minutes. Can't. My wrists get put in places they don't want to
> be, and unless I'm going to be pulling UP on the bars a lot (pulling
> the wheel over obstacles, say), I prefer having my wrists face each
> other rather than the pavement.
>
> Bar-ends are always too wide for me to be comfortable. then I can't
> brake from them, either.
>
> So I like drops. One of my bikes had moustache-like bars, and I liked
> those for tooling around the city--I'd seriously consider going to a
> moustache-bar setup again, someday.
>
> And bizarrrely, I actually *like* to be hunched over, if only a bit,
> when I'm sitting on a bike. Bolt-upright postures make me
> uncomfortable and unsteady; once I get down and put a bit more weight
> on my arms, I'm comfy.
>
>
> As far as flats and jarring: I ride a Jamis Aurora, my tires are
> 700Cx 32mm and full pressure, and the whole thing rides just like I
> want it: smooth, steady, just fast enough. Just right.
>
> Bottom line: your handlebar choice--indeed, your whole choice of
> bike-- is pretty personal.
>
> -Luigi

08-03-2004, 06:16 AM

On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 10:51:00 GMT, "Yuri Budilov"
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>FWIW - exactly what I feel, also. I have both MTB and a road bike and I find
>that on the road the road bike is better than MTB and I spend all my time on
>the brake hoods and on the tops. I am not flexible enough for the drops
>(yet)

I spend almost no time in the tops. I end up going to the tops when
i'm tired and going uphill--otherwise, I'm on the hoods or just behind
them most of the time. The drops are for go-fast stretches,
headwinds, and descents.

-Luigi

08-03-2004, 06:16 AM

On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 10:51:00 GMT, "Yuri Budilov"
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>FWIW - exactly what I feel, also. I have both MTB and a road bike and I find
>that on the road the road bike is better than MTB and I spend all my time on
>the brake hoods and on the tops. I am not flexible enough for the drops
>(yet)

I spend almost no time in the tops. I end up going to the tops when
i'm tired and going uphill--otherwise, I'm on the hoods or just behind
them most of the time. The drops are for go-fast stretches,
headwinds, and descents.

-Luigi

08-03-2004, 06:16 AM

On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 10:51:00 GMT, "Yuri Budilov"
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>FWIW - exactly what I feel, also. I have both MTB and a road bike and I find
>that on the road the road bike is better than MTB and I spend all my time on
>the brake hoods and on the tops. I am not flexible enough for the drops
>(yet)

I spend almost no time in the tops. I end up going to the tops when
i'm tired and going uphill--otherwise, I'm on the hoods or just behind
them most of the time. The drops are for go-fast stretches,
headwinds, and descents.

-Luigi

08-03-2004, 06:16 AM

On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 10:51:00 GMT, "Yuri Budilov"
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>FWIW - exactly what I feel, also. I have both MTB and a road bike and I find
>that on the road the road bike is better than MTB and I spend all my time on
>the brake hoods and on the tops. I am not flexible enough for the drops
>(yet)

I spend almost no time in the tops. I end up going to the tops when
i'm tired and going uphill--otherwise, I'm on the hoods or just behind
them most of the time. The drops are for go-fast stretches,
headwinds, and descents.

-Luigi