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Old 08-03-2004, 08:42 AM   #21 (permalink)
Sheldon Brown
 
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Re: 7 to 8 Speed

ChronoFish wrote:

> I currently have a 1996/1997 Cannondale R300 that has been
> slowly "upgraded" and transformed into a tri bike over time.
>
> The rims on the wheels are grooved and should probably be
> replaced at the end of the season if not sooner. While
> doing so I would like to move up to an 8-speed cassette.
>
> Why 8? The thought is that it would give me one more gear
> choice while allowing me to keep my current drive train. Is
> this the correct assumption?


Yes, but the same is true of 9. 8-speed is a bit of a dead end, and I
would advise against it.

> The current setup of a older 105 rear derailleur with
> bar-end shifters mounted on aerobars in friction setting
> (rather than STI) works quite well I am very happy with it.
> However the 11-21 cluster is a bit of a challenge (for me)
> on steeper hills.
>
> I was hoping to focus more of my money on the wheels -
> something like a pair of Aerospokes with an 8-speed (11-26
> or something similar) without having to upgrade the
> rear-derailleur, chain, and therefore crankset (in other
> words the entire drivetrain).


You don't need to change that much stuff.

To convert to 9-speed friction, all you need is the new rear wheel with
a 9-speed cassette and suitable chain. (You should always replace the
chain when you install a new cassette.)

If you want go to with indexing, you'll also need to replace the shifters.

The 9-speed Dura-Ace bar-end shifters had been in very short supply, but
we just received a large shipment of them.

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You don't need to replace derailers or chainrings, the ones you have
will work fine.

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Old 08-03-2004, 04:52 PM   #22 (permalink)
Brad Hubbard
 
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Re: 7 to 8 Speed

Sheldon Brown wrote:

> If you want go to with indexing, you'll also need to replace the shifters.


Pardon my ignorance but what's indexing?

TIA,
Brad
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Old 08-03-2004, 04:52 PM   #23 (permalink)
Brad Hubbard
 
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Re: 7 to 8 Speed

Sheldon Brown wrote:

> If you want go to with indexing, you'll also need to replace the shifters.


Pardon my ignorance but what's indexing?

TIA,
Brad
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Old 08-03-2004, 04:52 PM   #24 (permalink)
Brad Hubbard
 
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Re: 7 to 8 Speed

Sheldon Brown wrote:

> If you want go to with indexing, you'll also need to replace the shifters.


Pardon my ignorance but what's indexing?

TIA,
Brad
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Old 08-03-2004, 04:52 PM   #25 (permalink)
Brad Hubbard
 
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Re: 7 to 8 Speed

Sheldon Brown wrote:

> If you want go to with indexing, you'll also need to replace the shifters.


Pardon my ignorance but what's indexing?

TIA,
Brad
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Old 08-03-2004, 04:52 PM   #26 (permalink)
Brad Hubbard
 
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Re: 7 to 8 Speed

Sheldon Brown wrote:

> If you want go to with indexing, you'll also need to replace the shifters.


Pardon my ignorance but what's indexing?

TIA,
Brad
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Old 08-03-2004, 06:32 PM   #27 (permalink)
maxo
 
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Re: 7 to 8 Speed

On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 00:52:06 +0000, Brad Hubbard wrote:

> Sheldon Brown wrote:
>
>> If you want go to with indexing, you'll also need to replace the
>> shifters.

>
> Pardon my ignorance but what's indexing?
>
> TIA,
> Brad


"clicky" shifting, where the shifter, when adjusted properly, clicks
through a number of indents instead of having a smooth travel. Each
indent precisely lines the derailleur cage up with the appropriate cog.
With friction shifting, you have to rely on "feel" to make sure the gear
is properly aligned, using your feel, ear, and sometimes a glance back at
the cage (be careful LOL).

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Old 08-03-2004, 06:32 PM   #28 (permalink)
maxo
 
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Re: 7 to 8 Speed

On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 00:52:06 +0000, Brad Hubbard wrote:

> Sheldon Brown wrote:
>
>> If you want go to with indexing, you'll also need to replace the
>> shifters.

>
> Pardon my ignorance but what's indexing?
>
> TIA,
> Brad


"clicky" shifting, where the shifter, when adjusted properly, clicks
through a number of indents instead of having a smooth travel. Each
indent precisely lines the derailleur cage up with the appropriate cog.
With friction shifting, you have to rely on "feel" to make sure the gear
is properly aligned, using your feel, ear, and sometimes a glance back at
the cage (be careful LOL).

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Old 08-03-2004, 06:32 PM   #29 (permalink)
maxo
 
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Re: 7 to 8 Speed

On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 00:52:06 +0000, Brad Hubbard wrote:

> Sheldon Brown wrote:
>
>> If you want go to with indexing, you'll also need to replace the
>> shifters.

>
> Pardon my ignorance but what's indexing?
>
> TIA,
> Brad


"clicky" shifting, where the shifter, when adjusted properly, clicks
through a number of indents instead of having a smooth travel. Each
indent precisely lines the derailleur cage up with the appropriate cog.
With friction shifting, you have to rely on "feel" to make sure the gear
is properly aligned, using your feel, ear, and sometimes a glance back at
the cage (be careful LOL).

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Old 08-03-2004, 06:32 PM   #30 (permalink)
maxo
 
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Re: 7 to 8 Speed

On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 00:52:06 +0000, Brad Hubbard wrote:

> Sheldon Brown wrote:
>
>> If you want go to with indexing, you'll also need to replace the
>> shifters.

>
> Pardon my ignorance but what's indexing?
>
> TIA,
> Brad


"clicky" shifting, where the shifter, when adjusted properly, clicks
through a number of indents instead of having a smooth travel. Each
indent precisely lines the derailleur cage up with the appropriate cog.
With friction shifting, you have to rely on "feel" to make sure the gear
is properly aligned, using your feel, ear, and sometimes a glance back at
the cage (be careful LOL).

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