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Old 08-04-2004, 04:52 AM   #51 (permalink)
Jeremy Collins
 
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Re: 7 to 8 Speed

Tom Henderson wrote:


> I sometimes wonder if friction isn't really the best way to go, since it
> requires so much less fine tuning.


I miss friction on the front derailler for trimming the
position. Oh well, I suppose it's progress.

I love indexed shifting on the rear though. Worth the extra
trouble setting up, IMO.

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Old 08-04-2004, 06:45 AM   #52 (permalink)
maxo
 
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Re: 7 to 8 Speed

On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 00:08:29 -0600, carlfogel wrote:

> Another gearing option is the internal gear-hub, such as the Rohloff,
> which offers a wide range of gears hidden inside a chubby hub. While
> expensive and heavy, these are said to have many advantages, including the
> ability to shift in an indexed fashion while not moving.


The Rohloffs are indeed pricey, but magnificent--I've seen a display with
one slice open. Wow!

For the commuter, bike trail user, and otherwise utilitarian cyclist, I
can think of no better gearing system than internal. Bikes equipped with
Shimano Nexus are quite affordable and the most common bikes in most of
western Europe. They're even less finicky than the old Sturmey Archers,
and require zero maintenance except for occasional cable adjustment. Sure
they weigh a couple pounds, but its not perimeter wheel weight, so you
won't really notice, you'll just ride more since it's not a hassle. Use
fancy bike lube or motor oil on the wide chain--it matters little with a
chain that's not going up or down a cluster and threaded through a
derailleur.

Some bikes you can get in the US with Nexus:
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

See Sheldon Brown's site for more internal gearing info.

You can also buy a 7 speed Nexus hub for around a hundred bucks at
bikepartsusa.com and have your LBS rebuild your rear wheel with it and
otherwise convert your bike to internal gearing, I'd estimate total cost
at around $200 for a conversion. A perfect solution for that cool, but
unused 80s MTB in the garage.

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Old 08-04-2004, 06:45 AM   #53 (permalink)
maxo
 
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Re: 7 to 8 Speed

On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 00:08:29 -0600, carlfogel wrote:

> Another gearing option is the internal gear-hub, such as the Rohloff,
> which offers a wide range of gears hidden inside a chubby hub. While
> expensive and heavy, these are said to have many advantages, including the
> ability to shift in an indexed fashion while not moving.


The Rohloffs are indeed pricey, but magnificent--I've seen a display with
one slice open. Wow!

For the commuter, bike trail user, and otherwise utilitarian cyclist, I
can think of no better gearing system than internal. Bikes equipped with
Shimano Nexus are quite affordable and the most common bikes in most of
western Europe. They're even less finicky than the old Sturmey Archers,
and require zero maintenance except for occasional cable adjustment. Sure
they weigh a couple pounds, but its not perimeter wheel weight, so you
won't really notice, you'll just ride more since it's not a hassle. Use
fancy bike lube or motor oil on the wide chain--it matters little with a
chain that's not going up or down a cluster and threaded through a
derailleur.

Some bikes you can get in the US with Nexus:
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

See Sheldon Brown's site for more internal gearing info.

You can also buy a 7 speed Nexus hub for around a hundred bucks at
bikepartsusa.com and have your LBS rebuild your rear wheel with it and
otherwise convert your bike to internal gearing, I'd estimate total cost
at around $200 for a conversion. A perfect solution for that cool, but
unused 80s MTB in the garage.

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Old 08-04-2004, 06:45 AM   #54 (permalink)
maxo
 
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Re: 7 to 8 Speed

On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 00:08:29 -0600, carlfogel wrote:

> Another gearing option is the internal gear-hub, such as the Rohloff,
> which offers a wide range of gears hidden inside a chubby hub. While
> expensive and heavy, these are said to have many advantages, including the
> ability to shift in an indexed fashion while not moving.


The Rohloffs are indeed pricey, but magnificent--I've seen a display with
one slice open. Wow!

For the commuter, bike trail user, and otherwise utilitarian cyclist, I
can think of no better gearing system than internal. Bikes equipped with
Shimano Nexus are quite affordable and the most common bikes in most of
western Europe. They're even less finicky than the old Sturmey Archers,
and require zero maintenance except for occasional cable adjustment. Sure
they weigh a couple pounds, but its not perimeter wheel weight, so you
won't really notice, you'll just ride more since it's not a hassle. Use
fancy bike lube or motor oil on the wide chain--it matters little with a
chain that's not going up or down a cluster and threaded through a
derailleur.

Some bikes you can get in the US with Nexus:
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

See Sheldon Brown's site for more internal gearing info.

You can also buy a 7 speed Nexus hub for around a hundred bucks at
bikepartsusa.com and have your LBS rebuild your rear wheel with it and
otherwise convert your bike to internal gearing, I'd estimate total cost
at around $200 for a conversion. A perfect solution for that cool, but
unused 80s MTB in the garage.

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Old 08-04-2004, 06:45 AM   #55 (permalink)
maxo
 
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Re: 7 to 8 Speed

On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 00:08:29 -0600, carlfogel wrote:

> Another gearing option is the internal gear-hub, such as the Rohloff,
> which offers a wide range of gears hidden inside a chubby hub. While
> expensive and heavy, these are said to have many advantages, including the
> ability to shift in an indexed fashion while not moving.


The Rohloffs are indeed pricey, but magnificent--I've seen a display with
one slice open. Wow!

For the commuter, bike trail user, and otherwise utilitarian cyclist, I
can think of no better gearing system than internal. Bikes equipped with
Shimano Nexus are quite affordable and the most common bikes in most of
western Europe. They're even less finicky than the old Sturmey Archers,
and require zero maintenance except for occasional cable adjustment. Sure
they weigh a couple pounds, but its not perimeter wheel weight, so you
won't really notice, you'll just ride more since it's not a hassle. Use
fancy bike lube or motor oil on the wide chain--it matters little with a
chain that's not going up or down a cluster and threaded through a
derailleur.

Some bikes you can get in the US with Nexus:
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

See Sheldon Brown's site for more internal gearing info.

You can also buy a 7 speed Nexus hub for around a hundred bucks at
bikepartsusa.com and have your LBS rebuild your rear wheel with it and
otherwise convert your bike to internal gearing, I'd estimate total cost
at around $200 for a conversion. A perfect solution for that cool, but
unused 80s MTB in the garage.

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Old 08-04-2004, 06:45 AM   #56 (permalink)
maxo
 
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Re: 7 to 8 Speed

On Wed, 04 Aug 2004 00:08:29 -0600, carlfogel wrote:

> Another gearing option is the internal gear-hub, such as the Rohloff,
> which offers a wide range of gears hidden inside a chubby hub. While
> expensive and heavy, these are said to have many advantages, including the
> ability to shift in an indexed fashion while not moving.


The Rohloffs are indeed pricey, but magnificent--I've seen a display with
one slice open. Wow!

For the commuter, bike trail user, and otherwise utilitarian cyclist, I
can think of no better gearing system than internal. Bikes equipped with
Shimano Nexus are quite affordable and the most common bikes in most of
western Europe. They're even less finicky than the old Sturmey Archers,
and require zero maintenance except for occasional cable adjustment. Sure
they weigh a couple pounds, but its not perimeter wheel weight, so you
won't really notice, you'll just ride more since it's not a hassle. Use
fancy bike lube or motor oil on the wide chain--it matters little with a
chain that's not going up or down a cluster and threaded through a
derailleur.

Some bikes you can get in the US with Nexus:
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

See Sheldon Brown's site for more internal gearing info.

You can also buy a 7 speed Nexus hub for around a hundred bucks at
bikepartsusa.com and have your LBS rebuild your rear wheel with it and
otherwise convert your bike to internal gearing, I'd estimate total cost
at around $200 for a conversion. A perfect solution for that cool, but
unused 80s MTB in the garage.

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Old 08-04-2004, 07:09 AM   #57 (permalink)
Sheldon Brown
 
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Re: 7 to 8 Speed

I wrote, in part:
>
>>If you want go to with indexing, you'll also need to replace the shifters.

>

Brad Hubbard asked:
>
> Pardon my ignorance but what's indexing?


"Click shifting."

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Old 08-04-2004, 07:09 AM   #58 (permalink)
Sheldon Brown
 
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Re: 7 to 8 Speed

I wrote, in part:
>
>>If you want go to with indexing, you'll also need to replace the shifters.

>

Brad Hubbard asked:
>
> Pardon my ignorance but what's indexing?


"Click shifting."

This is one of hundreds of bicycle terms explained in my online Bicycle
Glossary.

See: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

or more specifically: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

Sheldon "Cyclexicographer" Brown
+----------------------------------------+
| Promote the institution of marriage: |
| Make it available to all adults! |
+----------------------------------------+
Harris Cyclery, West Newton, Massachusetts
Phone 617-244-9772 FAX 617-244-1041
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
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Old 08-04-2004, 07:09 AM   #59 (permalink)
Sheldon Brown
 
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Re: 7 to 8 Speed

I wrote, in part:
>
>>If you want go to with indexing, you'll also need to replace the shifters.

>

Brad Hubbard asked:
>
> Pardon my ignorance but what's indexing?


"Click shifting."

This is one of hundreds of bicycle terms explained in my online Bicycle
Glossary.

See: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

or more specifically: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

Sheldon "Cyclexicographer" Brown
+----------------------------------------+
| Promote the institution of marriage: |
| Make it available to all adults! |
+----------------------------------------+
Harris Cyclery, West Newton, Massachusetts
Phone 617-244-9772 FAX 617-244-1041
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Hard-to-find parts shipped Worldwide
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Old 08-04-2004, 07:09 AM   #60 (permalink)
Sheldon Brown
 
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Re: 7 to 8 Speed

I wrote, in part:
>
>>If you want go to with indexing, you'll also need to replace the shifters.

>

Brad Hubbard asked:
>
> Pardon my ignorance but what's indexing?


"Click shifting."

This is one of hundreds of bicycle terms explained in my online Bicycle
Glossary.

See: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

or more specifically: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

Sheldon "Cyclexicographer" Brown
+----------------------------------------+
| Promote the institution of marriage: |
| Make it available to all adults! |
+----------------------------------------+
Harris Cyclery, West Newton, Massachusetts
Phone 617-244-9772 FAX 617-244-1041
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Hard-to-find parts shipped Worldwide
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