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Old 08-07-2004, 01:20 PM   #11 (permalink)
psycholist
 
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Re: I blew it!


"Roger Zoul" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
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> I went on a metric century today with about 3700+ feet of climbing.
> According to my Polar 720i, that's about 1800 more feet than I normally do
> on 65 miles. Well, the ride as going great. Finally we got to this one
> longish climb...some guy came past me....I decided to follow....I finally
> pasted him back....HR hit 173 (my theoretical max) and stayed there a
> while...I was huffing and puffing...only going about 5 mph or so...but I

got
> that hill. My buddy who was with me at the beginning said I was out of
> sight by the time he got to the top of that hill. He must weigh some 60

lbs
> less than me.
>
> Well, the next time a major hill came...I started having cramps in my left
> quad...the muscle to the left of the knee cap (inner front thigh)...got

off
> and massaged it for a bit...it felt better. Went on...another hill...this
> time it started locking up. Got off...I couldn't bend my leg....it was
> stuck straight....that muscle as hard as a rock...it took about 3 minutes
> before it relaxed. That was at 46 miles. I rode to 50 miles (3400ft of
> ascent) where the next rest stop was. I got in the sag wagon. Dammit.
>
> I must learn to respect the climb. I must find some better climbing
> material, too.
>
>


Hi Roger,

I do the Lance Dance, too. I don't necessarily do that much of it out of
the saddle, but I've worked on my aerobic ability to spin the smaller gears.
That keeps me in the game on the longer climbs. It also saves your legs
when you're doing longer rides.

So how was Tigerville? Sorry I didn't make it up there. Who woulda thought
they could move the date from October to early August and still have the
same Fall weather? I just wasn't up for 4 hours of driving to do a 3 hour
ride. I did 82 miles ... half of that solo and half with an old training
buddy from Anderson. What a glorious morning!

Sorry to hear that you ended up in the sag wagon. Work on using small gears
on those hills. When you mash the big gears, you work your muscles harder
and they give out sooner.

We'll talk more about this.

Bob C.


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Old 08-07-2004, 01:34 PM   #12 (permalink)
Roger Zoul
 
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Re: I blew it!

Bill Baka wrote:
|| On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 15:20:42 -0400, Roger Zoul
|| <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
||
||| I went on a metric century today with about 3700+ feet of climbing.
||| According to my Polar 720i, that's about 1800 more feet than I
||| normally do
||| on 65 miles. Well, the ride as going great. Finally we got to
||| this one longish climb...some guy came past me....I decided to
||| follow....I finally pasted him back....HR hit 173 (my theoretical
||| max) and stayed there a while...I was huffing and puffing...only
||| going about 5 mph or so...but I got
||| that hill. My buddy who was with me at the beginning said I was
||| out of sight by the time he got to the top of that hill. He must
||| weigh some 60 lbs
||| less than me.
|||
||| Well, the next time a major hill came...I started having cramps in
||| my left
||| quad...the muscle to the left of the knee cap (inner front
||| thigh)...got off
||| and massaged it for a bit...it felt better. Went on...another
||| hill...this time it started locking up. Got off...I couldn't bend
||| my leg....it was stuck straight....that muscle as hard as a
||| rock...it took about 3 minutes before it relaxed. That was at 46
||| miles. I rode to 50 miles (3400ft of ascent) where the next rest
||| stop was. I got in the sag wagon. Dammit.
|||
||| I must learn to respect the climb. I must find some better climbing
||| material, too.
|||
|||
|| Were you at least out of the saddle attacking the hill or did you
|| just mash the pedals seated?

I was mashing but I was in the lower gear on the bike. I didn't stand,
though. I was already at my limit, so there wouldn't have been much point
to standing.

|| Doing the 'Lance Dance' gets me up the hills and saves my legs for
|| the straight stuff while getting my heart going a little faster.

I'm not sure what the "Lance Dance" is, sadly.


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Old 08-07-2004, 01:34 PM   #13 (permalink)
Roger Zoul
 
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Re: I blew it!

Bill Baka wrote:
|| On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 15:20:42 -0400, Roger Zoul
|| <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
||
||| I went on a metric century today with about 3700+ feet of climbing.
||| According to my Polar 720i, that's about 1800 more feet than I
||| normally do
||| on 65 miles. Well, the ride as going great. Finally we got to
||| this one longish climb...some guy came past me....I decided to
||| follow....I finally pasted him back....HR hit 173 (my theoretical
||| max) and stayed there a while...I was huffing and puffing...only
||| going about 5 mph or so...but I got
||| that hill. My buddy who was with me at the beginning said I was
||| out of sight by the time he got to the top of that hill. He must
||| weigh some 60 lbs
||| less than me.
|||
||| Well, the next time a major hill came...I started having cramps in
||| my left
||| quad...the muscle to the left of the knee cap (inner front
||| thigh)...got off
||| and massaged it for a bit...it felt better. Went on...another
||| hill...this time it started locking up. Got off...I couldn't bend
||| my leg....it was stuck straight....that muscle as hard as a
||| rock...it took about 3 minutes before it relaxed. That was at 46
||| miles. I rode to 50 miles (3400ft of ascent) where the next rest
||| stop was. I got in the sag wagon. Dammit.
|||
||| I must learn to respect the climb. I must find some better climbing
||| material, too.
|||
|||
|| Were you at least out of the saddle attacking the hill or did you
|| just mash the pedals seated?

I was mashing but I was in the lower gear on the bike. I didn't stand,
though. I was already at my limit, so there wouldn't have been much point
to standing.

|| Doing the 'Lance Dance' gets me up the hills and saves my legs for
|| the straight stuff while getting my heart going a little faster.

I'm not sure what the "Lance Dance" is, sadly.


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Old 08-07-2004, 01:34 PM   #14 (permalink)
Roger Zoul
 
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Re: I blew it!

Bill Baka wrote:
|| On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 15:20:42 -0400, Roger Zoul
|| <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
||
||| I went on a metric century today with about 3700+ feet of climbing.
||| According to my Polar 720i, that's about 1800 more feet than I
||| normally do
||| on 65 miles. Well, the ride as going great. Finally we got to
||| this one longish climb...some guy came past me....I decided to
||| follow....I finally pasted him back....HR hit 173 (my theoretical
||| max) and stayed there a while...I was huffing and puffing...only
||| going about 5 mph or so...but I got
||| that hill. My buddy who was with me at the beginning said I was
||| out of sight by the time he got to the top of that hill. He must
||| weigh some 60 lbs
||| less than me.
|||
||| Well, the next time a major hill came...I started having cramps in
||| my left
||| quad...the muscle to the left of the knee cap (inner front
||| thigh)...got off
||| and massaged it for a bit...it felt better. Went on...another
||| hill...this time it started locking up. Got off...I couldn't bend
||| my leg....it was stuck straight....that muscle as hard as a
||| rock...it took about 3 minutes before it relaxed. That was at 46
||| miles. I rode to 50 miles (3400ft of ascent) where the next rest
||| stop was. I got in the sag wagon. Dammit.
|||
||| I must learn to respect the climb. I must find some better climbing
||| material, too.
|||
|||
|| Were you at least out of the saddle attacking the hill or did you
|| just mash the pedals seated?

I was mashing but I was in the lower gear on the bike. I didn't stand,
though. I was already at my limit, so there wouldn't have been much point
to standing.

|| Doing the 'Lance Dance' gets me up the hills and saves my legs for
|| the straight stuff while getting my heart going a little faster.

I'm not sure what the "Lance Dance" is, sadly.


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Old 08-07-2004, 01:34 PM   #15 (permalink)
Roger Zoul
 
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Re: I blew it!

Bill Baka wrote:
|| On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 15:20:42 -0400, Roger Zoul
|| <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
||
||| I went on a metric century today with about 3700+ feet of climbing.
||| According to my Polar 720i, that's about 1800 more feet than I
||| normally do
||| on 65 miles. Well, the ride as going great. Finally we got to
||| this one longish climb...some guy came past me....I decided to
||| follow....I finally pasted him back....HR hit 173 (my theoretical
||| max) and stayed there a while...I was huffing and puffing...only
||| going about 5 mph or so...but I got
||| that hill. My buddy who was with me at the beginning said I was
||| out of sight by the time he got to the top of that hill. He must
||| weigh some 60 lbs
||| less than me.
|||
||| Well, the next time a major hill came...I started having cramps in
||| my left
||| quad...the muscle to the left of the knee cap (inner front
||| thigh)...got off
||| and massaged it for a bit...it felt better. Went on...another
||| hill...this time it started locking up. Got off...I couldn't bend
||| my leg....it was stuck straight....that muscle as hard as a
||| rock...it took about 3 minutes before it relaxed. That was at 46
||| miles. I rode to 50 miles (3400ft of ascent) where the next rest
||| stop was. I got in the sag wagon. Dammit.
|||
||| I must learn to respect the climb. I must find some better climbing
||| material, too.
|||
|||
|| Were you at least out of the saddle attacking the hill or did you
|| just mash the pedals seated?

I was mashing but I was in the lower gear on the bike. I didn't stand,
though. I was already at my limit, so there wouldn't have been much point
to standing.

|| Doing the 'Lance Dance' gets me up the hills and saves my legs for
|| the straight stuff while getting my heart going a little faster.

I'm not sure what the "Lance Dance" is, sadly.


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Old 08-07-2004, 01:34 PM   #16 (permalink)
Roger Zoul
 
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Re: I blew it!

Bill Baka wrote:
|| On Sat, 7 Aug 2004 15:20:42 -0400, Roger Zoul
|| <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
||
||| I went on a metric century today with about 3700+ feet of climbing.
||| According to my Polar 720i, that's about 1800 more feet than I
||| normally do
||| on 65 miles. Well, the ride as going great. Finally we got to
||| this one longish climb...some guy came past me....I decided to
||| follow....I finally pasted him back....HR hit 173 (my theoretical
||| max) and stayed there a while...I was huffing and puffing...only
||| going about 5 mph or so...but I got
||| that hill. My buddy who was with me at the beginning said I was
||| out of sight by the time he got to the top of that hill. He must
||| weigh some 60 lbs
||| less than me.
|||
||| Well, the next time a major hill came...I started having cramps in
||| my left
||| quad...the muscle to the left of the knee cap (inner front
||| thigh)...got off
||| and massaged it for a bit...it felt better. Went on...another
||| hill...this time it started locking up. Got off...I couldn't bend
||| my leg....it was stuck straight....that muscle as hard as a
||| rock...it took about 3 minutes before it relaxed. That was at 46
||| miles. I rode to 50 miles (3400ft of ascent) where the next rest
||| stop was. I got in the sag wagon. Dammit.
|||
||| I must learn to respect the climb. I must find some better climbing
||| material, too.
|||
|||
|| Were you at least out of the saddle attacking the hill or did you
|| just mash the pedals seated?

I was mashing but I was in the lower gear on the bike. I didn't stand,
though. I was already at my limit, so there wouldn't have been much point
to standing.

|| Doing the 'Lance Dance' gets me up the hills and saves my legs for
|| the straight stuff while getting my heart going a little faster.

I'm not sure what the "Lance Dance" is, sadly.


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Old 08-07-2004, 01:39 PM   #17 (permalink)
Roger Zoul
 
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Re: I blew it!

psycholist wrote:
|| "Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote in message
|| news:10haasfa86bqi83@corp.supernews.com...
||| I went on a metric century today with about 3700+ feet of climbing.
||| According to my Polar 720i, that's about 1800 more feet than I
||| normally do on 65 miles. Well, the ride as going great. Finally
||| we got to this one longish climb...some guy came past me....I
||| decided to follow....I finally pasted him back....HR hit 173 (my
||| theoretical max) and stayed there a while...I was huffing and
||| puffing...only going about 5 mph or so...but I got that hill. My
||| buddy who was with me at the beginning said I was out of sight by
||| the time he got to the top of that hill. He must weigh some 60 lbs
||| less than me.
|||
||| Well, the next time a major hill came...I started having cramps in
||| my left quad...the muscle to the left of the knee cap (inner front
||| thigh)...got off and massaged it for a bit...it felt better. Went
||| on...another hill...this time it started locking up. Got off...I
||| couldn't bend my leg....it was stuck straight....that muscle as
||| hard as a rock...it took about 3 minutes before it relaxed. That
||| was at 46 miles. I rode to 50 miles (3400ft of ascent) where the
||| next rest stop was. I got in the sag wagon. Dammit.
|||
||| I must learn to respect the climb. I must find some better climbing
||| material, too.
|||
|||
||
|| Hi Roger,
||
|| I do the Lance Dance, too. I don't necessarily do that much of it
|| out of the saddle, but I've worked on my aerobic ability to spin the
|| smaller gears. That keeps me in the game on the longer climbs. It
|| also saves your legs when you're doing longer rides.

I was in the smallest gear! Pedal pretty fast, really, even though I don't
recall the cadence.

||
|| So how was Tigerville?

Lovely. Absolutely lovely. I was quite disappointed I didn't complete such
a ride ride on such a beautiful day with such lovely scenery.

Sorry I didn't make it up there. Who woulda
|| thought they could move the date from October to early August and
|| still have the same Fall weather?

I was all set to be unhappy about them moving the date, but they apparently
put in a special order for fantastic weather.


I just wasn't up for 4 hours of
|| driving to do a 3 hour ride. I did 82 miles ... half of that solo
|| and half with an old training buddy from Anderson. What a glorious
|| morning!
||

Wow. This would have been a cakewake for you.

|| Sorry to hear that you ended up in the sag wagon. Work on using
|| small gears on those hills. When you mash the big gears, you work
|| your muscles harder and they give out sooner.

I've got a lot of stuff to work on, it would seem!

||
|| We'll talk more about this.
||

Yes, let's do, as I need some work!


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Old 08-07-2004, 01:39 PM   #18 (permalink)
Roger Zoul
 
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Re: I blew it!

psycholist wrote:
|| "Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote in message
|| news:10haasfa86bqi83@corp.supernews.com...
||| I went on a metric century today with about 3700+ feet of climbing.
||| According to my Polar 720i, that's about 1800 more feet than I
||| normally do on 65 miles. Well, the ride as going great. Finally
||| we got to this one longish climb...some guy came past me....I
||| decided to follow....I finally pasted him back....HR hit 173 (my
||| theoretical max) and stayed there a while...I was huffing and
||| puffing...only going about 5 mph or so...but I got that hill. My
||| buddy who was with me at the beginning said I was out of sight by
||| the time he got to the top of that hill. He must weigh some 60 lbs
||| less than me.
|||
||| Well, the next time a major hill came...I started having cramps in
||| my left quad...the muscle to the left of the knee cap (inner front
||| thigh)...got off and massaged it for a bit...it felt better. Went
||| on...another hill...this time it started locking up. Got off...I
||| couldn't bend my leg....it was stuck straight....that muscle as
||| hard as a rock...it took about 3 minutes before it relaxed. That
||| was at 46 miles. I rode to 50 miles (3400ft of ascent) where the
||| next rest stop was. I got in the sag wagon. Dammit.
|||
||| I must learn to respect the climb. I must find some better climbing
||| material, too.
|||
|||
||
|| Hi Roger,
||
|| I do the Lance Dance, too. I don't necessarily do that much of it
|| out of the saddle, but I've worked on my aerobic ability to spin the
|| smaller gears. That keeps me in the game on the longer climbs. It
|| also saves your legs when you're doing longer rides.

I was in the smallest gear! Pedal pretty fast, really, even though I don't
recall the cadence.

||
|| So how was Tigerville?

Lovely. Absolutely lovely. I was quite disappointed I didn't complete such
a ride ride on such a beautiful day with such lovely scenery.

Sorry I didn't make it up there. Who woulda
|| thought they could move the date from October to early August and
|| still have the same Fall weather?

I was all set to be unhappy about them moving the date, but they apparently
put in a special order for fantastic weather.


I just wasn't up for 4 hours of
|| driving to do a 3 hour ride. I did 82 miles ... half of that solo
|| and half with an old training buddy from Anderson. What a glorious
|| morning!
||

Wow. This would have been a cakewake for you.

|| Sorry to hear that you ended up in the sag wagon. Work on using
|| small gears on those hills. When you mash the big gears, you work
|| your muscles harder and they give out sooner.

I've got a lot of stuff to work on, it would seem!

||
|| We'll talk more about this.
||

Yes, let's do, as I need some work!


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Old 08-07-2004, 01:39 PM   #19 (permalink)
Roger Zoul
 
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Re: I blew it!

psycholist wrote:
|| "Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote in message
|| news:10haasfa86bqi83@corp.supernews.com...
||| I went on a metric century today with about 3700+ feet of climbing.
||| According to my Polar 720i, that's about 1800 more feet than I
||| normally do on 65 miles. Well, the ride as going great. Finally
||| we got to this one longish climb...some guy came past me....I
||| decided to follow....I finally pasted him back....HR hit 173 (my
||| theoretical max) and stayed there a while...I was huffing and
||| puffing...only going about 5 mph or so...but I got that hill. My
||| buddy who was with me at the beginning said I was out of sight by
||| the time he got to the top of that hill. He must weigh some 60 lbs
||| less than me.
|||
||| Well, the next time a major hill came...I started having cramps in
||| my left quad...the muscle to the left of the knee cap (inner front
||| thigh)...got off and massaged it for a bit...it felt better. Went
||| on...another hill...this time it started locking up. Got off...I
||| couldn't bend my leg....it was stuck straight....that muscle as
||| hard as a rock...it took about 3 minutes before it relaxed. That
||| was at 46 miles. I rode to 50 miles (3400ft of ascent) where the
||| next rest stop was. I got in the sag wagon. Dammit.
|||
||| I must learn to respect the climb. I must find some better climbing
||| material, too.
|||
|||
||
|| Hi Roger,
||
|| I do the Lance Dance, too. I don't necessarily do that much of it
|| out of the saddle, but I've worked on my aerobic ability to spin the
|| smaller gears. That keeps me in the game on the longer climbs. It
|| also saves your legs when you're doing longer rides.

I was in the smallest gear! Pedal pretty fast, really, even though I don't
recall the cadence.

||
|| So how was Tigerville?

Lovely. Absolutely lovely. I was quite disappointed I didn't complete such
a ride ride on such a beautiful day with such lovely scenery.

Sorry I didn't make it up there. Who woulda
|| thought they could move the date from October to early August and
|| still have the same Fall weather?

I was all set to be unhappy about them moving the date, but they apparently
put in a special order for fantastic weather.


I just wasn't up for 4 hours of
|| driving to do a 3 hour ride. I did 82 miles ... half of that solo
|| and half with an old training buddy from Anderson. What a glorious
|| morning!
||

Wow. This would have been a cakewake for you.

|| Sorry to hear that you ended up in the sag wagon. Work on using
|| small gears on those hills. When you mash the big gears, you work
|| your muscles harder and they give out sooner.

I've got a lot of stuff to work on, it would seem!

||
|| We'll talk more about this.
||

Yes, let's do, as I need some work!


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Old 08-07-2004, 01:39 PM   #20 (permalink)
Roger Zoul
 
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psycholist wrote:
|| "Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote in message
|| news:10haasfa86bqi83@corp.supernews.com...
||| I went on a metric century today with about 3700+ feet of climbing.
||| According to my Polar 720i, that's about 1800 more feet than I
||| normally do on 65 miles. Well, the ride as going great. Finally
||| we got to this one longish climb...some guy came past me....I
||| decided to follow....I finally pasted him back....HR hit 173 (my
||| theoretical max) and stayed there a while...I was huffing and
||| puffing...only going about 5 mph or so...but I got that hill. My
||| buddy who was with me at the beginning said I was out of sight by
||| the time he got to the top of that hill. He must weigh some 60 lbs
||| less than me.
|||
||| Well, the next time a major hill came...I started having cramps in
||| my left quad...the muscle to the left of the knee cap (inner front
||| thigh)...got off and massaged it for a bit...it felt better. Went
||| on...another hill...this time it started locking up. Got off...I
||| couldn't bend my leg....it was stuck straight....that muscle as
||| hard as a rock...it took about 3 minutes before it relaxed. That
||| was at 46 miles. I rode to 50 miles (3400ft of ascent) where the
||| next rest stop was. I got in the sag wagon. Dammit.
|||
||| I must learn to respect the climb. I must find some better climbing
||| material, too.
|||
|||
||
|| Hi Roger,
||
|| I do the Lance Dance, too. I don't necessarily do that much of it
|| out of the saddle, but I've worked on my aerobic ability to spin the
|| smaller gears. That keeps me in the game on the longer climbs. It
|| also saves your legs when you're doing longer rides.

I was in the smallest gear! Pedal pretty fast, really, even though I don't
recall the cadence.

||
|| So how was Tigerville?

Lovely. Absolutely lovely. I was quite disappointed I didn't complete such
a ride ride on such a beautiful day with such lovely scenery.

Sorry I didn't make it up there. Who woulda
|| thought they could move the date from October to early August and
|| still have the same Fall weather?

I was all set to be unhappy about them moving the date, but they apparently
put in a special order for fantastic weather.


I just wasn't up for 4 hours of
|| driving to do a 3 hour ride. I did 82 miles ... half of that solo
|| and half with an old training buddy from Anderson. What a glorious
|| morning!
||

Wow. This would have been a cakewake for you.

|| Sorry to hear that you ended up in the sag wagon. Work on using
|| small gears on those hills. When you mash the big gears, you work
|| your muscles harder and they give out sooner.

I've got a lot of stuff to work on, it would seem!

||
|| We'll talk more about this.
||

Yes, let's do, as I need some work!


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