A little understanding, please

08-17-2004, 01:29 PM

I've been reading this group for some time, and I've found it to be normally
friendly and informative.

Of late, however, it seems to be suffering from the attentions of a rather
troubled individual calling himself "DRS". I have avoided saying anything so
far, because I thought that the matter would die out in its own time, but I see
he is posting again, so I would like to offer a little insight into his
condition in the hope that it will enable people people to let him be. My only
qualification for offering these insights is that I work with children with
special needs, and I recognize the particular problem this poster has.

There is no way that anyone is going to make any progress, such is his
delusional mentality.

What you must realize if that he does not see the world as normal people see it.
He is quite obsessed with a relatively trivial annoyance: "top posting", and for
him it is like a holy crusade. Although he has, in this instance mistaken a
quite innocent posting of an article, it is just the same to him as if it was a
genuine top posting incident, and in his mind he sees himself as some of hero,
some crusader who must defeat a great evil. Once he has latched onto that which
he detests, he is quite immune to reason.

In his mind, all the people who read and post to rbm naturally agree with him,
and only a very few "idiots" post disputing what to him is obviously clearly
correct. He has learned the expression "argumentum ad numerum", which he uses,
completely incorrectly to support his fallacious stances. It is interesting to
note that although utterly obsessed with top posting, and the need to "obey the
rule" (even though there is no "rule" as such"), he is quite happy to post
obscenities in a ng which could very easily have an audience of minors.

Even when forced into a corner by a poster who analyses all his errors, and
explains them clearly and consisely, he is not fazed. He simply states "wrong"
after each point made, presumably in the (quite absurd) belief that this will
somehow answer logically constructed arguments, and demonstrable truths.

So, please, realize that you are not going to get anywhere with this sad and
disturbed individual. I don't doubt he'll reply to this post with his usual
spurious nonesense, and will be quite happy that in doing so he has vindicated
himself once again (which is how he sees his asinine responses).

I suggest we just leave him to it.

Andy

08-17-2004, 02:28 PM

Who cares what he says

>, which he uses,
>completely incorrectly to support his fallacious stances. It is interesting
>to
>note that although utterly obsessed with top posting, and the need to "obey
>the
>rule" (even though there is no "rule" as such"), he is quite happy to post
>obscenities in a ng which could very easily have an audience of minors.
>
>Even when forced into a corner by a poster who analyses all his errors, and
>explains them clearly and consisely, he is not fazed. He simply states
>"wrong"
>after each point made, presumably in the (quite absurd) belief that this will
>somehow answer logically constructed arguments, and demonstrable truths.
>
>So, please, realize that you are not going to get anywhere with this sad and
>disturbed individual. I don't doubt he'll reply to this post with his usual
>spurious nonesense, and will be quite happy that in doing so he has
>vindicated
>himself once again (which is how he sees his asinine responses).
>
>I suggest we just leave him to it.
>
>
>Andy
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

08-17-2004, 02:28 PM

Who cares what he says

>, which he uses,
>completely incorrectly to support his fallacious stances. It is interesting
>to
>note that although utterly obsessed with top posting, and the need to "obey
>the
>rule" (even though there is no "rule" as such"), he is quite happy to post
>obscenities in a ng which could very easily have an audience of minors.
>
>Even when forced into a corner by a poster who analyses all his errors, and
>explains them clearly and consisely, he is not fazed. He simply states
>"wrong"
>after each point made, presumably in the (quite absurd) belief that this will
>somehow answer logically constructed arguments, and demonstrable truths.
>
>So, please, realize that you are not going to get anywhere with this sad and
>disturbed individual. I don't doubt he'll reply to this post with his usual
>spurious nonesense, and will be quite happy that in doing so he has
>vindicated
>himself once again (which is how he sees his asinine responses).
>
>I suggest we just leave him to it.
>
>
>Andy
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

08-17-2004, 02:28 PM

Who cares what he says

>, which he uses,
>completely incorrectly to support his fallacious stances. It is interesting
>to
>note that although utterly obsessed with top posting, and the need to "obey
>the
>rule" (even though there is no "rule" as such"), he is quite happy to post
>obscenities in a ng which could very easily have an audience of minors.
>
>Even when forced into a corner by a poster who analyses all his errors, and
>explains them clearly and consisely, he is not fazed. He simply states
>"wrong"
>after each point made, presumably in the (quite absurd) belief that this will
>somehow answer logically constructed arguments, and demonstrable truths.
>
>So, please, realize that you are not going to get anywhere with this sad and
>disturbed individual. I don't doubt he'll reply to this post with his usual
>spurious nonesense, and will be quite happy that in doing so he has
>vindicated
>himself once again (which is how he sees his asinine responses).
>
>I suggest we just leave him to it.
>
>
>Andy
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

08-17-2004, 02:28 PM

Who cares what he says

>, which he uses,
>completely incorrectly to support his fallacious stances. It is interesting
>to
>note that although utterly obsessed with top posting, and the need to "obey
>the
>rule" (even though there is no "rule" as such"), he is quite happy to post
>obscenities in a ng which could very easily have an audience of minors.
>
>Even when forced into a corner by a poster who analyses all his errors, and
>explains them clearly and consisely, he is not fazed. He simply states
>"wrong"
>after each point made, presumably in the (quite absurd) belief that this will
>somehow answer logically constructed arguments, and demonstrable truths.
>
>So, please, realize that you are not going to get anywhere with this sad and
>disturbed individual. I don't doubt he'll reply to this post with his usual
>spurious nonesense, and will be quite happy that in doing so he has
>vindicated
>himself once again (which is how he sees his asinine responses).
>
>I suggest we just leave him to it.
>
>
>Andy
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

08-17-2004, 11:56 PM

Fx199 wrote:
> Who cares what he says
>
>
>> , which he uses,
>> completely incorrectly to support his fallacious stances. It is
>> interesting to
>> note that although utterly obsessed with top posting, and the need
>> to "obey the
>> rule" (even though there is no "rule" as such"), he is quite happy
>> to post obscenities in a ng which could very easily have an audience
>> of minors.
>>
>> Even when forced into a corner by a poster who analyses all his
>> errors, and explains them clearly and consisely, he is not fazed. He
>> simply states "wrong"
>> after each point made, presumably in the (quite absurd) belief that
>> this will somehow answer logically constructed arguments, and
>> demonstrable truths.
>>
>> So, please, realize that you are not going to get anywhere with this
>> sad and disturbed individual. I don't doubt he'll reply to this post
>> with his usual spurious nonesense, and will be quite happy that in
>> doing so he has vindicated
>> himself once again (which is how he sees his asinine responses).
>>
>> I suggest we just leave him to it.
>>
>>
>> Andy

To really piss him off you should have left the entire original article
untrimmed, like this: :-D

Andy Simmonds wrote:
> I've been reading this group for some time, and I've found it to be
> normally friendly and informative.
>
> Of late, however, it seems to be suffering from the attentions of a
> rather troubled individual calling himself "DRS". I have avoided
> saying anything so far, because I thought that the matter would die
> out in its own time, but I see he is posting again, so I would like
> to offer a little insight into his condition in the hope that it will
> enable people people to let him be. My only qualification for
> offering these insights is that I work with children with special
> needs, and I recognize the particular problem this poster has.
>
> There is no way that anyone is going to make any progress, such is his
> delusional mentality.
>
> What you must realize if that he does not see the world as normal
> people see it. He is quite obsessed with a relatively trivial
> annoyance: "top posting", and for him it is like a holy crusade.
> Although he has, in this instance mistaken a quite innocent posting
> of an article, it is just the same to him as if it was a genuine top
> posting incident, and in his mind he sees himself as some of hero,
> some crusader who must defeat a great evil. Once he has latched onto
> that which he detests, he is quite immune to reason.
>
> In his mind, all the people who read and post to rbm naturally agree
> with him, and only a very few "idiots" post disputing what to him is
> obviously clearly correct. He has learned the expression "argumentum
> ad numerum", which he uses, completely incorrectly to support his
> fallacious stances. It is interesting to note that although utterly
> obsessed with top posting, and the need to "obey the rule" (even
> though there is no "rule" as such"), he is quite happy to post
> obscenities in a ng which could very easily have an audience of
> minors.
>
> Even when forced into a corner by a poster who analyses all his
> errors, and explains them clearly and consisely, he is not fazed. He
> simply states "wrong" after each point made, presumably in the (quite
> absurd) belief that this will somehow answer logically constructed
> arguments, and demonstrable truths.
>
> So, please, realize that you are not going to get anywhere with this
> sad and disturbed individual. I don't doubt he'll reply to this post
> with his usual spurious nonesense, and will be quite happy that in
> doing so he has vindicated himself once again (which is how he sees
> his asinine responses).
>
> I suggest we just leave him to it.
>
>
> Andy

Guy
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08-17-2004, 11:56 PM

Fx199 wrote:
> Who cares what he says
>
>
>> , which he uses,
>> completely incorrectly to support his fallacious stances. It is
>> interesting to
>> note that although utterly obsessed with top posting, and the need
>> to "obey the
>> rule" (even though there is no "rule" as such"), he is quite happy
>> to post obscenities in a ng which could very easily have an audience
>> of minors.
>>
>> Even when forced into a corner by a poster who analyses all his
>> errors, and explains them clearly and consisely, he is not fazed. He
>> simply states "wrong"
>> after each point made, presumably in the (quite absurd) belief that
>> this will somehow answer logically constructed arguments, and
>> demonstrable truths.
>>
>> So, please, realize that you are not going to get anywhere with this
>> sad and disturbed individual. I don't doubt he'll reply to this post
>> with his usual spurious nonesense, and will be quite happy that in
>> doing so he has vindicated
>> himself once again (which is how he sees his asinine responses).
>>
>> I suggest we just leave him to it.
>>
>>
>> Andy

To really piss him off you should have left the entire original article
untrimmed, like this: :-D

Andy Simmonds wrote:
> I've been reading this group for some time, and I've found it to be
> normally friendly and informative.
>
> Of late, however, it seems to be suffering from the attentions of a
> rather troubled individual calling himself "DRS". I have avoided
> saying anything so far, because I thought that the matter would die
> out in its own time, but I see he is posting again, so I would like
> to offer a little insight into his condition in the hope that it will
> enable people people to let him be. My only qualification for
> offering these insights is that I work with children with special
> needs, and I recognize the particular problem this poster has.
>
> There is no way that anyone is going to make any progress, such is his
> delusional mentality.
>
> What you must realize if that he does not see the world as normal
> people see it. He is quite obsessed with a relatively trivial
> annoyance: "top posting", and for him it is like a holy crusade.
> Although he has, in this instance mistaken a quite innocent posting
> of an article, it is just the same to him as if it was a genuine top
> posting incident, and in his mind he sees himself as some of hero,
> some crusader who must defeat a great evil. Once he has latched onto
> that which he detests, he is quite immune to reason.
>
> In his mind, all the people who read and post to rbm naturally agree
> with him, and only a very few "idiots" post disputing what to him is
> obviously clearly correct. He has learned the expression "argumentum
> ad numerum", which he uses, completely incorrectly to support his
> fallacious stances. It is interesting to note that although utterly
> obsessed with top posting, and the need to "obey the rule" (even
> though there is no "rule" as such"), he is quite happy to post
> obscenities in a ng which could very easily have an audience of
> minors.
>
> Even when forced into a corner by a poster who analyses all his
> errors, and explains them clearly and consisely, he is not fazed. He
> simply states "wrong" after each point made, presumably in the (quite
> absurd) belief that this will somehow answer logically constructed
> arguments, and demonstrable truths.
>
> So, please, realize that you are not going to get anywhere with this
> sad and disturbed individual. I don't doubt he'll reply to this post
> with his usual spurious nonesense, and will be quite happy that in
> doing so he has vindicated himself once again (which is how he sees
> his asinine responses).
>
> I suggest we just leave him to it.
>
>
> Andy

Guy
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88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington
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08-17-2004, 11:56 PM

Fx199 wrote:
> Who cares what he says
>
>
>> , which he uses,
>> completely incorrectly to support his fallacious stances. It is
>> interesting to
>> note that although utterly obsessed with top posting, and the need
>> to "obey the
>> rule" (even though there is no "rule" as such"), he is quite happy
>> to post obscenities in a ng which could very easily have an audience
>> of minors.
>>
>> Even when forced into a corner by a poster who analyses all his
>> errors, and explains them clearly and consisely, he is not fazed. He
>> simply states "wrong"
>> after each point made, presumably in the (quite absurd) belief that
>> this will somehow answer logically constructed arguments, and
>> demonstrable truths.
>>
>> So, please, realize that you are not going to get anywhere with this
>> sad and disturbed individual. I don't doubt he'll reply to this post
>> with his usual spurious nonesense, and will be quite happy that in
>> doing so he has vindicated
>> himself once again (which is how he sees his asinine responses).
>>
>> I suggest we just leave him to it.
>>
>>
>> Andy

To really piss him off you should have left the entire original article
untrimmed, like this: :-D

Andy Simmonds wrote:
> I've been reading this group for some time, and I've found it to be
> normally friendly and informative.
>
> Of late, however, it seems to be suffering from the attentions of a
> rather troubled individual calling himself "DRS". I have avoided
> saying anything so far, because I thought that the matter would die
> out in its own time, but I see he is posting again, so I would like
> to offer a little insight into his condition in the hope that it will
> enable people people to let him be. My only qualification for
> offering these insights is that I work with children with special
> needs, and I recognize the particular problem this poster has.
>
> There is no way that anyone is going to make any progress, such is his
> delusional mentality.
>
> What you must realize if that he does not see the world as normal
> people see it. He is quite obsessed with a relatively trivial
> annoyance: "top posting", and for him it is like a holy crusade.
> Although he has, in this instance mistaken a quite innocent posting
> of an article, it is just the same to him as if it was a genuine top
> posting incident, and in his mind he sees himself as some of hero,
> some crusader who must defeat a great evil. Once he has latched onto
> that which he detests, he is quite immune to reason.
>
> In his mind, all the people who read and post to rbm naturally agree
> with him, and only a very few "idiots" post disputing what to him is
> obviously clearly correct. He has learned the expression "argumentum
> ad numerum", which he uses, completely incorrectly to support his
> fallacious stances. It is interesting to note that although utterly
> obsessed with top posting, and the need to "obey the rule" (even
> though there is no "rule" as such"), he is quite happy to post
> obscenities in a ng which could very easily have an audience of
> minors.
>
> Even when forced into a corner by a poster who analyses all his
> errors, and explains them clearly and consisely, he is not fazed. He
> simply states "wrong" after each point made, presumably in the (quite
> absurd) belief that this will somehow answer logically constructed
> arguments, and demonstrable truths.
>
> So, please, realize that you are not going to get anywhere with this
> sad and disturbed individual. I don't doubt he'll reply to this post
> with his usual spurious nonesense, and will be quite happy that in
> doing so he has vindicated himself once again (which is how he sees
> his asinine responses).
>
> I suggest we just leave him to it.
>
>
> Andy

Guy
--
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88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington
University

08-17-2004, 11:56 PM

Fx199 wrote:
> Who cares what he says
>
>
>> , which he uses,
>> completely incorrectly to support his fallacious stances. It is
>> interesting to
>> note that although utterly obsessed with top posting, and the need
>> to "obey the
>> rule" (even though there is no "rule" as such"), he is quite happy
>> to post obscenities in a ng which could very easily have an audience
>> of minors.
>>
>> Even when forced into a corner by a poster who analyses all his
>> errors, and explains them clearly and consisely, he is not fazed. He
>> simply states "wrong"
>> after each point made, presumably in the (quite absurd) belief that
>> this will somehow answer logically constructed arguments, and
>> demonstrable truths.
>>
>> So, please, realize that you are not going to get anywhere with this
>> sad and disturbed individual. I don't doubt he'll reply to this post
>> with his usual spurious nonesense, and will be quite happy that in
>> doing so he has vindicated
>> himself once again (which is how he sees his asinine responses).
>>
>> I suggest we just leave him to it.
>>
>>
>> Andy

To really piss him off you should have left the entire original article
untrimmed, like this: :-D

Andy Simmonds wrote:
> I've been reading this group for some time, and I've found it to be
> normally friendly and informative.
>
> Of late, however, it seems to be suffering from the attentions of a
> rather troubled individual calling himself "DRS". I have avoided
> saying anything so far, because I thought that the matter would die
> out in its own time, but I see he is posting again, so I would like
> to offer a little insight into his condition in the hope that it will
> enable people people to let him be. My only qualification for
> offering these insights is that I work with children with special
> needs, and I recognize the particular problem this poster has.
>
> There is no way that anyone is going to make any progress, such is his
> delusional mentality.
>
> What you must realize if that he does not see the world as normal
> people see it. He is quite obsessed with a relatively trivial
> annoyance: "top posting", and for him it is like a holy crusade.
> Although he has, in this instance mistaken a quite innocent posting
> of an article, it is just the same to him as if it was a genuine top
> posting incident, and in his mind he sees himself as some of hero,
> some crusader who must defeat a great evil. Once he has latched onto
> that which he detests, he is quite immune to reason.
>
> In his mind, all the people who read and post to rbm naturally agree
> with him, and only a very few "idiots" post disputing what to him is
> obviously clearly correct. He has learned the expression "argumentum
> ad numerum", which he uses, completely incorrectly to support his
> fallacious stances. It is interesting to note that although utterly
> obsessed with top posting, and the need to "obey the rule" (even
> though there is no "rule" as such"), he is quite happy to post
> obscenities in a ng which could very easily have an audience of
> minors.
>
> Even when forced into a corner by a poster who analyses all his
> errors, and explains them clearly and consisely, he is not fazed. He
> simply states "wrong" after each point made, presumably in the (quite
> absurd) belief that this will somehow answer logically constructed
> arguments, and demonstrable truths.
>
> So, please, realize that you are not going to get anywhere with this
> sad and disturbed individual. I don't doubt he'll reply to this post
> with his usual spurious nonesense, and will be quite happy that in
> doing so he has vindicated himself once again (which is how he sees
> his asinine responses).
>
> I suggest we just leave him to it.
>
>
> Andy

Guy
--
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88% of helmet statistics are made up, 65% of them at Washington
University

08-18-2004, 02:53 AM

"Andy Simmonds" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].uk
> I've been reading this group for some time, and I've found it to be
> normally friendly and informative.
>
> Of late, however, it seems to be suffering from the attentions of a
> rather troubled individual calling himself "DRS". I have avoided
> saying anything so far, because I thought that the matter would die
> out in its own time,

It had until you chimed in.

> but I see he is posting again, so I would like
> to offer a little insight into his condition in the hope that it will
> enable people people to let him be. My only qualification for
> offering these insights is that I work with children with special
> needs, and I recognize the particular problem this poster has.

Correction: you are a child with special needs.

> There is no way that anyone is going to make any progress, such is his
> delusional mentality.
>
> What you must realize if that he does not see the world as normal
> people see it. He is quite obsessed with a relatively trivial
> annoyance: "top posting", and for him it is like a holy crusade.

Wrong. You don't have the slightest evidence to show that. I called out
one person. That's it. What you do have is evidence that I won't be
bullied into backing down on a subject where I am incontrovertably right.

> Although he has, in this instance mistaken a quite innocent posting
> of an article, it is just the same to him as if it was a genuine top
> posting incident, and in his mind he sees himself as some of hero,
> some crusader who must defeat a great evil. Once he has latched onto
> that which he detests, he is quite immune to reason.

Wrong. I'm always amenable to reason. If you tried using it I might even
be amenable to one of your arguments instead of treating your present
attempt with the utter contempt it deserves.

> In his mind, all the people who read and post to rbm naturally agree
> with him, and only a very few "idiots" post disputing what to him is
> obviously clearly correct. He has learned the expression "argumentum
> ad numerum", which he uses, completely incorrectly to support his
> fallacious stances.

Don't use jargon you don't understand. I have correctly identified that
fallacy several times. That people keep repeating that particular error
even after I've pointed it out to them so many times is indicative of their
stupidity. That you think I used is wrongly is indicative of yours.

> It is interesting to note that although utterly
> obsessed with top posting,

Wrong. Already done and dealt with.

> and the need to "obey the rule" (even
> though there is no "rule" as such"), he is quite happy to post
> obscenities in a ng which could very easily have an audience of
> minors.

What possible relationship does one have with the other? Anyway, I didn't
start the abuse but I'm quite happy to send it back with interest. Of
course, I don't see you saying anything to or about those who did start the
abuse. That would take integrity and you have none.

> Even when forced into a corner by a poster who analyses all his
> errors, and explains them clearly and consisely, he is not fazed.

That hasn't happened on this subject. There's just a few twits like
yourself saying bugger all with lots and lots of words.

> He
> simply states "wrong" after each point made, presumably in the (quite
> absurd) belief that this will somehow answer logically constructed
> arguments, and demonstrable truths.

I'm not going to keep repeating the same old refutations. You seem to be
referring to that fool Doug Evans. What a tosser! He wouldn't know reason
if it leapt up and bit him. Much like you, in fact.

> So, please, realize that you are not going to get anywhere with this
> sad and disturbed individual. I don't doubt he'll reply to this post
> with his usual spurious nonesense, and will be quite happy that in
> doing so he has vindicated himself once again (which is how he sees
> his asinine responses).

Just crawl back under your rock and lick your wounds.

> I suggest we just leave him to it.

Liar. You only posted this **** because the other two threads had died
down.

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