Track cycling question - Page 15 - Cycling Mob: Road Cycling, Mountain Biking and More

08-24-2004, 08:17 PM

"David L. Johnson" <david.johnson@lehigh.edu> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 22:53:46 +0000, Mike Murray wrote:
>
> > What I do think is unacceptable is falling down because of a pulled
> > foot. I have pulled a foot 3 times in mass start track races; once from
> > a broken cleat and twice because I was struck by another rider and the
> > hit twisted my foot out. Just relaxing the other leg and sitting down
> > will keep you upright. Falling because of a single pulled foot is
> > generally a variation of the "I forgot to keep pedaling" problem where
> > the leg that is still on the pedal is kept stiff and the rider gets
> > pitched over the bars.
>

Very very seldom does the "I forgot to pedal" syndrome result in being
pitched over the bars.

08-25-2004, 08:13 AM

In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>,
"David L. Johnson" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

> On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 22:53:46 +0000, Mike Murray wrote:
>
> > "Ronaldo Jeremiah" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
> >> I know some will disagree, but the fact is that clipless pedals should
> >> not even be permitted on the track in mass start events. They are
> >> dangerous. Pulling out of your pedals is as dumb as rolling a tire
> >> because you didn't glue it right. It's 100% unacceptable.
>
> I have to agree with the sentiment. My experience is that most pull-outs
> of clipless pedals are worn Look cleats. Maybe avoiding them is the
> issue.
>
> >In addition, as I said in my previous note, I am not so
> > sure that clips and staps are less likely than other systems to pull out.
>
> I disagree. Double-straps are almost foolproof. Single straps will allow
> pullout, but decent cleats and double straps are very secure.

It should be noted that there are pedal designs where an upward pull
_cannot_ release the cleat, only a twist. Egg Beaters are one example.

--
Ryan Cousineau, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Verus de parvis; verus de magnis.

08-25-2004, 08:13 AM

In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>,
"David L. Johnson" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

> On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 22:53:46 +0000, Mike Murray wrote:
>
> > "Ronaldo Jeremiah" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
> >> I know some will disagree, but the fact is that clipless pedals should
> >> not even be permitted on the track in mass start events. They are
> >> dangerous. Pulling out of your pedals is as dumb as rolling a tire
> >> because you didn't glue it right. It's 100% unacceptable.
>
> I have to agree with the sentiment. My experience is that most pull-outs
> of clipless pedals are worn Look cleats. Maybe avoiding them is the
> issue.
>
> >In addition, as I said in my previous note, I am not so
> > sure that clips and staps are less likely than other systems to pull out.
>
> I disagree. Double-straps are almost foolproof. Single straps will allow
> pullout, but decent cleats and double straps are very secure.

It should be noted that there are pedal designs where an upward pull
_cannot_ release the cleat, only a twist. Egg Beaters are one example.

--
Ryan Cousineau, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Verus de parvis; verus de magnis.

08-25-2004, 08:13 AM

In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>,
"David L. Johnson" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

> On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 22:53:46 +0000, Mike Murray wrote:
>
> > "Ronaldo Jeremiah" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
> >> I know some will disagree, but the fact is that clipless pedals should
> >> not even be permitted on the track in mass start events. They are
> >> dangerous. Pulling out of your pedals is as dumb as rolling a tire
> >> because you didn't glue it right. It's 100% unacceptable.
>
> I have to agree with the sentiment. My experience is that most pull-outs
> of clipless pedals are worn Look cleats. Maybe avoiding them is the
> issue.
>
> >In addition, as I said in my previous note, I am not so
> > sure that clips and staps are less likely than other systems to pull out.
>
> I disagree. Double-straps are almost foolproof. Single straps will allow
> pullout, but decent cleats and double straps are very secure.

It should be noted that there are pedal designs where an upward pull
_cannot_ release the cleat, only a twist. Egg Beaters are one example.

--
Ryan Cousineau, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Verus de parvis; verus de magnis.

08-25-2004, 08:13 AM

In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>,
"David L. Johnson" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

> On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 22:53:46 +0000, Mike Murray wrote:
>
> > "Ronaldo Jeremiah" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
> >> I know some will disagree, but the fact is that clipless pedals should
> >> not even be permitted on the track in mass start events. They are
> >> dangerous. Pulling out of your pedals is as dumb as rolling a tire
> >> because you didn't glue it right. It's 100% unacceptable.
>
> I have to agree with the sentiment. My experience is that most pull-outs
> of clipless pedals are worn Look cleats. Maybe avoiding them is the
> issue.
>
> >In addition, as I said in my previous note, I am not so
> > sure that clips and staps are less likely than other systems to pull out.
>
> I disagree. Double-straps are almost foolproof. Single straps will allow
> pullout, but decent cleats and double straps are very secure.

It should be noted that there are pedal designs where an upward pull
_cannot_ release the cleat, only a twist. Egg Beaters are one example.

--
Ryan Cousineau, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Verus de parvis; verus de magnis.