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Old 08-25-2004, 08:09 PM   #11 (permalink)
Zoot Katz
 
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Re: New bike!

Wed, 25 Aug 2004 22:42:50 GMT,
<KB8Xc.171275$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com>, the black rose
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>I rode it. It disappeared out from under me. I fell in love.
>
>I gots me a new bike. YAAAAAAY!
>
>[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>
>One note: the shifters/brake levers are Record, not Centaur. They said
>it wasn't supposed to come that way, but it did. For the same price.
>

Excellent. You were wise to not complain!

>I replaced the men's saddle it had for a Terry Butterfly (the nicer
>model with titanium rails).
>

Considering the different riding positions, I hope it works as well
for you on this bike as it does for your 'winter' bike.

>If I replaced the suspension seatpost and the adjustable stem with
>lighter counterparts, I could get it down to about 18 lbs. As it is,
>it's just over 19 lbs.
>

After you figure out where you want your stem, you seldom adjust it.
If you don't like the suspension post you can replace it.
What pedals did you get?

>I've never had a bike that fit me like this. It is SO sweet. I am
>really, really liking this.


I noticed the page says P,S,M,L,XL for sizes. The page with the
geometry and measurements doesn't list the "P" size which I'm assuming
means "petite". Is that what you got?
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Old 08-25-2004, 08:09 PM   #12 (permalink)
Zoot Katz
 
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Re: New bike!

Wed, 25 Aug 2004 22:42:50 GMT,
<KB8Xc.171275$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com>, the black rose
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>I rode it. It disappeared out from under me. I fell in love.
>
>I gots me a new bike. YAAAAAAY!
>
>[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>
>One note: the shifters/brake levers are Record, not Centaur. They said
>it wasn't supposed to come that way, but it did. For the same price.
>

Excellent. You were wise to not complain!

>I replaced the men's saddle it had for a Terry Butterfly (the nicer
>model with titanium rails).
>

Considering the different riding positions, I hope it works as well
for you on this bike as it does for your 'winter' bike.

>If I replaced the suspension seatpost and the adjustable stem with
>lighter counterparts, I could get it down to about 18 lbs. As it is,
>it's just over 19 lbs.
>

After you figure out where you want your stem, you seldom adjust it.
If you don't like the suspension post you can replace it.
What pedals did you get?

>I've never had a bike that fit me like this. It is SO sweet. I am
>really, really liking this.


I noticed the page says P,S,M,L,XL for sizes. The page with the
geometry and measurements doesn't list the "P" size which I'm assuming
means "petite". Is that what you got?
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zk
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Old 08-25-2004, 08:09 PM   #13 (permalink)
Zoot Katz
 
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Re: New bike!

Wed, 25 Aug 2004 22:42:50 GMT,
<KB8Xc.171275$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com>, the black rose
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>I rode it. It disappeared out from under me. I fell in love.
>
>I gots me a new bike. YAAAAAAY!
>
>[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>
>One note: the shifters/brake levers are Record, not Centaur. They said
>it wasn't supposed to come that way, but it did. For the same price.
>

Excellent. You were wise to not complain!

>I replaced the men's saddle it had for a Terry Butterfly (the nicer
>model with titanium rails).
>

Considering the different riding positions, I hope it works as well
for you on this bike as it does for your 'winter' bike.

>If I replaced the suspension seatpost and the adjustable stem with
>lighter counterparts, I could get it down to about 18 lbs. As it is,
>it's just over 19 lbs.
>

After you figure out where you want your stem, you seldom adjust it.
If you don't like the suspension post you can replace it.
What pedals did you get?

>I've never had a bike that fit me like this. It is SO sweet. I am
>really, really liking this.


I noticed the page says P,S,M,L,XL for sizes. The page with the
geometry and measurements doesn't list the "P" size which I'm assuming
means "petite". Is that what you got?
--
zk
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Old 08-26-2004, 04:54 AM   #14 (permalink)
Beverly
 
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Re: New bike!


"the black rose" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:KB8Xc.171275$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com.. .
> I rode it. It disappeared out from under me. I fell in love.
>
> I gots me a new bike. YAAAAAAY!
>
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>
> One note: the shifters/brake levers are Record, not Centaur. They said
> it wasn't supposed to come that way, but it did. For the same price.
>
> I replaced the men's saddle it had for a Terry Butterfly (the nicer
> model with titanium rails).
>
> If I replaced the suspension seatpost and the adjustable stem with
> lighter counterparts, I could get it down to about 18 lbs. As it is,
> it's just over 19 lbs.
>
> I've never had a bike that fit me like this. It is SO sweet. I am
> really, really liking this.
>
> It will take me a bit to get used to the twitchier handling (as opposed
> to my C'dale M300). And this is the first I've experienced with
> clipless pedals; so far, I'm having more trouble clicking in than
> clicking out, but I'd rather it be that way than the other way around --
> slow down ... twist twist twist CLUNK.
>
> :-D


Nice looking bike! Congratulations.

I bought a new one earlier this season and it also was my first experience
with clipless pedals. It doesn't take too long to get familiar with them.
Everyone said I would eventually stop and forget to unclip and it finally
happened. Thankfully I was on grass and had a soft landing and there was
only one other person to witness it If I can use them anyone can!

Let me know how you like the Terry Butterfly. I have the Liberator and have
been thinking about putting it on another bike and buying a Butterfly for
the new one.

Enjoy the new bike.

Beverly
>
> Definitely a happy camper today.
>
> -km
>
> --
> the black rose
> proud to be owned by a yorkie
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]



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Old 08-26-2004, 04:54 AM   #15 (permalink)
Beverly
 
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Re: New bike!


"the black rose" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:KB8Xc.171275$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com.. .
> I rode it. It disappeared out from under me. I fell in love.
>
> I gots me a new bike. YAAAAAAY!
>
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>
> One note: the shifters/brake levers are Record, not Centaur. They said
> it wasn't supposed to come that way, but it did. For the same price.
>
> I replaced the men's saddle it had for a Terry Butterfly (the nicer
> model with titanium rails).
>
> If I replaced the suspension seatpost and the adjustable stem with
> lighter counterparts, I could get it down to about 18 lbs. As it is,
> it's just over 19 lbs.
>
> I've never had a bike that fit me like this. It is SO sweet. I am
> really, really liking this.
>
> It will take me a bit to get used to the twitchier handling (as opposed
> to my C'dale M300). And this is the first I've experienced with
> clipless pedals; so far, I'm having more trouble clicking in than
> clicking out, but I'd rather it be that way than the other way around --
> slow down ... twist twist twist CLUNK.
>
> :-D


Nice looking bike! Congratulations.

I bought a new one earlier this season and it also was my first experience
with clipless pedals. It doesn't take too long to get familiar with them.
Everyone said I would eventually stop and forget to unclip and it finally
happened. Thankfully I was on grass and had a soft landing and there was
only one other person to witness it If I can use them anyone can!

Let me know how you like the Terry Butterfly. I have the Liberator and have
been thinking about putting it on another bike and buying a Butterfly for
the new one.

Enjoy the new bike.

Beverly
>
> Definitely a happy camper today.
>
> -km
>
> --
> the black rose
> proud to be owned by a yorkie
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]



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Old 08-26-2004, 04:54 AM   #16 (permalink)
Beverly
 
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Re: New bike!


"the black rose" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:KB8Xc.171275$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com.. .
> I rode it. It disappeared out from under me. I fell in love.
>
> I gots me a new bike. YAAAAAAY!
>
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>
> One note: the shifters/brake levers are Record, not Centaur. They said
> it wasn't supposed to come that way, but it did. For the same price.
>
> I replaced the men's saddle it had for a Terry Butterfly (the nicer
> model with titanium rails).
>
> If I replaced the suspension seatpost and the adjustable stem with
> lighter counterparts, I could get it down to about 18 lbs. As it is,
> it's just over 19 lbs.
>
> I've never had a bike that fit me like this. It is SO sweet. I am
> really, really liking this.
>
> It will take me a bit to get used to the twitchier handling (as opposed
> to my C'dale M300). And this is the first I've experienced with
> clipless pedals; so far, I'm having more trouble clicking in than
> clicking out, but I'd rather it be that way than the other way around --
> slow down ... twist twist twist CLUNK.
>
> :-D


Nice looking bike! Congratulations.

I bought a new one earlier this season and it also was my first experience
with clipless pedals. It doesn't take too long to get familiar with them.
Everyone said I would eventually stop and forget to unclip and it finally
happened. Thankfully I was on grass and had a soft landing and there was
only one other person to witness it If I can use them anyone can!

Let me know how you like the Terry Butterfly. I have the Liberator and have
been thinking about putting it on another bike and buying a Butterfly for
the new one.

Enjoy the new bike.

Beverly
>
> Definitely a happy camper today.
>
> -km
>
> --
> the black rose
> proud to be owned by a yorkie
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]



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Old 08-26-2004, 04:54 AM   #17 (permalink)
Beverly
 
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Re: New bike!


"the black rose" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:KB8Xc.171275$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com.. .
> I rode it. It disappeared out from under me. I fell in love.
>
> I gots me a new bike. YAAAAAAY!
>
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>
> One note: the shifters/brake levers are Record, not Centaur. They said
> it wasn't supposed to come that way, but it did. For the same price.
>
> I replaced the men's saddle it had for a Terry Butterfly (the nicer
> model with titanium rails).
>
> If I replaced the suspension seatpost and the adjustable stem with
> lighter counterparts, I could get it down to about 18 lbs. As it is,
> it's just over 19 lbs.
>
> I've never had a bike that fit me like this. It is SO sweet. I am
> really, really liking this.
>
> It will take me a bit to get used to the twitchier handling (as opposed
> to my C'dale M300). And this is the first I've experienced with
> clipless pedals; so far, I'm having more trouble clicking in than
> clicking out, but I'd rather it be that way than the other way around --
> slow down ... twist twist twist CLUNK.
>
> :-D


Nice looking bike! Congratulations.

I bought a new one earlier this season and it also was my first experience
with clipless pedals. It doesn't take too long to get familiar with them.
Everyone said I would eventually stop and forget to unclip and it finally
happened. Thankfully I was on grass and had a soft landing and there was
only one other person to witness it If I can use them anyone can!

Let me know how you like the Terry Butterfly. I have the Liberator and have
been thinking about putting it on another bike and buying a Butterfly for
the new one.

Enjoy the new bike.

Beverly
>
> Definitely a happy camper today.
>
> -km
>
> --
> the black rose
> proud to be owned by a yorkie
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]



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Old 08-26-2004, 07:48 AM   #18 (permalink)
the black rose
 
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Re: New bike!

Zoot Katz wrote:
> Wed, 25 Aug 2004 22:42:50 GMT,
> <KB8Xc.171275$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com>, the black rose
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>>I replaced the men's saddle it had for a Terry Butterfly (the nicer
>>model with titanium rails).
>>

>
> Considering the different riding positions, I hope it works as well
> for you on this bike as it does for your 'winter' bike.


Better, actually. The one on my hybrid is the cheaper Butterfly with, I
dunno, vinyl seat cover? It works well on the hybrid despite being
designed for a more laid-out riding position. I've got the Butterfly Ti
on the new bike, titanium rails and leather seat cover, and it's
amazingly comfortable.

>>If I replaced the suspension seatpost and the adjustable stem with
>>lighter counterparts, I could get it down to about 18 lbs. As it is,
>>it's just over 19 lbs.
>>

>
> After you figure out where you want your stem, you seldom adjust it.
> If you don't like the suspension post you can replace it.
> What pedals did you get?


SPD. And Diadora shoes to go with. The shoes fit like gloves, very
comfortable. I'm still getting used to the pedals. And I have to
admit, the suspension post makes for a cushier ride. I'm not so sure
I'll replace it.

>>I've never had a bike that fit me like this. It is SO sweet. I am
>>really, really liking this.

>
>
> I noticed the page says P,S,M,L,XL for sizes. The page with the
> geometry and measurements doesn't list the "P" size which I'm assuming
> means "petite". Is that what you got?


Yup. I dunno why they don't list P on the geometry page (annoying).
It's about like a 47 cm frame, which is about the biggest I can safely
ride, depending on the bike. And it's got braze-ons for a rear rack,
which makes light touring doable.

Another bonus is the 700C wheels -- many many bikes with frame sizes
under 50 cm come with 650C wheels to avoid toe-clip overlap, so this was
a happy surprise.

I'm actually not going to get to ride it much until next week -- we're
going out of town tomorrow to visit old friends, and today is too busy
with all the errands that need running. *sigh*

-km

--
the black rose
proud to be owned by a yorkie
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Old 08-26-2004, 07:48 AM   #19 (permalink)
the black rose
 
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Re: New bike!

Zoot Katz wrote:
> Wed, 25 Aug 2004 22:42:50 GMT,
> <KB8Xc.171275$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com>, the black rose
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>>I replaced the men's saddle it had for a Terry Butterfly (the nicer
>>model with titanium rails).
>>

>
> Considering the different riding positions, I hope it works as well
> for you on this bike as it does for your 'winter' bike.


Better, actually. The one on my hybrid is the cheaper Butterfly with, I
dunno, vinyl seat cover? It works well on the hybrid despite being
designed for a more laid-out riding position. I've got the Butterfly Ti
on the new bike, titanium rails and leather seat cover, and it's
amazingly comfortable.

>>If I replaced the suspension seatpost and the adjustable stem with
>>lighter counterparts, I could get it down to about 18 lbs. As it is,
>>it's just over 19 lbs.
>>

>
> After you figure out where you want your stem, you seldom adjust it.
> If you don't like the suspension post you can replace it.
> What pedals did you get?


SPD. And Diadora shoes to go with. The shoes fit like gloves, very
comfortable. I'm still getting used to the pedals. And I have to
admit, the suspension post makes for a cushier ride. I'm not so sure
I'll replace it.

>>I've never had a bike that fit me like this. It is SO sweet. I am
>>really, really liking this.

>
>
> I noticed the page says P,S,M,L,XL for sizes. The page with the
> geometry and measurements doesn't list the "P" size which I'm assuming
> means "petite". Is that what you got?


Yup. I dunno why they don't list P on the geometry page (annoying).
It's about like a 47 cm frame, which is about the biggest I can safely
ride, depending on the bike. And it's got braze-ons for a rear rack,
which makes light touring doable.

Another bonus is the 700C wheels -- many many bikes with frame sizes
under 50 cm come with 650C wheels to avoid toe-clip overlap, so this was
a happy surprise.

I'm actually not going to get to ride it much until next week -- we're
going out of town tomorrow to visit old friends, and today is too busy
with all the errands that need running. *sigh*

-km

--
the black rose
proud to be owned by a yorkie
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Old 08-26-2004, 07:48 AM   #20 (permalink)
the black rose
 
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Re: New bike!

Zoot Katz wrote:
> Wed, 25 Aug 2004 22:42:50 GMT,
> <KB8Xc.171275$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com>, the black rose
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>>I replaced the men's saddle it had for a Terry Butterfly (the nicer
>>model with titanium rails).
>>

>
> Considering the different riding positions, I hope it works as well
> for you on this bike as it does for your 'winter' bike.


Better, actually. The one on my hybrid is the cheaper Butterfly with, I
dunno, vinyl seat cover? It works well on the hybrid despite being
designed for a more laid-out riding position. I've got the Butterfly Ti
on the new bike, titanium rails and leather seat cover, and it's
amazingly comfortable.

>>If I replaced the suspension seatpost and the adjustable stem with
>>lighter counterparts, I could get it down to about 18 lbs. As it is,
>>it's just over 19 lbs.
>>

>
> After you figure out where you want your stem, you seldom adjust it.
> If you don't like the suspension post you can replace it.
> What pedals did you get?


SPD. And Diadora shoes to go with. The shoes fit like gloves, very
comfortable. I'm still getting used to the pedals. And I have to
admit, the suspension post makes for a cushier ride. I'm not so sure
I'll replace it.

>>I've never had a bike that fit me like this. It is SO sweet. I am
>>really, really liking this.

>
>
> I noticed the page says P,S,M,L,XL for sizes. The page with the
> geometry and measurements doesn't list the "P" size which I'm assuming
> means "petite". Is that what you got?


Yup. I dunno why they don't list P on the geometry page (annoying).
It's about like a 47 cm frame, which is about the biggest I can safely
ride, depending on the bike. And it's got braze-ons for a rear rack,
which makes light touring doable.

Another bonus is the 700C wheels -- many many bikes with frame sizes
under 50 cm come with 650C wheels to avoid toe-clip overlap, so this was
a happy surprise.

I'm actually not going to get to ride it much until next week -- we're
going out of town tomorrow to visit old friends, and today is too busy
with all the errands that need running. *sigh*

-km

--
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