Zoot Katz wrote:
> Wed, 25 Aug 2004 22:42:50 GMT,
> <KB8Xc.171275$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com>, the black rose
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>>I replaced the men's saddle it had for a Terry Butterfly (the nicer
>>model with titanium rails).
>>
>
> Considering the different riding positions, I hope it works as well
> for you on this bike as it does for your 'winter' bike.
Better, actually. The one on my hybrid is the cheaper Butterfly with, I
dunno, vinyl seat cover? It works well on the hybrid despite being
designed for a more laid-out riding position. I've got the Butterfly Ti
on the new bike, titanium rails and leather seat cover, and it's
amazingly comfortable.
>>If I replaced the suspension seatpost and the adjustable stem with
>>lighter counterparts, I could get it down to about 18 lbs. As it is,
>>it's just over 19 lbs.
>>
>
> After you figure out where you want your stem, you seldom adjust it.
> If you don't like the suspension post you can replace it.
> What pedals did you get?
SPD. And Diadora shoes to go with. The shoes fit like gloves, very
comfortable. I'm still getting used to the pedals. And I have to
admit, the suspension post makes for a cushier ride. I'm not so sure
I'll replace it.
>>I've never had a bike that fit me like this. It is SO sweet. I am
>>really, really liking this.
>
>
> I noticed the page says P,S,M,L,XL for sizes. The page with the
> geometry and measurements doesn't list the "P" size which I'm assuming
> means "petite". Is that what you got?
Yup. I dunno why they don't list P on the geometry page (annoying).
It's about like a 47 cm frame, which is about the biggest I can safely
ride, depending on the bike. And it's got braze-ons for a rear rack,
which makes light touring doable.
Another bonus is the 700C wheels -- many many bikes with frame sizes
under 50 cm come with 650C wheels to avoid toe-clip overlap, so this was
a happy surprise.
I'm actually not going to get to ride it much until next week -- we're
going out of town tomorrow to visit old friends, and today is too busy
with all the errands that need running. *sigh*
-km
--
the black rose
proud to be owned by a yorkie [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Beverly wrote:
> I bought a new one earlier this season and it also was my first experience
> with clipless pedals. It doesn't take too long to get familiar with them.
> Everyone said I would eventually stop and forget to unclip and it finally
> happened. Thankfully I was on grass and had a soft landing and there was
> only one other person to witness it
Thanks, I'll see if I can at least be on grass when I forget, hehe. For
my last tumble, I had the dubious honor of performing in front of an
entire intersection of stopped vehicles. In retrospect, I should have
bowed when I got up.
> Let me know how you like the Terry Butterfly. I have the Liberator and have
> been thinking about putting it on another bike and buying a Butterfly for
> the new one.
I like it a lot. It's acceptably comfortable on the hybrid and dreamy
on the new bike.
FWIW, he's sold them to about 10 or 11 women recently, and all but 2
loved it. So I'd say that if your personal geometry is like the
majority of women, you'll get along with the Butterfly. In this area,
the Butterfly Ti is about $100 and the less expensive one is about $60.
> Enjoy the new bike.
Thanks, and same to you with yours. If you try the Butterfly, please
let me know how it worked out for you. And if your LBS knows you, see
if they'll let you borrow a Butterfly for a day to test ride it (my LBS
does that with people they know). How's the Liberator? I'd have gotten
that one for the hybrid if there had been any in stock.
-km
--
the black rose
proud to be owned by a yorkie [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Beverly wrote:
> I bought a new one earlier this season and it also was my first experience
> with clipless pedals. It doesn't take too long to get familiar with them.
> Everyone said I would eventually stop and forget to unclip and it finally
> happened. Thankfully I was on grass and had a soft landing and there was
> only one other person to witness it
Thanks, I'll see if I can at least be on grass when I forget, hehe. For
my last tumble, I had the dubious honor of performing in front of an
entire intersection of stopped vehicles. In retrospect, I should have
bowed when I got up.
> Let me know how you like the Terry Butterfly. I have the Liberator and have
> been thinking about putting it on another bike and buying a Butterfly for
> the new one.
I like it a lot. It's acceptably comfortable on the hybrid and dreamy
on the new bike.
FWIW, he's sold them to about 10 or 11 women recently, and all but 2
loved it. So I'd say that if your personal geometry is like the
majority of women, you'll get along with the Butterfly. In this area,
the Butterfly Ti is about $100 and the less expensive one is about $60.
> Enjoy the new bike.
Thanks, and same to you with yours. If you try the Butterfly, please
let me know how it worked out for you. And if your LBS knows you, see
if they'll let you borrow a Butterfly for a day to test ride it (my LBS
does that with people they know). How's the Liberator? I'd have gotten
that one for the hybrid if there had been any in stock.
-km
--
the black rose
proud to be owned by a yorkie [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Beverly wrote:
> I bought a new one earlier this season and it also was my first experience
> with clipless pedals. It doesn't take too long to get familiar with them.
> Everyone said I would eventually stop and forget to unclip and it finally
> happened. Thankfully I was on grass and had a soft landing and there was
> only one other person to witness it
Thanks, I'll see if I can at least be on grass when I forget, hehe. For
my last tumble, I had the dubious honor of performing in front of an
entire intersection of stopped vehicles. In retrospect, I should have
bowed when I got up.
> Let me know how you like the Terry Butterfly. I have the Liberator and have
> been thinking about putting it on another bike and buying a Butterfly for
> the new one.
I like it a lot. It's acceptably comfortable on the hybrid and dreamy
on the new bike.
FWIW, he's sold them to about 10 or 11 women recently, and all but 2
loved it. So I'd say that if your personal geometry is like the
majority of women, you'll get along with the Butterfly. In this area,
the Butterfly Ti is about $100 and the less expensive one is about $60.
> Enjoy the new bike.
Thanks, and same to you with yours. If you try the Butterfly, please
let me know how it worked out for you. And if your LBS knows you, see
if they'll let you borrow a Butterfly for a day to test ride it (my LBS
does that with people they know). How's the Liberator? I'd have gotten
that one for the hybrid if there had been any in stock.
-km
--
the black rose
proud to be owned by a yorkie [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Beverly wrote:
> I bought a new one earlier this season and it also was my first experience
> with clipless pedals. It doesn't take too long to get familiar with them.
> Everyone said I would eventually stop and forget to unclip and it finally
> happened. Thankfully I was on grass and had a soft landing and there was
> only one other person to witness it
Thanks, I'll see if I can at least be on grass when I forget, hehe. For
my last tumble, I had the dubious honor of performing in front of an
entire intersection of stopped vehicles. In retrospect, I should have
bowed when I got up.
> Let me know how you like the Terry Butterfly. I have the Liberator and have
> been thinking about putting it on another bike and buying a Butterfly for
> the new one.
I like it a lot. It's acceptably comfortable on the hybrid and dreamy
on the new bike.
FWIW, he's sold them to about 10 or 11 women recently, and all but 2
loved it. So I'd say that if your personal geometry is like the
majority of women, you'll get along with the Butterfly. In this area,
the Butterfly Ti is about $100 and the less expensive one is about $60.
> Enjoy the new bike.
Thanks, and same to you with yours. If you try the Butterfly, please
let me know how it worked out for you. And if your LBS knows you, see
if they'll let you borrow a Butterfly for a day to test ride it (my LBS
does that with people they know). How's the Liberator? I'd have gotten
that one for the hybrid if there had been any in stock.
-km
--
the black rose
proud to be owned by a yorkie [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Thu, 26 Aug 2004 15:48:38 GMT,
<qDnXc.47404$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com>, the black rose
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>> Considering the different riding positions, I hope it works as well
>> for you on this bike as it does for your 'winter' bike.
>
>Better, actually. The one on my hybrid is the cheaper Butterfly with, I
>dunno, vinyl seat cover? It works well on the hybrid despite being
>designed for a more laid-out riding position. I've got the Butterfly Ti
>on the new bike, titanium rails and leather seat cover, and it's
>amazingly comfortable.
I wish I could be as passionate about my Terry mens' saddle. It's
pretty with a white leather cover and titanium rails. It reminds me of
a spitted marshmallow ready for toasting. I bought it because it looks
like the epitome of bike cheese. I really do like it and for short
distances on an upright bike it's been okay. It's just too squishy,
and a bit wide, for my Helvetic fixie it was intended to crown.
--
zk
Thu, 26 Aug 2004 15:48:38 GMT,
<qDnXc.47404$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com>, the black rose
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>> Considering the different riding positions, I hope it works as well
>> for you on this bike as it does for your 'winter' bike.
>
>Better, actually. The one on my hybrid is the cheaper Butterfly with, I
>dunno, vinyl seat cover? It works well on the hybrid despite being
>designed for a more laid-out riding position. I've got the Butterfly Ti
>on the new bike, titanium rails and leather seat cover, and it's
>amazingly comfortable.
I wish I could be as passionate about my Terry mens' saddle. It's
pretty with a white leather cover and titanium rails. It reminds me of
a spitted marshmallow ready for toasting. I bought it because it looks
like the epitome of bike cheese. I really do like it and for short
distances on an upright bike it's been okay. It's just too squishy,
and a bit wide, for my Helvetic fixie it was intended to crown.
--
zk
Thu, 26 Aug 2004 15:48:38 GMT,
<qDnXc.47404$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com>, the black rose
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>> Considering the different riding positions, I hope it works as well
>> for you on this bike as it does for your 'winter' bike.
>
>Better, actually. The one on my hybrid is the cheaper Butterfly with, I
>dunno, vinyl seat cover? It works well on the hybrid despite being
>designed for a more laid-out riding position. I've got the Butterfly Ti
>on the new bike, titanium rails and leather seat cover, and it's
>amazingly comfortable.
I wish I could be as passionate about my Terry mens' saddle. It's
pretty with a white leather cover and titanium rails. It reminds me of
a spitted marshmallow ready for toasting. I bought it because it looks
like the epitome of bike cheese. I really do like it and for short
distances on an upright bike it's been okay. It's just too squishy,
and a bit wide, for my Helvetic fixie it was intended to crown.
--
zk
Thu, 26 Aug 2004 15:48:38 GMT,
<qDnXc.47404$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].com>, the black rose
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>> Considering the different riding positions, I hope it works as well
>> for you on this bike as it does for your 'winter' bike.
>
>Better, actually. The one on my hybrid is the cheaper Butterfly with, I
>dunno, vinyl seat cover? It works well on the hybrid despite being
>designed for a more laid-out riding position. I've got the Butterfly Ti
>on the new bike, titanium rails and leather seat cover, and it's
>amazingly comfortable.
I wish I could be as passionate about my Terry mens' saddle. It's
pretty with a white leather cover and titanium rails. It reminds me of
a spitted marshmallow ready for toasting. I bought it because it looks
like the epitome of bike cheese. I really do like it and for short
distances on an upright bike it's been okay. It's just too squishy,
and a bit wide, for my Helvetic fixie it was intended to crown.
--
zk
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> I rode it. It disappeared out from under me. I fell in love.
>
>
Nice choice! Cannondales are excellent bikes. Going with Campy Record
definitely gets you Fabrizio points, too.