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Old 09-08-2003, 02:33 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Re: OT: Programming was: Re: Trying to give up computer

David Reuteler wrote:
> you'd like perl. it's an awful lot like obfuscated C.


Not the way I write it. In fact, my Perl looks a lot like C in terms
of how it's structured. Perl need not be obfuscated.

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Old 09-08-2003, 02:37 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Re: OT: Programming

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> Second that. C since about '89, unix only from '93...


C since '83 (PC-DOS 2.0), UNIX since '85 (on a PDP-11).

> Historically, C and Unix go hand in hand...


C was invented to implement UNIX.

> Back to on-topic: anybody wrote cycling software in C?


I wrote a gear calculator in C back around 1987.

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Old 09-08-2003, 02:41 PM   #33 (permalink)
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Re: Trying to give up computer

Dan Cosley <cosley@cs.umn.edu> wrote:

: Interesting that you say that. Our research group is talking about
: ways to leverage GPS trails, perhaps along with a digital camera
: (helmet mount?), to help people enjoy travelling more.

Combining cycling and informatics looks interesting to me as well.
It would be nice if you could get speed, position, cadence, heart
rate, position and weather data into the same log with camera
footage. I bet the technological basis is there, but we'd need
more open interfaces from the gadget vendors and probably also
some formal industry standards for that to come about. Think about
the Internet, it would never have gone this far without lots and
lots of those.

I guess the Dutch ANWB could well provide GPS coordinates and even
some online images for their navigation points in 5 years or so )

If the open platforms were there, you could easily just go ride
and at home with a few mouseclicks, you'd share your route with
others...

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Old 09-08-2003, 07:02 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Re: OT: Programming

On Mon, 08 Sep 2003 14:37:04 -0700, Bill Davidson <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
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> I wrote a gear calculator in C back around 1987.


Drat. I was going to try that project...

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Old 09-08-2003, 07:07 PM   #35 (permalink)
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Re: OT: Programming

Rick Onanian wrote:
> On Mon, 08 Sep 2003 14:37:04 -0700, Bill Davidson
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
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>> I wrote a gear calculator in C back around 1987.

>
> Drat. I was going to try that project...


I don't know where it is. It only did simple ratios to help me find
duplicates. I haven't used it in years. Sheldon's web based calculator
is better anyway with different types of gear measurments and lots of
standard cassettes and freewheels pre-programmed into it.

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Old 09-08-2003, 07:34 PM   #36 (permalink)
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On Mon, 08 Sep 2003 19:07:17 -0700, Bill Davidson <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
wrote:
>> Drat. I was going to try that project...

>
> I don't know where it is. It only did simple ratios to help me find
> duplicates. I haven't used it in years. Sheldon's web based calculator
> is better anyway with different types of gear measurments and lots of
> standard cassettes and freewheels pre-programmed into it.


Yeah, Sheldon's is where I got the idea, when
I found myself spending hours repeatedly
running different combinations through it and
decided I'd like to write a program to do all
the combinations I'd want AND show some
additional data...

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Old 09-08-2003, 11:16 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Re: OT: Programming was: Re: Trying to give up computer

In article <5y67b.120636$kP.74629@fed1read03>,
Bill Davidson <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:
> David Reuteler wrote:
>> k&r (as in kernighan & ritchie who helped invent C) ..

>
> Dennis Ritchie invented C. He helped invent UNIX with Ken Thompson.
> C was invented for the purpose of writing operating systems; specifically
> UNIX.


You might find this interesting:
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Old 09-09-2003, 03:06 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Re: Trying to give up computer

Buck <j u n k m a i l @ g a l a x y c o r p . c o m> wrote:

: Why not go for the whole enchilada? Add enough sensors and you could include
: gear selection, torque, front and rear brake pressure, deviation from
: vertical, tire pressure, tire temperature, apparent wind velocity, and
: uhhhh.... perhaps a whole suite of body readings like temps, glucose level,
: salinity, and on and on and on....

: Get it right and we could all be rolling laboratories!

Sure, would make statistical research quite a bit easier :-)

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