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01-12-2007, 10:56 AM

GaryG wrote:
> "Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote in message
> news:k7bbq2peorm14k5jm2ceg4jddhmdh03erd@4ax.com...
>> On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 06:16:37 GMT, "RpJ" <thisusenetacct@shaw.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>>> news

l56q2to4bmh6of8iklck4256r3ttvgjln@4ax.com...
>>>> So much for the myth that mountain biking is good for your health!
>>>>
>>>> Mike
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Just remember, no matter how you live or what you do, none of us will
> ever
>>> get out of here alive.
>> All the more reason to live in a way that you can be proud of, instead
>> of selfishly abusing people and wildlife for cheap thrills such as
>> mountain biking.
>
> Are your family members equally proud of your decades-long obsession, Mike?

If they cared enough, they held an intervention. He obviously refused help.

>
> Or, as seems much more likely, do they express concern that you're wasting
> your life and that you may have a mental illness? Have they ever
> recommended that you speak with a mental health professional?

Yes, but he was probably diagnosed too late, and therefore thought his
maniacal obsessions were "normal".

>
> Do you have any close friends and/or lovers in the real world?

Obviously not, since the death of his cat.

Or, is this
> your real world?
>
> GG
>
>> ===
>> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
>> humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
>> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
>>
>> Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are
> fond of!
>> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>
>
>

01-14-2007, 10:53 AM

On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 22:59:00 -0800, "GaryG" <sorrynoemail@NOSPAMX.com>
wrote:

>"Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>news:k7bbq2peorm14k5jm2ceg4jddhmdh03erd@4ax.com.. .
>> On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 06:16:37 GMT, "RpJ" <thisusenetacct@shaw.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>> >news

l56q2to4bmh6of8iklck4256r3ttvgjln@4ax.com.. .
>> >> So much for the myth that mountain biking is good for your health!
>> >>
>> >> Mike
>> >>
>> >>
>> >Just remember, no matter how you live or what you do, none of us will
>ever
>> >get out of here alive.
>>
>> All the more reason to live in a way that you can be proud of, instead
>> of selfishly abusing people and wildlife for cheap thrills such as
>> mountain biking.
>
>Are your family members equally proud of your decades-long obsession, Mike?
>
>Or, as seems much more likely, do they express concern that you're wasting
>your life and that you may have a mental illness? Have they ever
>recommended that you speak with a mental health professional?
>
>Do you have any close friends and/or lovers in the real world? Or, is this
>your real world?
>
>GG
>
>> ===
>> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
>> humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
>> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
>>
>> Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are
>fond of!
>>
>> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>
>

Did you say something?
===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

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01-14-2007, 02:53 PM

Mike Vandeman wrote:
> On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 06:16:37 GMT, "RpJ" <thisusenetacct@shaw.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote in message
> >news

l56q2to4bmh6of8iklck4256r3ttvgjln@4ax.com.. .
> >> So much for the myth that mountain biking is good for your health!
> >>
> >> Mike
> >>
> >>
> >Just remember, no matter how you live or what you do, none of us will ever
> >get out of here alive.
>
> You can leave whenever you like, but you don't have the right to take
> wildlife with you.

Looks to me like you're enjoying the use of 'electricity'. Certainly,
no wildlife has ever been harmed by the building of power plants, eh?

> ===
> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
> humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
>
> Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!
>
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

01-14-2007, 04:21 PM

On 14 Jan 2007 15:53:33 -0800, "haubrey" <howard.aubrey@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
>Mike Vandeman wrote:
>> On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 06:16:37 GMT, "RpJ" <thisusenetacct@shaw.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>> >news

l56q2to4bmh6of8iklck4256r3ttvgjln@4ax.com.. .
>> >> So much for the myth that mountain biking is good for your health!
>> >>
>> >> Mike
>> >>
>> >>
>> >Just remember, no matter how you live or what you do, none of us will ever
>> >get out of here alive.
>>
>> You can leave whenever you like, but you don't have the right to take
>> wildlife with you.
>
>Looks to me like you're enjoying the use of 'electricity'. Certainly,
>no wildlife has ever been harmed by the building of power plants, eh?

If you weren't using electricity to make that statement, it might mean
something. Hypocrite.
===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

01-14-2007, 04:38 PM

Mike Vandeman wrote:
> On 14 Jan 2007 15:53:33 -0800, "haubrey" <howard.aubrey@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> >Mike Vandeman wrote:
> >> On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 06:16:37 GMT, "RpJ" <thisusenetacct@shaw.ca>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote in message
> >> >news

l56q2to4bmh6of8iklck4256r3ttvgjln@4ax.com.. .
> >> >> So much for the myth that mountain biking is good for your health!
> >> >>
> >> >> Mike
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >Just remember, no matter how you live or what you do, none of us will ever
> >> >get out of here alive.
> >>
> >> You can leave whenever you like, but you don't have the right to take
> >> wildlife with you.
> >
> >Looks to me like you're enjoying the use of 'electricity'. Certainly,
> >no wildlife has ever been harmed by the building of power plants, eh?
>
> If you weren't using electricity to make that statement, it might mean
> something. Hypocrite.

Yes indeed, you are a hypocrite. Standing on your soapbox whining
about others harming the environment, and doing the same yourself. How
pathetic. Do the men in white coats know your missing?

> ===
> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
> humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
>
> Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!
>
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

01-14-2007, 05:00 PM

Mike Vandeman wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 22:59:00 -0800, "GaryG" <sorrynoemail@NOSPAMX.com>
> wrote:
>
>> "Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>> news:k7bbq2peorm14k5jm2ceg4jddhmdh03erd@4ax.com...
>>> On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 06:16:37 GMT, "RpJ" <thisusenetacct@shaw.ca>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>>>> news

l56q2to4bmh6of8iklck4256r3ttvgjln@4ax.com...
>>>>> So much for the myth that mountain biking is good for your health!
>>>>>
>>>>> Mike
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Just remember, no matter how you live or what you do, none of us will
>> ever
>>>> get out of here alive.
>>> All the more reason to live in a way that you can be proud of, instead
>>> of selfishly abusing people and wildlife for cheap thrills such as
>>> mountain biking.
>> Are your family members equally proud of your decades-long obsession, Mike?
>>
>> Or, as seems much more likely, do they express concern that you're wasting
>> your life and that you may have a mental illness? Have they ever
>> recommended that you speak with a mental health professional?
>>
>> Do you have any close friends and/or lovers in the real world? Or, is this
>> your real world?
>>
>> GG
>>
>>> ===
>>> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
>>> humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
>>> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
>>>
>>> Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are
>> fond of!
>>> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>>
>
> Did you say something?

Classic denial.

01-14-2007, 05:03 PM

"Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote in message
news:eg2lq25a8jcs5db1isdrp9grd7t18kua9s@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 22:59:00 -0800, "GaryG" <sorrynoemail@NOSPAMX.com>
> wrote:
>
> >"Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote in message
> >news:k7bbq2peorm14k5jm2ceg4jddhmdh03erd@4ax.com.. .
> >> On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 06:16:37 GMT, "RpJ" <thisusenetacct@shaw.ca>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote in message
> >> >news

l56q2to4bmh6of8iklck4256r3ttvgjln@4ax.com.. .
> >> >> So much for the myth that mountain biking is good for your health!
> >> >>
> >> >> Mike
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >Just remember, no matter how you live or what you do, none of us will
> >ever
> >> >get out of here alive.
> >>
> >> All the more reason to live in a way that you can be proud of, instead
> >> of selfishly abusing people and wildlife for cheap thrills such as
> >> mountain biking.
> >
> >Are your family members equally proud of your decades-long obsession,
Mike?
> >
> >Or, as seems much more likely, do they express concern that you're
wasting
> >your life and that you may have a mental illness? Have they ever
> >recommended that you speak with a mental health professional?
> >
> >Do you have any close friends and/or lovers in the real world? Or, is
this
> >your real world?
> >
> >GG
> >
> >> ===
> >> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
> >> humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
> >> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
> >>
> >> Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you
are
> >fond of!
> >>
> >> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
> >
> >
>
> Did you say something?

Yes...it's a shame that your mental state precludes you from hearing.

Have any of your family members expressed concern with your obsessions
regarding the deaths of mountain bikers? Do they know that you post them as
"evidence" of the evil of mountain biking? If so, do they support your
behavior and your quest? Or, do they express concern for your mental
well-being?

I would be very surprised if you haven't alienated yourself from your former
friends and family. The fact that you never mention anyone else in your
posts (or answer questions about your friends or family) leads me to believe
that you are an isolated, lonely, bitter person who suffers deeply in an
obsessive attempt to suppress what you wrongly perceive as an evil force.
You're deluded, of course, but until you seek help you'll never be able to
see that.

GG

> ===
> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
> humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
>
> Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are
fond of!
>
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

01-16-2007, 06:08 AM

On Sun, 14 Jan 2007 18:03:01 -0800, "GaryG" <sorrynoemail@NOSPAMX.com>
wrote:

>"Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>news:eg2lq25a8jcs5db1isdrp9grd7t18kua9s@4ax.com.. .
>> On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 22:59:00 -0800, "GaryG" <sorrynoemail@NOSPAMX.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >"Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>> >news:k7bbq2peorm14k5jm2ceg4jddhmdh03erd@4ax.com.. .
>> >> On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 06:16:37 GMT, "RpJ" <thisusenetacct@shaw.ca>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >"Mike Vandeman" <mjvande@pacbell.net> wrote in message
>> >> >news

l56q2to4bmh6of8iklck4256r3ttvgjln@4ax.com.. .
>> >> >> So much for the myth that mountain biking is good for your health!
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Mike
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >Just remember, no matter how you live or what you do, none of us will
>> >ever
>> >> >get out of here alive.
>> >>
>> >> All the more reason to live in a way that you can be proud of, instead
>> >> of selfishly abusing people and wildlife for cheap thrills such as
>> >> mountain biking.
>> >
>> >Are your family members equally proud of your decades-long obsession,
>Mike?
>> >
>> >Or, as seems much more likely, do they express concern that you're
>wasting
>> >your life and that you may have a mental illness? Have they ever
>> >recommended that you speak with a mental health professional?
>> >
>> >Do you have any close friends and/or lovers in the real world? Or, is
>this
>> >your real world?
>> >
>> >GG
>> >
>> >> ===
>> >> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
>> >> humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
>> >> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
>> >>
>> >> Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you
>are
>> >fond of!
>> >>
>> >> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Did you say something?
>
>Yes...it's a shame that your mental state precludes you from hearing.
>
>Have any of your family members expressed concern with your obsessions
>regarding the deaths of mountain bikers? Do they know that you post them as
>"evidence" of the evil of mountain biking? If so, do they support your
>behavior and your quest? Or, do they express concern for your mental
>well-being?
>
>I would be very surprised if you haven't alienated yourself from your former
>friends and family. The fact that you never mention anyone else in your
>posts (or answer questions about your friends or family) leads me to believe
>that you are an isolated, lonely, bitter person who suffers deeply in an
>obsessive attempt to suppress what you wrongly perceive as an evil force.
>You're deluded, of course, but until you seek help you'll never be able to
>see that.
>
>GG
>
>> ===
>> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
>> humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
>> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
>>
>> Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are
>fond of!
>>
>> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>

That's nice.
===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

01-19-2007, 12:16 PM

On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 06:16:37 GMT, "RpJ" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> said
in <9rGoh.583391$1T2.148815@pd7urf2no>:

>Just remember, no matter how you live or what you do, none of us will ever
>get out of here alive.

True, but unlike Mike we may not get there morally bankrupt.

Guy
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