Eco terrorist Mike's friend caught. - Page 7

02-10-2007, 10:22 AM

On Feb 10, 9:16 am, Mike Vandeman <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
> Are you really that dumb? As I have always said, most of the
> destructiveness is due to the presence of BIKES. DUH!

You also said mountain bikers were only destructive, that even when
they weren't mountain biking they were probably selfishly destroying
something, and that you are not interested in banning them.

They're your words, not mine. You know, if you start showing too much
inconsistency on AMB, your reputation just might start to suffer.

-Beej

02-10-2007, 11:27 AM

"Mike Vandeman" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 9 Feb 2007 20:26:50 -0700, "TJ" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
>
>
> Did you say something?

Yes, you are a cyclophobic troll. It sucks to be you.

> ===
> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
> humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
>
> Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are
> fond of!
>
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

02-10-2007, 11:45 AM

"Mike Vandeman" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 03:27:35 -0500, "S Curtiss" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Mike Vandeman" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
>>news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]. ..
>>> On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 18:56:35 -0800, cc <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> One is HUMAN, you idiot. Not
>>>>>>>>>> to mention the INTENT of the
>>>>>>>>>> murderer stringing booby-traps
>>>>>>>>>> for them.
>>>>>>>>> You still haven't answered the question: " In the case of mountain
>>>>>>>>> bikers, what IS the difference, except that the snake is
>>>>>>>>> beneficial,
>>>>>>>>> and the mountain biker is just destructive?". Admit it: you CAN'T.
>>>>>>>>> Tw
>>>>>>>>> ===
>>>>>>>> Can you read? The snake is not HUMAN.
>>>>>>> So what? What's the DIFFERENCE between them? DUH!
>>>>>> Are you seriously that stupid? They DIFFER in that one is a REPTILE
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> one is HUMAN.
>>>>>
>>>>> That is a category, not a difference.
>>>>
>>>>Mike, categorical is one kind of differentiation. Try using a
>>>>dictionary.
>>>
>>> So you admit that you can't or won't answer the question?
>>There is no question. Any qualities, beneficial or not, that you choose to
>>imply onto a snake has no reference to any qualities you choose to imply
>>onto "mountain bikers".
>>The snake is destructive in as much as it kills and moves. How do you
>>measure "beneficial"? Beneficial to it's prey? Beneficial to it's
>>surroundings? Beneficial to humans?
>>Your statement that the "mountain biker is just destructive" is a
>>statement
>>made from your opinion of "mountain bikers". The ONLY difference you seem
>>to
>>care about is that the snake does not ride a bicycle and that simple fact
>>is
>>obvious and nonsense.
>>Your attempts to force attention away from the FACTS of the case is also
>>obvious.
>>It is FACT this man was purposefully rigging trails in such a way as to
>>cause injury.
>>It is FACT this man's activities can be classified as terrorism.
>>It is FACT he was breaking the law.
>>
>>Any implications you make towards the activities of cyclists while riding
>>are a non-issue as off-road cycling is legal and recognized. Your OPINION
>>has no weight in the matter
>
> Did you say somehting?
> ===
Conceding to actual fact and truth yet again as you obviously can not
substantiate your comments. You are truly a PATHETIC representative for
environmental causes as your OPINIONS are only an example of why common
discussion is often stalled by misconceptions and simplistic, idealistic
rhetoric. It is obvious you are more interested in your OPINIONS of off-road
cycling than you are in responsible discussion to make environmental
resources safer and more secure from destruction. You stand in the forest
looking for bicycles oblivious to the trees being cleared behind you for a
mall or development.

02-10-2007, 12:12 PM

On Feb 10, 12:19 pm, Mike Vandeman <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
> humans ("pure habitat").

Why?

Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Why?

> Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

Why?

02-10-2007, 01:21 PM

Mike Vandeman wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Feb 2007 17:39:20 -0800, cc <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
>> Mike Vandeman wrote:
>>> On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 18:56:35 -0800, cc <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Mike Vandeman wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 13:45:44 -0800, cc <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Mike Vandeman wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 17:56:09 -0800, cc <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mike Vandeman wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 06 Feb 2007 09:36:45 -0800, cc <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mike Vandeman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 18:39:37 -0800, cc <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike Vandeman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 05 Feb 2007 10:40:11 -0800, cc <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike Vandeman wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 17:59:52 -0800, "Bill Sornson" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> J wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good Job to the citizen, not police that caught this guy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The guy needs to have the book thrown at him. Attempted murder included.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why? Mountain bikers murder horses and wildlife every day, and think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing of it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mountain bikers murder horses every day? Do you smoke crack?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know of several that were killed by mountain bikers speeding around
>>>>>>>>>>>>> blind turns and forcing them off a cliff.
>>>>>>>>>>>> well, besides the obvious skew here, these events are extremely few and
>>>>>>>>>>>> far between. but you knew that.
>>>>>>>>>>> Not due to any concern of mountain bikers. They ride recklessly
>>>>>>>>>>> regardless of who is on the trail.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mike, this is pretty typical.
>>>>>>>>>> Cognitive bias, proof by
>>>>>>>>>> example, and proof by
>>>>>>>>>> assertion. No wonder you never
>>>>>>>>>> published. Looks like the only
>>>>>>>>>> thing you learned is how to
>>>>>>>>>> string together logical fallacies.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Besides, if you can't see the difference between killing a snake and a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> human, you certainly belong in a padded room.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In the case of mountain bikers, what IS the difference, except that
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the snake is beneficial, and the mountain biker is just destructive?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> you proved my point, you sick ****.
>>>>>>>>>>> You didn't answer the question.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> One is HUMAN, you idiot. Not
>>>>>>>>>> to mention the INTENT of the
>>>>>>>>>> murderer stringing booby-traps
>>>>>>>>>> for them.
>>>>>>>>> You still haven't answered the question: " In the case of mountain
>>>>>>>>> bikers, what IS the difference, except that the snake is beneficial,
>>>>>>>>> and the mountain biker is just destructive?". Admit it: you CAN'T.
>>>>>>>>> Tw
>>>>>>>>> ===
>>>>>>>> Can you read? The snake is not HUMAN.
>>>>>>> So what? What's the DIFFERENCE between them? DUH!
>>>>>> Are you seriously that stupid? They DIFFER in that one is a REPTILE and
>>>>>> one is HUMAN.
>>>>> That is a category, not a difference.
>>>> Mike, categorical is one kind of differentiation. Try using a dictionary.
>>> So you admit that you can't or won't answer the question?
>> You are truly unbelievable. If it is in a different category, e.g.
>> species, it is by definition different.
>
> That doesn't explain HOW they are different.

I'm sorry, but you must speak
a different English than I do.

02-10-2007, 02:25 PM

On 10 Feb 2007 11:22:37 -0800, "Beej" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>On Feb 10, 9:16 am, Mike Vandeman <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>> Are you really that dumb? As I have always said, most of the
>> destructiveness is due to the presence of BIKES. DUH!
>
>You also said mountain bikers were only destructive, that even when
>they weren't mountain biking they were probably selfishly destroying
>something, and that you are not interested in banning them.
>
>They're your words, not mine. You know, if you start showing too much
>inconsistency on AMB, your reputation just might start to suffer.

There's no inconsistency. I am only interested in banning destructive
activities, not people. Your cynicism is showing.

>-Beej
===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

02-10-2007, 02:26 PM

On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 15:45:30 -0500, "S Curtiss" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
wrote:

>
>"Mike Vandeman" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
>news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].. .
>> On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 03:27:35 -0500, "S Curtiss" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"Mike Vandeman" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
>>>news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] ...
>>>> On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 18:56:35 -0800, cc <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> One is HUMAN, you idiot. Not
>>>>>>>>>>> to mention the INTENT of the
>>>>>>>>>>> murderer stringing booby-traps
>>>>>>>>>>> for them.
>>>>>>>>>> You still haven't answered the question: " In the case of mountain
>>>>>>>>>> bikers, what IS the difference, except that the snake is
>>>>>>>>>> beneficial,
>>>>>>>>>> and the mountain biker is just destructive?". Admit it: you CAN'T.
>>>>>>>>>> Tw
>>>>>>>>>> ===
>>>>>>>>> Can you read? The snake is not HUMAN.
>>>>>>>> So what? What's the DIFFERENCE between them? DUH!
>>>>>>> Are you seriously that stupid? They DIFFER in that one is a REPTILE
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> one is HUMAN.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is a category, not a difference.
>>>>>
>>>>>Mike, categorical is one kind of differentiation. Try using a
>>>>>dictionary.
>>>>
>>>> So you admit that you can't or won't answer the question?
>>>There is no question. Any qualities, beneficial or not, that you choose to
>>>imply onto a snake has no reference to any qualities you choose to imply
>>>onto "mountain bikers".
>>>The snake is destructive in as much as it kills and moves. How do you
>>>measure "beneficial"? Beneficial to it's prey? Beneficial to it's
>>>surroundings? Beneficial to humans?
>>>Your statement that the "mountain biker is just destructive" is a
>>>statement
>>>made from your opinion of "mountain bikers". The ONLY difference you seem
>>>to
>>>care about is that the snake does not ride a bicycle and that simple fact
>>>is
>>>obvious and nonsense.
>>>Your attempts to force attention away from the FACTS of the case is also
>>>obvious.
>>>It is FACT this man was purposefully rigging trails in such a way as to
>>>cause injury.
>>>It is FACT this man's activities can be classified as terrorism.
>>>It is FACT he was breaking the law.
>>>
>>>Any implications you make towards the activities of cyclists while riding
>>>are a non-issue as off-road cycling is legal and recognized. Your OPINION
>>>has no weight in the matter
>>
>> Did you say somehting?
>> ===
>Conceding to actual fact and truth yet again as you obviously can not
>substantiate your comments. You are truly a PATHETIC representative for
>environmental causes as your OPINIONS are only an example of why common
>discussion is often stalled by misconceptions and simplistic, idealistic
>rhetoric. It is obvious you are more interested in your OPINIONS of off-road
>cycling than you are in responsible discussion to make environmental
>resources safer and more secure from destruction. You stand in the forest
>looking for bicycles oblivious to the trees being cleared behind you for a
>mall or development.
>

Did you say somehting?
===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

02-10-2007, 02:27 PM

On 10 Feb 2007 13:12:14 -0800, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] wrote:

>On Feb 10, 12:19 pm, Mike Vandeman <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
>> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
>> humans ("pure habitat").
>
>Why?

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].

>Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
>> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].

>Why?
>
>> Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!
>
>Why?

Do you put your head in the microwave?
===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

02-10-2007, 06:38 PM

Mike Vandeman wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 15:45:30 -0500, "S Curtiss" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
> wrote:
>
>> "Mike Vandeman" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
>> news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
>>> On Sat, 10 Feb 2007 03:27:35 -0500, "S Curtiss" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Mike Vandeman" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
>>>> news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
>>>>> On Thu, 08 Feb 2007 18:56:35 -0800, cc <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> One is HUMAN, you idiot. Not
>>>>>>>>>>>> to mention the INTENT of the
>>>>>>>>>>>> murderer stringing booby-traps
>>>>>>>>>>>> for them.
>>>>>>>>>>> You still haven't answered the question: " In the case of mountain
>>>>>>>>>>> bikers, what IS the difference, except that the snake is
>>>>>>>>>>> beneficial,
>>>>>>>>>>> and the mountain biker is just destructive?". Admit it: you CAN'T.
>>>>>>>>>>> Tw
>>>>>>>>>>> ===
>>>>>>>>>> Can you read? The snake is not HUMAN.
>>>>>>>>> So what? What's the DIFFERENCE between them? DUH!
>>>>>>>> Are you seriously that stupid? They DIFFER in that one is a REPTILE
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> one is HUMAN.
>>>>>>> That is a category, not a difference.
>>>>>> Mike, categorical is one kind of differentiation. Try using a
>>>>>> dictionary.
>>>>> So you admit that you can't or won't answer the question?
>>>> There is no question. Any qualities, beneficial or not, that you choose to
>>>> imply onto a snake has no reference to any qualities you choose to imply
>>>> onto "mountain bikers".
>>>> The snake is destructive in as much as it kills and moves. How do you
>>>> measure "beneficial"? Beneficial to it's prey? Beneficial to it's
>>>> surroundings? Beneficial to humans?
>>>> Your statement that the "mountain biker is just destructive" is a
>>>> statement
>>>> made from your opinion of "mountain bikers". The ONLY difference you seem
>>>> to
>>>> care about is that the snake does not ride a bicycle and that simple fact
>>>> is
>>>> obvious and nonsense.
>>>> Your attempts to force attention away from the FACTS of the case is also
>>>> obvious.
>>>> It is FACT this man was purposefully rigging trails in such a way as to
>>>> cause injury.
>>>> It is FACT this man's activities can be classified as terrorism.
>>>> It is FACT he was breaking the law.
>>>>
>>>> Any implications you make towards the activities of cyclists while riding
>>>> are a non-issue as off-road cycling is legal and recognized. Your OPINION
>>>> has no weight in the matter
>>> Did you say somehting?
>>> ===
>> Conceding to actual fact and truth yet again as you obviously can not
>> substantiate your comments. You are truly a PATHETIC representative for
>> environmental causes as your OPINIONS are only an example of why common
>> discussion is often stalled by misconceptions and simplistic, idealistic
>> rhetoric. It is obvious you are more interested in your OPINIONS of off-road
>> cycling than you are in responsible discussion to make environmental
>> resources safer and more secure from destruction. You stand in the forest
>> looking for bicycles oblivious to the trees being cleared behind you for a
>> mall or development.
>>
>
> Did you say somehting?

yes, but you did not.

02-13-2007, 06:45 AM

On Feb 4, 11:47 pm, Mike Vandeman <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
> On Sat, 3 Feb 2007 17:59:52 -0800, "Bill Sornson" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
> wrote:
>
> >J wrote:
> >>[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>
> >> Good Job to the citizen, not police that caught this guy.
>
> >The guy needs to have the book thrown at him. Attempted murder included.
>
> Why? Mountain bikers murder horses and wildlife every day, and think
> nothing of it.

What? Mtn Bikers murder horse and wildlife? - man you are such an
*******!