Re: _The Japan We Never Knew_, by David Suzuki and Keibo Oiwa
Mike Vandeman <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:
> On Mon, 12 Feb 2007 23:02:00 GMT, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Bill Z.)
> wrote:
>
> >Mike Vandeman <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:
> >
> >What am I supposed to assume you meant by "Why don't mountain bikers
> >EVER do their own homework" in a reply to my post?
>
> That you must be a mountain biker, because you act just like them.
Posting a URL for an article about scientific research is acting
like a mountain biker?
>
> >> (I don't even subscribe to a
> >> >mountain-bike newsgroup)? Did you infer that from all the
> >> >groups you cross posted this to?
> >> >
> >> >Before calling people "idiots"
> >>
> >> You implied that no cancer means no harm. How can that be
> >> characterized as other than idiotic?
> Nonsense. I couldn't have said "cancer". because there's no evidence
> for that. There IS evidence of "benign tumors on the auditory nerve".
> You probably are thinking of something I quoted about cancer.
>
> How do you explain the benign tumors, Mr. "classical electrodynamics"?
I don't have to explain them since there is no real evidence that they
had anything to do with electromagnetic radiation at the frequency
cell phones use, for reasons pointed out to you last year.
> >> you might read your own friggin posts where you whined and whined
> >> about cancer.
> >>
> >> You are LYING -- another clue that you must be a closet mountain
> >> biker. A 2-second Google search will show you that I only quoted
> >> others.
> >
> >LOL! You quoted them as evidence to back your claims about cell
> >phones being 'bad'. Now you are trying to weasel out of it.
>
> BS. They ARE bad. But I never said it had anything to do with cancer.
Vanderman, you are a complete and utter idiot.
>
> >> >My guess is that the main risks for using a cell phone are either
> >> >being distracted while driving or being punched in the nose if you
> >> >take a call and yack in a loud voice in a theater (or otherwise use
> >> >the gadgets in some inappropriate way). You might add the very
> >> >rare cases of a defective battery that overheats (although it seems
> >> >that this is more typically the result of buying cheap batteries
> >> >that are not up to the standards the cell-phone manufacturers have).
> >> >I guess you could also drop one off of a cliff or tall building and
> >> >bean someone.
> >>
> >> Do you also belong to the Flat Earth Society?
> >
> >Do you think Dorothy's taking you to see the wizard to get a brain?
>
> Cute, but irrelevant.
In your case, I think you need more than a trip to see the wizard, but
a long session with a shrink.
Re: _The Japan We Never Knew_, by David Suzuki and Keibo Oiwa
On Feb 8, 7:05 pm, Mike Vandeman <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
> This eloquent look at the social and ecological status of several of
> the minorities and aboriginal peoples of Japan shows exactly why
> diversity should be valued: such peoples often have a clearer view,
> and more sustainable practices, than the majority culture. This is not
> just a book about Japan, but one with truly urgent and timeless value
> for all of humanity.
>
> "Many of the large, industrialized cities of Japan are ecological
> nightmares, biological deserts entombed in concrete and asphalt, with
> rivers choking on industrial sludge and garbage, air thick with
> exhaust fumes and factory emissions. The pollution became more intense
> the closer we got to Tokyo. The problems here can be seen as [as] much
> a failure of education as of politics and business. ... Around the
> world, social structures are collapsing under the weight of explosive
> population growth and massive shifts in where this population lives.
> There are enormous pressures of widespread poverty, ecological
> collapse, civil strife, and the increase in new and old diseases --
> AIDS, malaria, tuberculosis. Highly industrialized countries like
> Japan, which depend on global resources and markets, are beginning to
> confront the reality of their dependence on renewable and nonrenewable
> products, of the planet's finite limits, and of the ecological and
> social unsustainability of our high consumption lifestyle. It is from
> the turmoil within the Japan that we now see that new paradigms,
> priorities, lifestyles, and goals are emerging. They provide an
> important source of new ways of perceiving, thinking, and acting for
> all of us in the global village who strive to find ways to achieve
> social, economic, and environmental balance." pp.303-4
> ===
> I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
> humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
> years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
>
> Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!
>
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Yeah that' serious. If it was not for the debt-finance/money system,
as created by Jews which is Japans system, there would not be this
rape of their geography in the name of greed. Hitler fixed this
problem, and that's why the Jews had to get him.
Re: _The Japan We Never Knew_, by David Suzuki and Keibo Oiwa
On Tue, 13 Feb 2007 05:07:38 GMT, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Bill Z.)
wrote:
>Mike Vandeman <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:
>> There IS evidence of "benign tumors on the auditory nerve".
>> You probably are thinking of something I quoted about cancer.
>>
>> How do you explain the benign tumors, Mr. "classical electrodynamics"?
>
>I don't have to explain them since there is no real evidence that they
>had anything to do with electromagnetic radiation at the frequency
>cell phones use, for reasons pointed out to you last year.
There is scientific evidence that the cause was cell phones, because
of the location of the tumors (next to where the cell phone is held).
===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]