Ontario Helmet Law being pushed through - Page 3 - Cycling Mob: Road Cycling, Mountain Biking and More

11-05-2004, 07:08 AM

In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>, bikerider@-no-
spam-thanks-rogers.com says...
>
> I wonder why. Are you aware that mandatory helmet laws implemented in
> Alberta, Nova Scotia, New Zealand and parts of Australia have not only
> not shown benefits but have actually had negative effects (decreased
> numbers of cyclists in all cases and sometimes an increase in the rate
> of head injury after the law is enacted)?
>

Ho hum, that would be a neat trick considering the helmet laws are not
even enforced outside of Halifax in Nova Scotia. Which makes me think
the rest of these "statitics" are in quesiton.
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Chris Phillipo - Cape Breton, Nova Scotia
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11-05-2004, 07:19 AM

Chris Phillipo <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:

> In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>, bikerider@-no-
> spam-thanks-rogers.com says...
>>
>> I wonder why. Are you aware that mandatory helmet laws implemented in
>> Alberta, Nova Scotia, New Zealand and parts of Australia have not only
>> not shown benefits but have actually had negative effects (decreased
>> numbers of cyclists in all cases and sometimes an increase in the rate
>> of head injury after the law is enacted)?
>>
>
> Ho hum, that would be a neat trick considering the helmet laws are not
> even enforced outside of Halifax in Nova Scotia. Which makes me think
> the rest of these "statitics" are in quesiton.

Are you saying that people should obey the law only if it is actually and
actively enforced?

Dragan

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11-05-2004, 07:19 AM

Chris Phillipo <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:

> In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>, bikerider@-no-
> spam-thanks-rogers.com says...
>>
>> I wonder why. Are you aware that mandatory helmet laws implemented in
>> Alberta, Nova Scotia, New Zealand and parts of Australia have not only
>> not shown benefits but have actually had negative effects (decreased
>> numbers of cyclists in all cases and sometimes an increase in the rate
>> of head injury after the law is enacted)?
>>
>
> Ho hum, that would be a neat trick considering the helmet laws are not
> even enforced outside of Halifax in Nova Scotia. Which makes me think
> the rest of these "statitics" are in quesiton.

Are you saying that people should obey the law only if it is actually and
actively enforced?

Dragan

--
Dragan Cvetkovic,

To be or not to be is true. G. Boole No it isn't. L. E. J. Brouwer

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11-05-2004, 07:19 AM

Chris Phillipo <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:

> In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>, bikerider@-no-
> spam-thanks-rogers.com says...
>>
>> I wonder why. Are you aware that mandatory helmet laws implemented in
>> Alberta, Nova Scotia, New Zealand and parts of Australia have not only
>> not shown benefits but have actually had negative effects (decreased
>> numbers of cyclists in all cases and sometimes an increase in the rate
>> of head injury after the law is enacted)?
>>
>
> Ho hum, that would be a neat trick considering the helmet laws are not
> even enforced outside of Halifax in Nova Scotia. Which makes me think
> the rest of these "statitics" are in quesiton.

Are you saying that people should obey the law only if it is actually and
actively enforced?

Dragan

--
Dragan Cvetkovic,

To be or not to be is true. G. Boole No it isn't. L. E. J. Brouwer

!!! Sender/From address is bogus. Use reply-to one !!!

11-05-2004, 07:19 AM

Chris Phillipo <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:

> In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>, bikerider@-no-
> spam-thanks-rogers.com says...
>>
>> I wonder why. Are you aware that mandatory helmet laws implemented in
>> Alberta, Nova Scotia, New Zealand and parts of Australia have not only
>> not shown benefits but have actually had negative effects (decreased
>> numbers of cyclists in all cases and sometimes an increase in the rate
>> of head injury after the law is enacted)?
>>
>
> Ho hum, that would be a neat trick considering the helmet laws are not
> even enforced outside of Halifax in Nova Scotia. Which makes me think
> the rest of these "statitics" are in quesiton.

Are you saying that people should obey the law only if it is actually and
actively enforced?

Dragan

--
Dragan Cvetkovic,

To be or not to be is true. G. Boole No it isn't. L. E. J. Brouwer

!!! Sender/From address is bogus. Use reply-to one !!!

11-05-2004, 07:36 AM

In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] says...
> >
> > Ho hum, that would be a neat trick considering the helmet laws are not
> > even enforced outside of Halifax in Nova Scotia. Which makes me think
> > the rest of these "statitics" are in quesiton.
>
> Are you saying that people should obey the law only if it is actually and
> actively enforced?
>
> Dragan
>
> --
> Dragan Cvetkovic,
>

Uh, what?? I'm saying that he constantly posts statistics that claim
helmet use is detrimental to the health of the people because it deters
them from riding, I counter that in Nova Scotia helmet use is not
enforced so where exactly is this deterrent for riders? There are more
people riding here now then there ever have been. These so called
statistic rely on grad students sitting on a street corner and counting
how many cyclists go by. I haven't cycled on the street in 4 years.

--
_________________________
Chris Phillipo - Cape Breton, Nova Scotia
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

11-05-2004, 07:36 AM

In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] says...
> >
> > Ho hum, that would be a neat trick considering the helmet laws are not
> > even enforced outside of Halifax in Nova Scotia. Which makes me think
> > the rest of these "statitics" are in quesiton.
>
> Are you saying that people should obey the law only if it is actually and
> actively enforced?
>
> Dragan
>
> --
> Dragan Cvetkovic,
>

Uh, what?? I'm saying that he constantly posts statistics that claim
helmet use is detrimental to the health of the people because it deters
them from riding, I counter that in Nova Scotia helmet use is not
enforced so where exactly is this deterrent for riders? There are more
people riding here now then there ever have been. These so called
statistic rely on grad students sitting on a street corner and counting
how many cyclists go by. I haven't cycled on the street in 4 years.

--
_________________________
Chris Phillipo - Cape Breton, Nova Scotia
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

11-05-2004, 07:36 AM

In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] says...
> >
> > Ho hum, that would be a neat trick considering the helmet laws are not
> > even enforced outside of Halifax in Nova Scotia. Which makes me think
> > the rest of these "statitics" are in quesiton.
>
> Are you saying that people should obey the law only if it is actually and
> actively enforced?
>
> Dragan
>
> --
> Dragan Cvetkovic,
>

Uh, what?? I'm saying that he constantly posts statistics that claim
helmet use is detrimental to the health of the people because it deters
them from riding, I counter that in Nova Scotia helmet use is not
enforced so where exactly is this deterrent for riders? There are more
people riding here now then there ever have been. These so called
statistic rely on grad students sitting on a street corner and counting
how many cyclists go by. I haven't cycled on the street in 4 years.

--
_________________________
Chris Phillipo - Cape Breton, Nova Scotia
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

11-05-2004, 07:36 AM

In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] says...
> >
> > Ho hum, that would be a neat trick considering the helmet laws are not
> > even enforced outside of Halifax in Nova Scotia. Which makes me think
> > the rest of these "statitics" are in quesiton.
>
> Are you saying that people should obey the law only if it is actually and
> actively enforced?
>
> Dragan
>
> --
> Dragan Cvetkovic,
>

Uh, what?? I'm saying that he constantly posts statistics that claim
helmet use is detrimental to the health of the people because it deters
them from riding, I counter that in Nova Scotia helmet use is not
enforced so where exactly is this deterrent for riders? There are more
people riding here now then there ever have been. These so called
statistic rely on grad students sitting on a street corner and counting
how many cyclists go by. I haven't cycled on the street in 4 years.

--
_________________________
Chris Phillipo - Cape Breton, Nova Scotia
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

11-05-2004, 08:00 AM

On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 17:28:26 -0500, Chris B. wrote:

> Apparently they have decided to leave adult cyclists alone for
> now.

Helmet laws do nothing to stop people from riding like idiots.

Ticketing irresponsible riders might...