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11-12-2004, 10:18 AM

> (Uh, in case you missed the 'Fravia' reference, he ran an infamous
> "hacker's challenge" back in the middle 90s, and only those that won got to
> put the honorary '+' in front of their online handle.)

oh no! the '+' i use is not in anyway related to the 'Fravia' - it is
just that i want to stay +ve

i guess i shall continue to use it (for my own reasons) until someone
has an issue with me doing so.

thanks for that interesting tit-bit.

+ravi

11-12-2004, 10:18 AM

> (Uh, in case you missed the 'Fravia' reference, he ran an infamous
> "hacker's challenge" back in the middle 90s, and only those that won got to
> put the honorary '+' in front of their online handle.)

oh no! the '+' i use is not in anyway related to the 'Fravia' - it is
just that i want to stay +ve

i guess i shall continue to use it (for my own reasons) until someone
has an issue with me doing so.

thanks for that interesting tit-bit.

+ravi

11-12-2004, 10:18 AM

> (Uh, in case you missed the 'Fravia' reference, he ran an infamous
> "hacker's challenge" back in the middle 90s, and only those that won got to
> put the honorary '+' in front of their online handle.)

oh no! the '+' i use is not in anyway related to the 'Fravia' - it is
just that i want to stay +ve

i guess i shall continue to use it (for my own reasons) until someone
has an issue with me doing so.

thanks for that interesting tit-bit.

+ravi

11-12-2004, 11:57 AM

On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 10:18:08 -0800, Ravi <toravir@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> (Uh, in case you missed the 'Fravia' reference, he ran an infamous
>> "hacker's challenge" back in the middle 90s, and only those that won got to
>> put the honorary '+' in front of their online handle.)
>
>oh no! the '+' i use is not in anyway related to the 'Fravia' - it is
>just that i want to stay +ve

>
>i guess i shall continue to use it (for my own reasons) until someone
>has an issue with me doing so.
>
>thanks for that interesting tit-bit.
>
>+ravi

Sorry, didn't mean to suggest that anyone accidently using the "+" on their
handle was a poseur, or not entitled, not at all. Plus this was a long time
ago (1995ish). Just didn't want to pass up greetz to a fellow reverser. ;-)

All the Best,

-B

11-12-2004, 11:57 AM

On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 10:18:08 -0800, Ravi <toravir@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> (Uh, in case you missed the 'Fravia' reference, he ran an infamous
>> "hacker's challenge" back in the middle 90s, and only those that won got to
>> put the honorary '+' in front of their online handle.)
>
>oh no! the '+' i use is not in anyway related to the 'Fravia' - it is
>just that i want to stay +ve

>
>i guess i shall continue to use it (for my own reasons) until someone
>has an issue with me doing so.
>
>thanks for that interesting tit-bit.
>
>+ravi

Sorry, didn't mean to suggest that anyone accidently using the "+" on their
handle was a poseur, or not entitled, not at all. Plus this was a long time
ago (1995ish). Just didn't want to pass up greetz to a fellow reverser. ;-)

All the Best,

-B

11-12-2004, 11:57 AM

On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 10:18:08 -0800, Ravi <toravir@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> (Uh, in case you missed the 'Fravia' reference, he ran an infamous
>> "hacker's challenge" back in the middle 90s, and only those that won got to
>> put the honorary '+' in front of their online handle.)
>
>oh no! the '+' i use is not in anyway related to the 'Fravia' - it is
>just that i want to stay +ve

>
>i guess i shall continue to use it (for my own reasons) until someone
>has an issue with me doing so.
>
>thanks for that interesting tit-bit.
>
>+ravi

Sorry, didn't mean to suggest that anyone accidently using the "+" on their
handle was a poseur, or not entitled, not at all. Plus this was a long time
ago (1995ish). Just didn't want to pass up greetz to a fellow reverser. ;-)

All the Best,

-B

11-12-2004, 11:57 AM

On Fri, 12 Nov 2004 10:18:08 -0800, Ravi <toravir@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> (Uh, in case you missed the 'Fravia' reference, he ran an infamous
>> "hacker's challenge" back in the middle 90s, and only those that won got to
>> put the honorary '+' in front of their online handle.)
>
>oh no! the '+' i use is not in anyway related to the 'Fravia' - it is
>just that i want to stay +ve

>
>i guess i shall continue to use it (for my own reasons) until someone
>has an issue with me doing so.
>
>thanks for that interesting tit-bit.
>
>+ravi

Sorry, didn't mean to suggest that anyone accidently using the "+" on their
handle was a poseur, or not entitled, not at all. Plus this was a long time
ago (1995ish). Just didn't want to pass up greetz to a fellow reverser. ;-)

All the Best,

-B

11-12-2004, 02:30 PM

Badger Wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 13:54:36 GMT, "Peter Cole
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote
>
> >"Badger" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrot
>
> >
> >> Then he tells me "it's going to take over an hour to true th
> wheel." (!
> >
> >> Followed by: "...and this is going to cost, b/c these wheels ar
> hard t
> >> true"
>
>
> >> I'm just surprised that a wheel would take an hour to true. It's
> >>typical Trek race wheel, though with less spokes
> >
> >
> >[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>
> >A hybrid with low spoke count wheels is like a minivan with a hoo
> scoop
>
> Haha, good one. Well, blame Trek. I don't make 'em, I just bought on
> of
> the rack. ;-
>
> Maybe Mike J. can chime in and explain why this odd config of rac
> wheel
> on a hybrid
>
> >If you had standard wheels it would be a simple matter to learn t
> tru
> >them yourself. Checking wheels, brakes, bars/cranks/stems for cracks
> >adjusting cables, etc. should be skills mastered by cyclists. Th
> reason i
> >that it's just impractical to bring a bike into the shop frequentl
> enoug
> >for this if you ride a lot
>
> I was told by the LBS guys that if I did this I'd only mess up th
> adjustment, to bring it in instead. I check those things before I ride
> bu
> with my lousy vision not sure I'd be able to see a crack. I had to ge
> hel
> reading the max pressure on the new tire, lol
>
> >If you had standard wheels, I'd say the mechanic was full of it, bu
> neve
> >having worked on wheels like those, I don't know, he may have bee
> tellin
> >it like it is
>
> According to another poster, he had his done in 15-20 minutes. I don'
> understand why the mechanic kept saying 'on the bike' and 'off th
> bike
> truing (or something like that)
>
> So if I did decide to learn these things, where would I go fo
> instruction
>
> Thanks for the input, PC
>
> -B
There are good mechanics and bad ones. This is what I know. Truing ca
take five or even an hour or two depending upon the type of wheel yo
have, how out of true the wheel is, if the wheel has a hop, if th
spoke tension of the spokes is completely off, or finally the mechanic
skill.

I have had all my wheels hand built by the same mechanic for severa
years. I live in Brooklyn, NY and ride all over including streets tha
have pot holes every 5ft. I ride everyday and in the past year have ha
my wheels trued twice. First time was minor 10min job second was
redish an true 30min job.

Sounds like you have a bad mechanic. Here are a few simple tips tha
might help you in the future. Turn your bike upside down and spin you
wheel look at how the rim passes the brake pad. Does it hit the pad o
come near to hitting the pad in some sections of the wheel? If so th
wheel is out of true. When you ride do you feel a thump in either th
front or rear wheel? If so you may have a tire that needs to b
replaced or one that was put on improperly or you have a hop in you
wheel.

Trust your gut. If you just purchased a new wheel or bike then yo
should need to have your wheels trued the next day since shops true th
prepackaged wheels before they sell them. Don't forget to get off th
saddle before you hit the pothole or bump in the road. This will sav
you from having to true your wheels often.

Again, unless you hit something or drop your bike off the bike rac
etc... something serious, your mechanic should not be working on you
wheel for 60min. Heck a good mechanic can built and true a wheel in a
hour

S:

--
sheila98

11-12-2004, 02:30 PM

Badger Wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 13:54:36 GMT, "Peter Cole
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote
>
> >"Badger" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrot
>
> >
> >> Then he tells me "it's going to take over an hour to true th
> wheel." (!
> >
> >> Followed by: "...and this is going to cost, b/c these wheels ar
> hard t
> >> true"
>
>
> >> I'm just surprised that a wheel would take an hour to true. It's
> >>typical Trek race wheel, though with less spokes
> >
> >
> >[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>
> >A hybrid with low spoke count wheels is like a minivan with a hoo
> scoop
>
> Haha, good one. Well, blame Trek. I don't make 'em, I just bought on
> of
> the rack. ;-
>
> Maybe Mike J. can chime in and explain why this odd config of rac
> wheel
> on a hybrid
>
> >If you had standard wheels it would be a simple matter to learn t
> tru
> >them yourself. Checking wheels, brakes, bars/cranks/stems for cracks
> >adjusting cables, etc. should be skills mastered by cyclists. Th
> reason i
> >that it's just impractical to bring a bike into the shop frequentl
> enoug
> >for this if you ride a lot
>
> I was told by the LBS guys that if I did this I'd only mess up th
> adjustment, to bring it in instead. I check those things before I ride
> bu
> with my lousy vision not sure I'd be able to see a crack. I had to ge
> hel
> reading the max pressure on the new tire, lol
>
> >If you had standard wheels, I'd say the mechanic was full of it, bu
> neve
> >having worked on wheels like those, I don't know, he may have bee
> tellin
> >it like it is
>
> According to another poster, he had his done in 15-20 minutes. I don'
> understand why the mechanic kept saying 'on the bike' and 'off th
> bike
> truing (or something like that)
>
> So if I did decide to learn these things, where would I go fo
> instruction
>
> Thanks for the input, PC
>
> -B
There are good mechanics and bad ones. This is what I know. Truing ca
take five or even an hour or two depending upon the type of wheel yo
have, how out of true the wheel is, if the wheel has a hop, if th
spoke tension of the spokes is completely off, or finally the mechanic
skill.

I have had all my wheels hand built by the same mechanic for severa
years. I live in Brooklyn, NY and ride all over including streets tha
have pot holes every 5ft. I ride everyday and in the past year have ha
my wheels trued twice. First time was minor 10min job second was
redish an true 30min job.

Sounds like you have a bad mechanic. Here are a few simple tips tha
might help you in the future. Turn your bike upside down and spin you
wheel look at how the rim passes the brake pad. Does it hit the pad o
come near to hitting the pad in some sections of the wheel? If so th
wheel is out of true. When you ride do you feel a thump in either th
front or rear wheel? If so you may have a tire that needs to b
replaced or one that was put on improperly or you have a hop in you
wheel.

Trust your gut. If you just purchased a new wheel or bike then yo
should need to have your wheels trued the next day since shops true th
prepackaged wheels before they sell them. Don't forget to get off th
saddle before you hit the pothole or bump in the road. This will sav
you from having to true your wheels often.

Again, unless you hit something or drop your bike off the bike rac
etc... something serious, your mechanic should not be working on you
wheel for 60min. Heck a good mechanic can built and true a wheel in a
hour

S:

--
sheila98

11-12-2004, 02:30 PM

Badger Wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 13:54:36 GMT, "Peter Cole
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote
>
> >"Badger" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrot
>
> >
> >> Then he tells me "it's going to take over an hour to true th
> wheel." (!
> >
> >> Followed by: "...and this is going to cost, b/c these wheels ar
> hard t
> >> true"
>
>
> >> I'm just surprised that a wheel would take an hour to true. It's
> >>typical Trek race wheel, though with less spokes
> >
> >
> >[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>
> >A hybrid with low spoke count wheels is like a minivan with a hoo
> scoop
>
> Haha, good one. Well, blame Trek. I don't make 'em, I just bought on
> of
> the rack. ;-
>
> Maybe Mike J. can chime in and explain why this odd config of rac
> wheel
> on a hybrid
>
> >If you had standard wheels it would be a simple matter to learn t
> tru
> >them yourself. Checking wheels, brakes, bars/cranks/stems for cracks
> >adjusting cables, etc. should be skills mastered by cyclists. Th
> reason i
> >that it's just impractical to bring a bike into the shop frequentl
> enoug
> >for this if you ride a lot
>
> I was told by the LBS guys that if I did this I'd only mess up th
> adjustment, to bring it in instead. I check those things before I ride
> bu
> with my lousy vision not sure I'd be able to see a crack. I had to ge
> hel
> reading the max pressure on the new tire, lol
>
> >If you had standard wheels, I'd say the mechanic was full of it, bu
> neve
> >having worked on wheels like those, I don't know, he may have bee
> tellin
> >it like it is
>
> According to another poster, he had his done in 15-20 minutes. I don'
> understand why the mechanic kept saying 'on the bike' and 'off th
> bike
> truing (or something like that)
>
> So if I did decide to learn these things, where would I go fo
> instruction
>
> Thanks for the input, PC
>
> -B
There are good mechanics and bad ones. This is what I know. Truing ca
take five or even an hour or two depending upon the type of wheel yo
have, how out of true the wheel is, if the wheel has a hop, if th
spoke tension of the spokes is completely off, or finally the mechanic
skill.

I have had all my wheels hand built by the same mechanic for severa
years. I live in Brooklyn, NY and ride all over including streets tha
have pot holes every 5ft. I ride everyday and in the past year have ha
my wheels trued twice. First time was minor 10min job second was
redish an true 30min job.

Sounds like you have a bad mechanic. Here are a few simple tips tha
might help you in the future. Turn your bike upside down and spin you
wheel look at how the rim passes the brake pad. Does it hit the pad o
come near to hitting the pad in some sections of the wheel? If so th
wheel is out of true. When you ride do you feel a thump in either th
front or rear wheel? If so you may have a tire that needs to b
replaced or one that was put on improperly or you have a hop in you
wheel.

Trust your gut. If you just purchased a new wheel or bike then yo
should need to have your wheels trued the next day since shops true th
prepackaged wheels before they sell them. Don't forget to get off th
saddle before you hit the pothole or bump in the road. This will sav
you from having to true your wheels often.

Again, unless you hit something or drop your bike off the bike rac
etc... something serious, your mechanic should not be working on you
wheel for 60min. Heck a good mechanic can built and true a wheel in a
hour

S:

--
sheila98