Potential good news for Mt. Washington access. - Cycling Mob: Road Cycling, Mountain Biking and More

12-30-2004, 10:38 AM

It appears that cyclists may have a good case in gaining access to Mt.
Washington in New Hampshire.

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Wayne

12-30-2004, 12:01 PM

Wayne Pein writes:

> It appears that cyclists may have a good case in gaining access to
> Mt. Washington in New Hampshire.

> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

That's an interesting case considering that it is a steep road. I
don't know whether there have been any injuries from crashing
bicyclists here but in the Alps, especially in Austria, where there
are exceptionally steep mountain roads, bicycles are prohibited
downhill to prevent blowouts from overheating rims.

Zirlerberg Pass has six runaway tracks for failed automotive brakes
like this one. Bicycles are prohibited down this road but not up.

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However, the road is famous for bicycling just the same with a hill
climb similar to the old auto races except a lot slower. See bottom
of this page:

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There have been several fatal crashes of bicyclists Locally on steep
descents in which the cause was attributed to excess speed and failure
to negotiate a curve. I have not seen the bicycles involved but am
fairly sure that these were tire blow-offs, something that is easily
proven by whether the bead of the rim was on the pavement before the
crash. In the Alps, road authorities have have banned downhill
bicycling on various steep descents for this reason.

Jobst Brandt
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12-30-2004, 12:01 PM

Wayne Pein writes:

> It appears that cyclists may have a good case in gaining access to
> Mt. Washington in New Hampshire.

> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

That's an interesting case considering that it is a steep road. I
don't know whether there have been any injuries from crashing
bicyclists here but in the Alps, especially in Austria, where there
are exceptionally steep mountain roads, bicycles are prohibited
downhill to prevent blowouts from overheating rims.

Zirlerberg Pass has six runaway tracks for failed automotive brakes
like this one. Bicycles are prohibited down this road but not up.

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

However, the road is famous for bicycling just the same with a hill
climb similar to the old auto races except a lot slower. See bottom
of this page:

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

There have been several fatal crashes of bicyclists Locally on steep
descents in which the cause was attributed to excess speed and failure
to negotiate a curve. I have not seen the bicycles involved but am
fairly sure that these were tire blow-offs, something that is easily
proven by whether the bead of the rim was on the pavement before the
crash. In the Alps, road authorities have have banned downhill
bicycling on various steep descents for this reason.

Jobst Brandt
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

12-30-2004, 12:01 PM

Wayne Pein writes:

> It appears that cyclists may have a good case in gaining access to
> Mt. Washington in New Hampshire.

> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

That's an interesting case considering that it is a steep road. I
don't know whether there have been any injuries from crashing
bicyclists here but in the Alps, especially in Austria, where there
are exceptionally steep mountain roads, bicycles are prohibited
downhill to prevent blowouts from overheating rims.

Zirlerberg Pass has six runaway tracks for failed automotive brakes
like this one. Bicycles are prohibited down this road but not up.

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

However, the road is famous for bicycling just the same with a hill
climb similar to the old auto races except a lot slower. See bottom
of this page:

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

There have been several fatal crashes of bicyclists Locally on steep
descents in which the cause was attributed to excess speed and failure
to negotiate a curve. I have not seen the bicycles involved but am
fairly sure that these were tire blow-offs, something that is easily
proven by whether the bead of the rim was on the pavement before the
crash. In the Alps, road authorities have have banned downhill
bicycling on various steep descents for this reason.

Jobst Brandt
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

12-30-2004, 12:01 PM

Wayne Pein writes:

> It appears that cyclists may have a good case in gaining access to
> Mt. Washington in New Hampshire.

> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

That's an interesting case considering that it is a steep road. I
don't know whether there have been any injuries from crashing
bicyclists here but in the Alps, especially in Austria, where there
are exceptionally steep mountain roads, bicycles are prohibited
downhill to prevent blowouts from overheating rims.

Zirlerberg Pass has six runaway tracks for failed automotive brakes
like this one. Bicycles are prohibited down this road but not up.

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

However, the road is famous for bicycling just the same with a hill
climb similar to the old auto races except a lot slower. See bottom
of this page:

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

There have been several fatal crashes of bicyclists Locally on steep
descents in which the cause was attributed to excess speed and failure
to negotiate a curve. I have not seen the bicycles involved but am
fairly sure that these were tire blow-offs, something that is easily
proven by whether the bead of the rim was on the pavement before the
crash. In the Alps, road authorities have have banned downhill
bicycling on various steep descents for this reason.

Jobst Brandt
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

12-30-2004, 01:32 PM

On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 20:01:25 GMT, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
wrote:

>Wayne Pein writes:
>
>> It appears that cyclists may have a good case in gaining access to
>> Mt. Washington in New Hampshire.

It would be very dangerous to ride down MW .. especially when cars are
also going up and down.

I think what really sticks in our craws is that it costs $300 to be
allowed to ride up MW and that happens only once per year (with one
practice day.. but even then, the car that brings you down has to pay
to go up). Only 600 riders each year.

charlieb in ct

12-30-2004, 01:32 PM

On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 20:01:25 GMT, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
wrote:

>Wayne Pein writes:
>
>> It appears that cyclists may have a good case in gaining access to
>> Mt. Washington in New Hampshire.

It would be very dangerous to ride down MW .. especially when cars are
also going up and down.

I think what really sticks in our craws is that it costs $300 to be
allowed to ride up MW and that happens only once per year (with one
practice day.. but even then, the car that brings you down has to pay
to go up). Only 600 riders each year.

charlieb in ct

12-30-2004, 01:32 PM

On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 20:01:25 GMT, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
wrote:

>Wayne Pein writes:
>
>> It appears that cyclists may have a good case in gaining access to
>> Mt. Washington in New Hampshire.

It would be very dangerous to ride down MW .. especially when cars are
also going up and down.

I think what really sticks in our craws is that it costs $300 to be
allowed to ride up MW and that happens only once per year (with one
practice day.. but even then, the car that brings you down has to pay
to go up). Only 600 riders each year.

charlieb in ct

12-30-2004, 01:32 PM

On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 20:01:25 GMT, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
wrote:

>Wayne Pein writes:
>
>> It appears that cyclists may have a good case in gaining access to
>> Mt. Washington in New Hampshire.

It would be very dangerous to ride down MW .. especially when cars are
also going up and down.

I think what really sticks in our craws is that it costs $300 to be
allowed to ride up MW and that happens only once per year (with one
practice day.. but even then, the car that brings you down has to pay
to go up). Only 600 riders each year.

charlieb in ct

01-01-2005, 02:30 PM

Charles Beristain wrote:

> On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 20:01:25 GMT, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
> wrote:
>
>
>>Wayne Pein writes:
>>
>>
>>>It appears that cyclists may have a good case in gaining access to
>>>Mt. Washington in New Hampshire.
>
>
> It would be very dangerous to ride down MW .. especially when cars are
> also going up and down.
>
> I think what really sticks in our craws is that it costs $300 to be
> allowed to ride up MW and that happens only once per year (with one
> practice day.. but even then, the car that brings you down has to pay
> to go up). Only 600 riders each year.
>
> charlieb in ct

On Maui, there is a race to the top of the volcano, 38 miles 10,000 ft.
There are also tour companies that haul you and their bicycle to the
top for sunrise then follow you downhill. They can only use disk brakes
on their bicycles.