First ride review: Schwinn Sidewinder from Walmart 20.6 mile ride. - Page 46 - Cycling Mob: Road Cycling, Mountain Biking and More

01-30-2005, 06:32 PM

> "John Mustarde" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
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> This was the
>>bike I lusted after in 1964-65 but could not afford. I was
> spending
>>my own paper-route income back then. The Super Sport was
> $30-50 more
>>than the 5-speed Collegiate I bought for about $65, and the
> price
>>difference was insurmountable (and I didn't know how back
> then the
>>superior qualities of the Super Sport over the Collegiate.)

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Mike Kruger wrote:
> Nice pictures, nice bike.
> The rims look like 27 inch aluminum (and I can't imagine you'd
> be able to find an S6 cross tire any more).
> What did the bike originally come with?
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Weinmann aluminum rims, IIRC chromed Berg-Union spokes.
Can't recall the tires - SuperSport owners? Jim Adney? Bill
Putnam?

There are many brands/models of K2 27" cross tires at every
price up to about $20.

--
Andrew Muzi
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Open every day since 1 April, 1971

01-31-2005, 01:00 PM

John Mustarde <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:

>38 years later I found this Super Sport parked at a second-hand store.
>I know now I should have saved up for the Super Sport many years
>ago... but the Collegiate never let me down, and its fenders came in
>handy a few times, so who's to say...

personally, i think the difference between a collegiate (38 lbs) and a
super sport (probably 34 lbs) was smaller than the difference between
a super sport and a "lightweight" (25 lbs) bicycle 38 years ago ...

- Don Gillies
San Diego, CA

01-31-2005, 01:00 PM

John Mustarde <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:

>38 years later I found this Super Sport parked at a second-hand store.
>I know now I should have saved up for the Super Sport many years
>ago... but the Collegiate never let me down, and its fenders came in
>handy a few times, so who's to say...

personally, i think the difference between a collegiate (38 lbs) and a
super sport (probably 34 lbs) was smaller than the difference between
a super sport and a "lightweight" (25 lbs) bicycle 38 years ago ...

- Don Gillies
San Diego, CA

01-31-2005, 08:25 PM

On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 20:32:57 -0600 A Muzi <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>Mike Kruger wrote:
>> Nice pictures, nice bike.
>> The rims look like 27 inch aluminum (and I can't imagine you'd
>> be able to find an S6 cross tire any more).
>> What did the bike originally come with?
>-snip-
>
>Weinmann aluminum rims, IIRC chromed Berg-Union spokes.
>Can't recall the tires - SuperSport owners? Jim Adney? Bill
>Putnam?

Weinmann alum rims, 27 x 1-1/4", ordinary (zinc plated Torrington?)
spokes, Schwinn Puff tires.

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Jim Adney [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Madison, WI 53711 USA
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01-31-2005, 08:25 PM

On Sun, 30 Jan 2005 20:32:57 -0600 A Muzi <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>Mike Kruger wrote:
>> Nice pictures, nice bike.
>> The rims look like 27 inch aluminum (and I can't imagine you'd
>> be able to find an S6 cross tire any more).
>> What did the bike originally come with?
>-snip-
>
>Weinmann aluminum rims, IIRC chromed Berg-Union spokes.
>Can't recall the tires - SuperSport owners? Jim Adney? Bill
>Putnam?

Weinmann alum rims, 27 x 1-1/4", ordinary (zinc plated Torrington?)
spokes, Schwinn Puff tires.

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Jim Adney [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Madison, WI 53711 USA
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01-31-2005, 08:25 PM

On 31 Jan 2005 13:00:15 -0800 [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Donald Gillies)
wrote:

>John Mustarde <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:
>
>>38 years later I found this Super Sport parked at a second-hand store.
>>I know now I should have saved up for the Super Sport many years
>>ago... but the Collegiate never let me down, and its fenders came in
>>handy a few times, so who's to say...
>
>personally, i think the difference between a collegiate (38 lbs) and a
>super sport (probably 34 lbs) was smaller than the difference between
>a super sport and a "lightweight" (25 lbs) bicycle 38 years ago ...

I'm pretty sure the Super Sport comes in at just under 30 lbs. I could
weigh mine; there are quite a few things changed on it, but I doubt if
much weight has been removed.

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Jim Adney [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Madison, WI 53711 USA
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01-31-2005, 08:25 PM

On 31 Jan 2005 13:00:15 -0800 [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Donald Gillies)
wrote:

>John Mustarde <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:
>
>>38 years later I found this Super Sport parked at a second-hand store.
>>I know now I should have saved up for the Super Sport many years
>>ago... but the Collegiate never let me down, and its fenders came in
>>handy a few times, so who's to say...
>
>personally, i think the difference between a collegiate (38 lbs) and a
>super sport (probably 34 lbs) was smaller than the difference between
>a super sport and a "lightweight" (25 lbs) bicycle 38 years ago ...

I'm pretty sure the Super Sport comes in at just under 30 lbs. I could
weigh mine; there are quite a few things changed on it, but I doubt if
much weight has been removed.

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Jim Adney [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Madison, WI 53711 USA
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01-31-2005, 11:57 PM

> John Mustarde <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:
>>38 years later I found this Super Sport parked at a second-hand store.
>>I know now I should have saved up for the Super Sport many years
>>ago... but the Collegiate never let me down, and its fenders came in
>>handy a few times, so who's to say...

Donald Gillies wrote:
> personally, i think the difference between a collegiate (38 lbs) and a
> super sport (probably 34 lbs) was smaller than the difference between
> a super sport and a "lightweight" (25 lbs) bicycle 38 years ago ...

The Super Sport was a premium quality frameset, albeit a bit
heavy. The Super Sport's heft reflectd equipment choices as
much as the frame tubes. A closed top steel seatpost, steel
cranks and Brooks saddle didn't help.

A typical lightweight race bike then was 20~21lb on a 5.5lb
frameset. The SuperSport years of my Schwinn catalogs don't
show bike weight. That starts in 1974 when the Sports Tourer
(SuperSport with aluminum crank) lists at 32lbs. Your
'probably 34lb' seems right. Collegiates were 43lb.

So, yeah, a niggling 11-12 pounds or so either way.
--
Andrew Muzi
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

01-31-2005, 11:57 PM

> John Mustarde <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:
>>38 years later I found this Super Sport parked at a second-hand store.
>>I know now I should have saved up for the Super Sport many years
>>ago... but the Collegiate never let me down, and its fenders came in
>>handy a few times, so who's to say...

Donald Gillies wrote:
> personally, i think the difference between a collegiate (38 lbs) and a
> super sport (probably 34 lbs) was smaller than the difference between
> a super sport and a "lightweight" (25 lbs) bicycle 38 years ago ...

The Super Sport was a premium quality frameset, albeit a bit
heavy. The Super Sport's heft reflectd equipment choices as
much as the frame tubes. A closed top steel seatpost, steel
cranks and Brooks saddle didn't help.

A typical lightweight race bike then was 20~21lb on a 5.5lb
frameset. The SuperSport years of my Schwinn catalogs don't
show bike weight. That starts in 1974 when the Sports Tourer
(SuperSport with aluminum crank) lists at 32lbs. Your
'probably 34lb' seems right. Collegiates were 43lb.

So, yeah, a niggling 11-12 pounds or so either way.
--
Andrew Muzi
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
Open every day since 1 April, 1971