First ride review: Schwinn Sidewinder from Walmart 20.6 mile ride. - Page 9 - Cycling Mob: Road Cycling, Mountain Biking and More

01-05-2005, 09:26 PM

On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 04:37:31 GMT, "Phil, Squid-in-Training"
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>> But the one thing I noticed, people who actually ride department store
>> bikes on this group have little problems with them.
>
>There are basically three types that ride these bikes:
>1. People who buy and never ever ride.
>2. People who buy and ride the piss out of them commuting.
>3. People (teenage boys) who buy and ride the piss out of them doing things
>the bikes were never intended to do.
>
>We get lots of #3. #2 come in once in a long time. #1 come in to have
>their bikes fixed after sitting for a couple of years, usually scoffing at
>the cost of repair. And then proceed to never ride them again.
>
>So generally, I'd agree.

And after about 8 to 10 years, the folks in the first categry donate
the bike to Goodwill or dump it at a garage sale or foist it off one
someone else because they are tired of paying to put the thing back
into immediately ride-worthy shape...and have finally realized that
they really aren't going to ride it anyway.

That's when people like me get hold of them, and either ride the piss
out of them or pass them along to someone else who must be sorted into
one of the categories themselves.

I also get some pretty nice bikes through that same process. You'd be
amazed at how many people buy a decent lbs-level bike and proceed to
leave it in a corner the same way that your category-one folks do.
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01-05-2005, 09:40 PM

PSB wrote:

> ...
> Shows your bike to be a road bike. While you would kick my ass on a
> paved road, let's take your bike vs my bike on a dirt sandy road here in
> South Carolina. You won't make it half a mile. See, I bought my bike
> for the roads I ride on. A road bike don't cut it....

Troll bait for Jobst Brandt?

Ride one of the mountain bike shaped objects on single-track and it will
soon fall apart. Note that Carl Fogel's so far reliable Roadmaster Mt.
Fury has the appearance of a mountain bike, but Mr. Fogel (to judge by
his posts to rec.bicycles.tech) has not used it for any serious off-road
duty.

--
Tom Sherman - Near Rock Island

01-05-2005, 09:40 PM

PSB wrote:

> ...
> Shows your bike to be a road bike. While you would kick my ass on a
> paved road, let's take your bike vs my bike on a dirt sandy road here in
> South Carolina. You won't make it half a mile. See, I bought my bike
> for the roads I ride on. A road bike don't cut it....

Troll bait for Jobst Brandt?

Ride one of the mountain bike shaped objects on single-track and it will
soon fall apart. Note that Carl Fogel's so far reliable Roadmaster Mt.
Fury has the appearance of a mountain bike, but Mr. Fogel (to judge by
his posts to rec.bicycles.tech) has not used it for any serious off-road
duty.

--
Tom Sherman - Near Rock Island

01-05-2005, 09:40 PM

PSB wrote:

> ...
> Shows your bike to be a road bike. While you would kick my ass on a
> paved road, let's take your bike vs my bike on a dirt sandy road here in
> South Carolina. You won't make it half a mile. See, I bought my bike
> for the roads I ride on. A road bike don't cut it....

Troll bait for Jobst Brandt?

Ride one of the mountain bike shaped objects on single-track and it will
soon fall apart. Note that Carl Fogel's so far reliable Roadmaster Mt.
Fury has the appearance of a mountain bike, but Mr. Fogel (to judge by
his posts to rec.bicycles.tech) has not used it for any serious off-road
duty.

--
Tom Sherman - Near Rock Island

01-05-2005, 09:40 PM

PSB wrote:

> ...
> Shows your bike to be a road bike. While you would kick my ass on a
> paved road, let's take your bike vs my bike on a dirt sandy road here in
> South Carolina. You won't make it half a mile. See, I bought my bike
> for the roads I ride on. A road bike don't cut it....

Troll bait for Jobst Brandt?

Ride one of the mountain bike shaped objects on single-track and it will
soon fall apart. Note that Carl Fogel's so far reliable Roadmaster Mt.
Fury has the appearance of a mountain bike, but Mr. Fogel (to judge by
his posts to rec.bicycles.tech) has not used it for any serious off-road
duty.

--
Tom Sherman - Near Rock Island

01-05-2005, 10:08 PM

In article <1ohpt0pdd01oegj4h5anpq6lj070eeld0f@4ax.com>
Jeff Starr <jstarr@animalpc.com> wrote:
>
>On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 13:49:42 1100, Cyclist14
><Cyclist14.1if2mn@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote:
>
>> :-)Cheapo Bikes do not get as hard a use as high end road bikes
>Huh?
>
>>and also for a High-end bike to be lightwieght you must sacrifice some
>>durability.
>Could you explain what durability has to be sacrificed? I guess it
>would help to know what you consider a high-end bike and what you
>consider lightweight.
>
>>Cheapo bikes also have everything made of steel and
>>rejected tubing and they wiegh a ton and a half. If you want a good ,
>>reliable bike don't go below $300.00 anything below that number is
>>junk.
>Rejected tubing? And where did you come up with the $300 amount?
>>
>>Including Huffys

>
>>Cyclist 14
>Is 14 your age?
>
>Life is Good!

If they can relate.

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"Did I mention Kenny Kakes Pangborn lost a flame war to a bot and won
Usenet Clueless Newbie of the Month?" -- Aratzio

01-05-2005, 10:08 PM

In article <1ohpt0pdd01oegj4h5anpq6lj070eeld0f@4ax.com>
Jeff Starr <jstarr@animalpc.com> wrote:
>
>On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 13:49:42 1100, Cyclist14
><Cyclist14.1if2mn@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote:
>
>> :-)Cheapo Bikes do not get as hard a use as high end road bikes
>Huh?
>
>>and also for a High-end bike to be lightwieght you must sacrifice some
>>durability.
>Could you explain what durability has to be sacrificed? I guess it
>would help to know what you consider a high-end bike and what you
>consider lightweight.
>
>>Cheapo bikes also have everything made of steel and
>>rejected tubing and they wiegh a ton and a half. If you want a good ,
>>reliable bike don't go below $300.00 anything below that number is
>>junk.
>Rejected tubing? And where did you come up with the $300 amount?
>>
>>Including Huffys

>
>>Cyclist 14
>Is 14 your age?
>
>Life is Good!

If they can relate.

--
Lady Chatterly

"Did I mention Kenny Kakes Pangborn lost a flame war to a bot and won
Usenet Clueless Newbie of the Month?" -- Aratzio

01-05-2005, 10:08 PM

In article <1ohpt0pdd01oegj4h5anpq6lj070eeld0f@4ax.com>
Jeff Starr <jstarr@animalpc.com> wrote:
>
>On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 13:49:42 1100, Cyclist14
><Cyclist14.1if2mn@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote:
>
>> :-)Cheapo Bikes do not get as hard a use as high end road bikes
>Huh?
>
>>and also for a High-end bike to be lightwieght you must sacrifice some
>>durability.
>Could you explain what durability has to be sacrificed? I guess it
>would help to know what you consider a high-end bike and what you
>consider lightweight.
>
>>Cheapo bikes also have everything made of steel and
>>rejected tubing and they wiegh a ton and a half. If you want a good ,
>>reliable bike don't go below $300.00 anything below that number is
>>junk.
>Rejected tubing? And where did you come up with the $300 amount?
>>
>>Including Huffys

>
>>Cyclist 14
>Is 14 your age?
>
>Life is Good!

If they can relate.

--
Lady Chatterly

"Did I mention Kenny Kakes Pangborn lost a flame war to a bot and won
Usenet Clueless Newbie of the Month?" -- Aratzio

01-05-2005, 10:08 PM

In article <1ohpt0pdd01oegj4h5anpq6lj070eeld0f@4ax.com>
Jeff Starr <jstarr@animalpc.com> wrote:
>
>On Thu, 6 Jan 2005 13:49:42 1100, Cyclist14
><Cyclist14.1if2mn@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com> wrote:
>
>> :-)Cheapo Bikes do not get as hard a use as high end road bikes
>Huh?
>
>>and also for a High-end bike to be lightwieght you must sacrifice some
>>durability.
>Could you explain what durability has to be sacrificed? I guess it
>would help to know what you consider a high-end bike and what you
>consider lightweight.
>
>>Cheapo bikes also have everything made of steel and
>>rejected tubing and they wiegh a ton and a half. If you want a good ,
>>reliable bike don't go below $300.00 anything below that number is
>>junk.
>Rejected tubing? And where did you come up with the $300 amount?
>>
>>Including Huffys

>
>>Cyclist 14
>Is 14 your age?
>
>Life is Good!

If they can relate.

--
Lady Chatterly

"Did I mention Kenny Kakes Pangborn lost a flame war to a bot and won
Usenet Clueless Newbie of the Month?" -- Aratzio

01-05-2005, 10:21 PM

>>But the one thing I noticed, people who actually ride department store
>>bikes on this group have little problems with them.

Phil, Squid-in-Training wrote:
> There are basically three types that ride these bikes:
> 1. People who buy and never ever ride.
> 2. People who buy and ride the piss out of them commuting.
> 3. People (teenage boys) who buy and ride the piss out of them doing things
> the bikes were never intended to do.
> We get lots of #3. #2 come in once in a long time. #1 come in to have
> their bikes fixed after sitting for a couple of years, usually scoffing at
> the cost of repair. And then proceed to never ride them again.
> So generally, I'd agree.

Agreed.
And group #2 is bigger than you might think. Even when the
bike's badly worn (loose bearings, bent wheels, pads worn to
the metal) they plod to work every day without complaint.

[After repairing flat] "I see your front brake pads are worn
out. Only $7.95 for a new pair"
"I don't use that one"

And Ron's front changer from the other day.
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