Metal flake in brake pad... - Page 13 - Cycling Mob: Road Cycling, Mountain Biking and More

01-14-2005, 06:48 PM

maxo wrote:
> On Thu, 13 Jan 2005 23:11:49 -0600, Mike Kruger wrote:
>
>> You are certainly right that sealed bearings are no
panacea.
>> I purposely bought this winter bike with a sealed bottom
>> bracket, but the BB needed replacement one year later,
>> probably due to salt.
>
> was the bb shot on the bike w/ fenders? When I lived in
Chicago my
> winter ride needed the hubs repacked once per season (at
least) and
> as you mentioned, cheap due to traditional cup and cone
servicing (30
> minutes and a beer, and a few pennies worth of grease) but
I never
> managed to kill my cheapo Shimano cartridge BB or
(traditional)
> headset in three years of brutal salty commuting.

I was surprised, too, but did run into some similar stories
on the "Icebike" list.

By soaking it on motor oil for a long time I was able to get
it to turn usefully again and use it for a few days, but I'd
ordered a replacement and put the replacement in when it
arrived. The replacement's on it's 5th winter, so it's doing
a lot better.

If you think about the leverage involved on a BB, it has to
be pretty jammed up before it won't turn unless I'm standing
up on it with all 200 pounds. My theory is that it was some
combination of salt and rust.

01-14-2005, 10:38 PM

> I bet you're more endeared to your Iron Pig than you realize.
> Maybe even more than in 1973. After all, you dedicated a
> whole web page to her :-)

You're right, I am. Today my service manager and I spent a bit of time
taking photos of how bad it got, and what's involved in cleaning her up.
More web pages devoted to her shortly as we get her back in shape again!

Of the things I really dislike, one of the most-annoying seem to be the
170mm cranks. I could stick something "common" on her, but it just seems
like there should be a minimum of Shimano equipment on a bike like that.
Alas, no old Campy 175mm doubles in stock, and I can't see spending a whole
lot of money on anything modern. But if I could get the right cranks, and
then maybe figure a way to work Ergo shifting on a 120mm tail section...

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
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01-14-2005, 10:38 PM

> I bet you're more endeared to your Iron Pig than you realize.
> Maybe even more than in 1973. After all, you dedicated a
> whole web page to her :-)

You're right, I am. Today my service manager and I spent a bit of time
taking photos of how bad it got, and what's involved in cleaning her up.
More web pages devoted to her shortly as we get her back in shape again!

Of the things I really dislike, one of the most-annoying seem to be the
170mm cranks. I could stick something "common" on her, but it just seems
like there should be a minimum of Shimano equipment on a bike like that.
Alas, no old Campy 175mm doubles in stock, and I can't see spending a whole
lot of money on anything modern. But if I could get the right cranks, and
then maybe figure a way to work Ergo shifting on a 120mm tail section...

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

01-14-2005, 10:38 PM

> I bet you're more endeared to your Iron Pig than you realize.
> Maybe even more than in 1973. After all, you dedicated a
> whole web page to her :-)

You're right, I am. Today my service manager and I spent a bit of time
taking photos of how bad it got, and what's involved in cleaning her up.
More web pages devoted to her shortly as we get her back in shape again!

Of the things I really dislike, one of the most-annoying seem to be the
170mm cranks. I could stick something "common" on her, but it just seems
like there should be a minimum of Shimano equipment on a bike like that.
Alas, no old Campy 175mm doubles in stock, and I can't see spending a whole
lot of money on anything modern. But if I could get the right cranks, and
then maybe figure a way to work Ergo shifting on a 120mm tail section...

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

01-14-2005, 11:20 PM

In article <TT2Gd.11587$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].prodigy.com >,
"Mike Jacoubowsky" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:

> Of the things I really dislike, one of the most-annoying seem to be the
> 170mm cranks. I could stick something "common" on her, but it just seems
> like there should be a minimum of Shimano equipment on a bike like that.
> Alas, no old Campy 175mm doubles in stock, and I can't see spending a whole
> lot of money on anything modern.

I'll keep my eyes open for a nice old Sugino 2-ringer w/ 175mm
cranks for ya :-)

cheers,
Tom

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01-14-2005, 11:20 PM

In article <TT2Gd.11587$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].prodigy.com >,
"Mike Jacoubowsky" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:

> Of the things I really dislike, one of the most-annoying seem to be the
> 170mm cranks. I could stick something "common" on her, but it just seems
> like there should be a minimum of Shimano equipment on a bike like that.
> Alas, no old Campy 175mm doubles in stock, and I can't see spending a whole
> lot of money on anything modern.

I'll keep my eyes open for a nice old Sugino 2-ringer w/ 175mm
cranks for ya :-)

cheers,
Tom

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01-14-2005, 11:20 PM

In article <TT2Gd.11587$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].prodigy.com >,
"Mike Jacoubowsky" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:

> Of the things I really dislike, one of the most-annoying seem to be the
> 170mm cranks. I could stick something "common" on her, but it just seems
> like there should be a minimum of Shimano equipment on a bike like that.
> Alas, no old Campy 175mm doubles in stock, and I can't see spending a whole
> lot of money on anything modern.

I'll keep my eyes open for a nice old Sugino 2-ringer w/ 175mm
cranks for ya :-)

cheers,
Tom

--
-- Nothing is safe from me.
Above address is just a spam midden.
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01-15-2005, 01:04 AM

>> Of the things I really dislike, one of the most-annoying seem to be the
>> 170mm cranks. I could stick something "common" on her, but it just seems
>> like there should be a minimum of Shimano equipment on a bike like that.
>> Alas, no old Campy 175mm doubles in stock, and I can't see spending a
>> whole
>> lot of money on anything modern.
>
> I'll keep my eyes open for a nice old Sugino 2-ringer w/ 175mm
> cranks for ya :-)

Thanks, but I think it needs to be Campy. Maybe an old Athena or something
like that. The one exception I'll make is that I'll probably use a Phil BB
if the crank requires something that predates modern cartridge BBs.

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

"Tom Keats" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:87gasc.8c8.ln@bud.garden.local...
> In article <TT2Gd.11587$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].prodigy.com >,
> "Mike Jacoubowsky" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:
>
>> Of the things I really dislike, one of the most-annoying seem to be the
>> 170mm cranks. I could stick something "common" on her, but it just seems
>> like there should be a minimum of Shimano equipment on a bike like that.
>> Alas, no old Campy 175mm doubles in stock, and I can't see spending a
>> whole
>> lot of money on anything modern.
>
> I'll keep my eyes open for a nice old Sugino 2-ringer w/ 175mm
> cranks for ya :-)
>
>
>
> cheers,
> Tom
>
> --
> -- Nothing is safe from me.
> Above address is just a spam midden.
> I'm really at: tkeats [curlicue] vcn [point] bc [point] ca

01-15-2005, 01:04 AM

>> Of the things I really dislike, one of the most-annoying seem to be the
>> 170mm cranks. I could stick something "common" on her, but it just seems
>> like there should be a minimum of Shimano equipment on a bike like that.
>> Alas, no old Campy 175mm doubles in stock, and I can't see spending a
>> whole
>> lot of money on anything modern.
>
> I'll keep my eyes open for a nice old Sugino 2-ringer w/ 175mm
> cranks for ya :-)

Thanks, but I think it needs to be Campy. Maybe an old Athena or something
like that. The one exception I'll make is that I'll probably use a Phil BB
if the crank requires something that predates modern cartridge BBs.

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

"Tom Keats" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:87gasc.8c8.ln@bud.garden.local...
> In article <TT2Gd.11587$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].prodigy.com >,
> "Mike Jacoubowsky" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:
>
>> Of the things I really dislike, one of the most-annoying seem to be the
>> 170mm cranks. I could stick something "common" on her, but it just seems
>> like there should be a minimum of Shimano equipment on a bike like that.
>> Alas, no old Campy 175mm doubles in stock, and I can't see spending a
>> whole
>> lot of money on anything modern.
>
> I'll keep my eyes open for a nice old Sugino 2-ringer w/ 175mm
> cranks for ya :-)
>
>
>
> cheers,
> Tom
>
> --
> -- Nothing is safe from me.
> Above address is just a spam midden.
> I'm really at: tkeats [curlicue] vcn [point] bc [point] ca

01-15-2005, 01:04 AM

>> Of the things I really dislike, one of the most-annoying seem to be the
>> 170mm cranks. I could stick something "common" on her, but it just seems
>> like there should be a minimum of Shimano equipment on a bike like that.
>> Alas, no old Campy 175mm doubles in stock, and I can't see spending a
>> whole
>> lot of money on anything modern.
>
> I'll keep my eyes open for a nice old Sugino 2-ringer w/ 175mm
> cranks for ya :-)

Thanks, but I think it needs to be Campy. Maybe an old Athena or something
like that. The one exception I'll make is that I'll probably use a Phil BB
if the crank requires something that predates modern cartridge BBs.

--Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

"Tom Keats" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:87gasc.8c8.ln@bud.garden.local...
> In article <TT2Gd.11587$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].prodigy.com >,
> "Mike Jacoubowsky" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:
>
>> Of the things I really dislike, one of the most-annoying seem to be the
>> 170mm cranks. I could stick something "common" on her, but it just seems
>> like there should be a minimum of Shimano equipment on a bike like that.
>> Alas, no old Campy 175mm doubles in stock, and I can't see spending a
>> whole
>> lot of money on anything modern.
>
> I'll keep my eyes open for a nice old Sugino 2-ringer w/ 175mm
> cranks for ya :-)
>
>
>
> cheers,
> Tom
>
> --
> -- Nothing is safe from me.
> Above address is just a spam midden.
> I'm really at: tkeats [curlicue] vcn [point] bc [point] ca