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03-06-2005, 12:39 PM

Maggie wrote:

> ...
> The only rewarding construction is building a shed in the back yard for
> yourself. Or building anything on your own. And even then you may have
> to deal with zoning. Maybe building a birdhouse would be rewarding. A
> 10 million dollar building is another story. It is one cut throat back
> stabbing business and you have to be tough as nails to be in it to win
> it.

I built a birdhouse out of 20,000 psi silica fume/Portland cement/carbon
fiber mix.

--
Tom Sherman - Earth

03-06-2005, 12:47 PM

Maggie wrote:

> Tom Sherman wrote:
>
>>Zoot Katz wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Thu, 24 Feb 2005 18:38:41 -0600, <387acdF5mf957U1@individual.net>,
>>>"Pat" <Pat@newstime.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Just doing something from start to finish and seeing the results is
>>>>rewarding. Now, I know why so many people like working in
>
> construction....
>
>>>
>>>It has its moments but you usually end up having worked yourself
>
> out
>
>>>of a job. The daily progress in the early stages is satisfying but
>>>when you get down to the details it can start to drag.
>>
>>Punch list!
>>
>>The best part of construction is arguing over payment for change
>
> orders
>
>>and changed conditions.

>>
>>--
>>Tom Sherman - Earth
>
>
> Someone is speaking my language. The never ending punch list and
> "Change Orders" the nectar of construction. I may not know anything
> about bicycles yet, but I know the field of commercial construction.
>
> Anyone who finds construction rewarding never worked with architects,
> engineers, town officials and subcontractors who won't follow the
> project schedule....

Most start out by blaming the poor soils engineer who received the RFP
less than a week before the report is needed, and is expected to bump
THE PROJECT ahead of all his/her other clients' projects.

--
Tom Sherman - Earth

03-06-2005, 12:47 PM

Maggie wrote:

> Tom Sherman wrote:
>
>>Zoot Katz wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Thu, 24 Feb 2005 18:38:41 -0600, <387acdF5mf957U1@individual.net>,
>>>"Pat" <Pat@newstime.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Just doing something from start to finish and seeing the results is
>>>>rewarding. Now, I know why so many people like working in
>
> construction....
>
>>>
>>>It has its moments but you usually end up having worked yourself
>
> out
>
>>>of a job. The daily progress in the early stages is satisfying but
>>>when you get down to the details it can start to drag.
>>
>>Punch list!
>>
>>The best part of construction is arguing over payment for change
>
> orders
>
>>and changed conditions.

>>
>>--
>>Tom Sherman - Earth
>
>
> Someone is speaking my language. The never ending punch list and
> "Change Orders" the nectar of construction. I may not know anything
> about bicycles yet, but I know the field of commercial construction.
>
> Anyone who finds construction rewarding never worked with architects,
> engineers, town officials and subcontractors who won't follow the
> project schedule....

Most start out by blaming the poor soils engineer who received the RFP
less than a week before the report is needed, and is expected to bump
THE PROJECT ahead of all his/her other clients' projects.

--
Tom Sherman - Earth

03-07-2005, 05:20 AM

Tom Sherman wrote:
> Maggie wrote:
>
> > Tom Sherman wrote:
> >
> >>Zoot Katz wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Thu, 24 Feb 2005 18:38:41 -0600, <387acdF5mf957U1@individual.net>,
> >>>"Pat" <Pat@newstime.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Just doing something from start to finish and seeing the results
is
> >>>>rewarding. Now, I know why so many people like working in
> >
> > construction....
> >
> >>>
> >>>It has its moments but you usually end up having worked yourself
> >
> > out
> >
> >>>of a job. The daily progress in the early stages is satisfying but
> >>>when you get down to the details it can start to drag.
> >>
> >>Punch list!
> >>
> >>The best part of construction is arguing over payment for change
> >
> > orders
> >
> >>and changed conditions.

> >>
> >>--
> >>Tom Sherman - Earth
> >
> >
> > Someone is speaking my language. The never ending punch list and
> > "Change Orders" the nectar of construction. I may not know
anything
> > about bicycles yet, but I know the field of commercial
construction.
> >
> > Anyone who finds construction rewarding never worked with
architects,
> > engineers, town officials and subcontractors who won't follow the
> > project schedule....
>
> Most start out by blaming the poor soils engineer who received the
RFP
> less than a week before the report is needed, and is expected to bump

> THE PROJECT ahead of all his/her other clients' projects.

>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Earth

Are you a soils engineer Tom? For what the soil engineers charge to
check the soil for possible contamination, they should be able to
perform miracles for the contractor.

Soil Engineers can be seen doing lunch with waste management at Joey
the Gent's pizzeria wearing Armani. Whats up with that?

If you do not live in New Jersey, maybe there is no connection. ;-)
All Good things
Maggie

03-07-2005, 05:20 AM

Tom Sherman wrote:
> Maggie wrote:
>
> > Tom Sherman wrote:
> >
> >>Zoot Katz wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Thu, 24 Feb 2005 18:38:41 -0600, <387acdF5mf957U1@individual.net>,
> >>>"Pat" <Pat@newstime.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Just doing something from start to finish and seeing the results
is
> >>>>rewarding. Now, I know why so many people like working in
> >
> > construction....
> >
> >>>
> >>>It has its moments but you usually end up having worked yourself
> >
> > out
> >
> >>>of a job. The daily progress in the early stages is satisfying but
> >>>when you get down to the details it can start to drag.
> >>
> >>Punch list!
> >>
> >>The best part of construction is arguing over payment for change
> >
> > orders
> >
> >>and changed conditions.

> >>
> >>--
> >>Tom Sherman - Earth
> >
> >
> > Someone is speaking my language. The never ending punch list and
> > "Change Orders" the nectar of construction. I may not know
anything
> > about bicycles yet, but I know the field of commercial
construction.
> >
> > Anyone who finds construction rewarding never worked with
architects,
> > engineers, town officials and subcontractors who won't follow the
> > project schedule....
>
> Most start out by blaming the poor soils engineer who received the
RFP
> less than a week before the report is needed, and is expected to bump

> THE PROJECT ahead of all his/her other clients' projects.

>
> --
> Tom Sherman - Earth

Are you a soils engineer Tom? For what the soil engineers charge to
check the soil for possible contamination, they should be able to
perform miracles for the contractor.

Soil Engineers can be seen doing lunch with waste management at Joey
the Gent's pizzeria wearing Armani. Whats up with that?

If you do not live in New Jersey, maybe there is no connection. ;-)
All Good things
Maggie

03-07-2005, 10:25 AM

On 7 Mar 2005 05:20:39 -0800, "Maggie" <lbuset@allsecretarial.com> wrote:

>
>Tom Sherman wrote:
>> Maggie wrote:
>>
>> > Tom Sherman wrote:
>> >
>> >>Zoot Katz wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>Thu, 24 Feb 2005 18:38:41 -0600, <387acdF5mf957U1@individual.net>,
>> >>>"Pat" <Pat@newstime.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>Just doing something from start to finish and seeing the results
>is
>> >>>>rewarding. Now, I know why so many people like working in
>> >
>> > construction....
>> >
>> >>>
>> >>>It has its moments but you usually end up having worked yourself
>> >
>> > out
>> >
>> >>>of a job. The daily progress in the early stages is satisfying but
>> >>>when you get down to the details it can start to drag.
>> >>
>> >>Punch list!
>> >>
>> >>The best part of construction is arguing over payment for change
>> >
>> > orders
>> >
>> >>and changed conditions.

>> >>
>> >>--
>> >>Tom Sherman - Earth
>> >
>> >
>> > Someone is speaking my language. The never ending punch list and
>> > "Change Orders" the nectar of construction. I may not know
>anything
>> > about bicycles yet, but I know the field of commercial
>construction.
>> >
>> > Anyone who finds construction rewarding never worked with
>architects,
>> > engineers, town officials and subcontractors who won't follow the
>> > project schedule....
>>
>> Most start out by blaming the poor soils engineer who received the
>RFP
>> less than a week before the report is needed, and is expected to bump
>
>> THE PROJECT ahead of all his/her other clients' projects.

>>
>> --
>> Tom Sherman - Earth
>
>Are you a soils engineer Tom? For what the soil engineers charge to
>check the soil for possible contamination, they should be able to
>perform miracles for the contractor.
>
>Soil Engineers can be seen doing lunch with waste management at Joey
>the Gent's pizzeria wearing Armani. Whats up with that?
>
>If you do not live in New Jersey, maybe there is no connection. ;-)

Here in Florida they show up in baggy shorts, sandals a goatee and geek glasses.
They're probably richer than the ones in Jersey.

Ron

03-07-2005, 10:25 AM

On 7 Mar 2005 05:20:39 -0800, "Maggie" <lbuset@allsecretarial.com> wrote:

>
>Tom Sherman wrote:
>> Maggie wrote:
>>
>> > Tom Sherman wrote:
>> >
>> >>Zoot Katz wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>>Thu, 24 Feb 2005 18:38:41 -0600, <387acdF5mf957U1@individual.net>,
>> >>>"Pat" <Pat@newstime.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>>Just doing something from start to finish and seeing the results
>is
>> >>>>rewarding. Now, I know why so many people like working in
>> >
>> > construction....
>> >
>> >>>
>> >>>It has its moments but you usually end up having worked yourself
>> >
>> > out
>> >
>> >>>of a job. The daily progress in the early stages is satisfying but
>> >>>when you get down to the details it can start to drag.
>> >>
>> >>Punch list!
>> >>
>> >>The best part of construction is arguing over payment for change
>> >
>> > orders
>> >
>> >>and changed conditions.

>> >>
>> >>--
>> >>Tom Sherman - Earth
>> >
>> >
>> > Someone is speaking my language. The never ending punch list and
>> > "Change Orders" the nectar of construction. I may not know
>anything
>> > about bicycles yet, but I know the field of commercial
>construction.
>> >
>> > Anyone who finds construction rewarding never worked with
>architects,
>> > engineers, town officials and subcontractors who won't follow the
>> > project schedule....
>>
>> Most start out by blaming the poor soils engineer who received the
>RFP
>> less than a week before the report is needed, and is expected to bump
>
>> THE PROJECT ahead of all his/her other clients' projects.

>>
>> --
>> Tom Sherman - Earth
>
>Are you a soils engineer Tom? For what the soil engineers charge to
>check the soil for possible contamination, they should be able to
>perform miracles for the contractor.
>
>Soil Engineers can be seen doing lunch with waste management at Joey
>the Gent's pizzeria wearing Armani. Whats up with that?
>
>If you do not live in New Jersey, maybe there is no connection. ;-)

Here in Florida they show up in baggy shorts, sandals a goatee and geek glasses.
They're probably richer than the ones in Jersey.

Ron