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02-28-2005, 07:24 AM

On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 22:53:07 -0700, Snowboard3r wrote:

> I am looking for the best tubes available. I rode my bike for the first
> time, and came home with a flat, we have alot of puncture weeds. I put some
> slime in the tire, was great until I rode again the next day, tires went
> flat again, I filled them up and they held air, I noticed the slime on the
> outside of the tire. Went for another ride, came back and the tires were
> flat again.

The first thing would be to repair the tubes, instead of just sliming
them. That also means getting the thorns out of the tire casing, so they
don't continually cause more flats.

It's not really a question of the tubes. Any tube will be punctured by a
long thorn, or sliver of glass. When you get the flat, change the tube
and make sure you get the sharp thing out of the tire, or it will cause
another flat.

You can get thicker, tougher tires. Others will recommend those. You can
also get liners between the tire and the tube, which might help some. I
don't do either of these things. You should also learn to spot those
hazardous weeds and avoid them.

--

David L. Johnson

__o | Accept risk. Accept responsibility. Put a lawyer out of
_`\(,_ | business.
(_)/ (_) |

02-28-2005, 08:53 AM

Yea I did that. There wasn't anything left in the tire, we have alot of
puncture (goat head) weeds around here.

Thanks

Shane

"NY Rides" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:b3FUd.5448$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> Did you make sure to run your hand (carefully) around the inside of the
tire
> to remove whatever may have punctured the tube in the first place?
>
>
> "Snowboard3r" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> news:LkyUd.12276$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> > I am looking for the best tubes available. I rode my bike for the first
> > time, and came home with a flat, we have alot of puncture weeds. I put
> some
> > slime in the tire, was great until I rode again the next day, tires went
> > flat again, I filled them up and they held air, I noticed the slime on
the
> > outside of the tire. Went for another ride, came back and the tires
were
> > flat again.
> >
> > Anyone have any ideas on what to use?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Shane
> >
> >
> >
>
>

02-28-2005, 08:53 AM

Yea I did that. There wasn't anything left in the tire, we have alot of
puncture (goat head) weeds around here.

Thanks

Shane

"NY Rides" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:b3FUd.5448$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> Did you make sure to run your hand (carefully) around the inside of the
tire
> to remove whatever may have punctured the tube in the first place?
>
>
> "Snowboard3r" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> news:LkyUd.12276$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> > I am looking for the best tubes available. I rode my bike for the first
> > time, and came home with a flat, we have alot of puncture weeds. I put
> some
> > slime in the tire, was great until I rode again the next day, tires went
> > flat again, I filled them up and they held air, I noticed the slime on
the
> > outside of the tire. Went for another ride, came back and the tires
were
> > flat again.
> >
> > Anyone have any ideas on what to use?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Shane
> >
> >
> >
>
>

02-28-2005, 08:56 AM

Sorry...yea it is a Mountain Bike, we have a S$#t load of those goat head
puncture weeds up here in Utah. They are very annoying. I don't like the
"airless" tubes mainly for the comfort reason. I guess I will look at the
strips that go the tire to prevent the puncture weeds from poking through.
Have you heard any thing good about the thicker tubes (puncture resistance)?

"Werehatrack" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 22:53:07 -0700, "Snowboard3r"
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> may have said:
>
> >I am looking for the best tubes available. I rode my bike for the first
> >time, and came home with a flat, we have alot of puncture weeds. I put
some
> >slime in the tire, was great until I rode again the next day, tires went
> >flat again, I filled them up and they held air, I noticed the slime on
the
> >outside of the tire. Went for another ride, came back and the tires were
> >flat again.
> >
> >Anyone have any ideas on what to use?
>
> You didn't say if this was a road bike or an mtb; tactics vary
> accordingly. On mountain bikes, in places where goatheads are
> common, some people report nearly tolerable (IMO) results with a
> combination of a puncture-resistant tire, a puncture-resistant tire
> liner, and either a thick tube or Slime, or both. In my limited
> experience with this hazard, however, the only real defense is to ride
> where they aren't. If that's not an option, resign yourself to
> becoming adept with patches.
>
> Bear in mind that if you adopt Slime as part of the approach, you'll
> have more work to do when patching the tubes...and you'll still have
> to patch or replace them eventually.
>
> Someone will doubtless mention the foam-filled "airless" tire and tube
> conversions that are available. For a variety of reasons (centering
> around their inherent inability to distribute point loads in the same
> way as a pneumatic tire can), these are generally disparaged by
> experienced riders. Yes, an "airless" tire setup is immune to going
> flat. It's also immune to providing the same level of ride comfort
> and operational efficiency as an average pneumatic. Whether its
> shortcomings are counterbalanced when comparing to a
> puncture-resistant setup is a matter of opinion, needs, conditions and
> priorities.
>
> --
> My email address is antispammed; pull WEEDS if replying via e-mail.
> Typoes are not a bug, they're a feature.
> Words processed in a facility that contains nuts.

02-28-2005, 08:56 AM

Sorry...yea it is a Mountain Bike, we have a S$#t load of those goat head
puncture weeds up here in Utah. They are very annoying. I don't like the
"airless" tubes mainly for the comfort reason. I guess I will look at the
strips that go the tire to prevent the puncture weeds from poking through.
Have you heard any thing good about the thicker tubes (puncture resistance)?

"Werehatrack" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> On Sun, 27 Feb 2005 22:53:07 -0700, "Snowboard3r"
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> may have said:
>
> >I am looking for the best tubes available. I rode my bike for the first
> >time, and came home with a flat, we have alot of puncture weeds. I put
some
> >slime in the tire, was great until I rode again the next day, tires went
> >flat again, I filled them up and they held air, I noticed the slime on
the
> >outside of the tire. Went for another ride, came back and the tires were
> >flat again.
> >
> >Anyone have any ideas on what to use?
>
> You didn't say if this was a road bike or an mtb; tactics vary
> accordingly. On mountain bikes, in places where goatheads are
> common, some people report nearly tolerable (IMO) results with a
> combination of a puncture-resistant tire, a puncture-resistant tire
> liner, and either a thick tube or Slime, or both. In my limited
> experience with this hazard, however, the only real defense is to ride
> where they aren't. If that's not an option, resign yourself to
> becoming adept with patches.
>
> Bear in mind that if you adopt Slime as part of the approach, you'll
> have more work to do when patching the tubes...and you'll still have
> to patch or replace them eventually.
>
> Someone will doubtless mention the foam-filled "airless" tire and tube
> conversions that are available. For a variety of reasons (centering
> around their inherent inability to distribute point loads in the same
> way as a pneumatic tire can), these are generally disparaged by
> experienced riders. Yes, an "airless" tire setup is immune to going
> flat. It's also immune to providing the same level of ride comfort
> and operational efficiency as an average pneumatic. Whether its
> shortcomings are counterbalanced when comparing to a
> puncture-resistant setup is a matter of opinion, needs, conditions and
> priorities.
>
> --
> My email address is antispammed; pull WEEDS if replying via e-mail.
> Typoes are not a bug, they're a feature.
> Words processed in a facility that contains nuts.

02-28-2005, 09:25 AM

On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 09:56:38 -0700, Snowboard3r wrote:

> Sorry...yea it is a Mountain Bike, we have a S$#t load of those goat head
> puncture weeds up here in Utah. They are very annoying. I don't like the
> "airless" tubes mainly for the comfort reason. I guess I will look at the
> strips that go the tire to prevent the puncture weeds from poking through.
> Have you heard any thing good about the thicker tubes (puncture resistance)?

The problem with that is that the thicker tubes are at most 1/8" thicker.
You already have, I'm sure knobbies with quite thick tread on the knobs,
but also pretty thick in between. If that won't stop the thorns from
getting through, another bit of thickness on the tube won't do it, either.
Maybe a liner might help some, but mostly it's watchfulness to not ride
on the darn things.

--

David L. Johnson

__o | "What am I on? I'm on my bike, six hours a day, busting my ass.
_`\(,_ | What are you on?" --Lance Armstrong
(_)/ (_) |

02-28-2005, 09:25 AM

On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 09:56:38 -0700, Snowboard3r wrote:

> Sorry...yea it is a Mountain Bike, we have a S$#t load of those goat head
> puncture weeds up here in Utah. They are very annoying. I don't like the
> "airless" tubes mainly for the comfort reason. I guess I will look at the
> strips that go the tire to prevent the puncture weeds from poking through.
> Have you heard any thing good about the thicker tubes (puncture resistance)?

The problem with that is that the thicker tubes are at most 1/8" thicker.
You already have, I'm sure knobbies with quite thick tread on the knobs,
but also pretty thick in between. If that won't stop the thorns from
getting through, another bit of thickness on the tube won't do it, either.
Maybe a liner might help some, but mostly it's watchfulness to not ride
on the darn things.

--

David L. Johnson

__o | "What am I on? I'm on my bike, six hours a day, busting my ass.
_`\(,_ | What are you on?" --Lance Armstrong
(_)/ (_) |

02-28-2005, 07:27 PM

Snowboard3r wrote:
> Sorry...yea it is a Mountain Bike, we have a S$#t load of those goat head
> puncture weeds up here in Utah. They are very annoying. I don't like the
> "airless" tubes mainly for the comfort reason. I guess I will look at the
> strips that go the tire to prevent the puncture weeds from poking through.
> Have you heard any thing good about the th

I've use puncture resistant tubes on my mt bike in Colorado for the last
8 years or so and have gotten very few flats with them (maybe one a
year, but I'm just an occasional rider). Before using them I got flats
all the time (I only did that for one summer, then I got smart)

Rich

02-28-2005, 07:27 PM

Snowboard3r wrote:
> Sorry...yea it is a Mountain Bike, we have a S$#t load of those goat head
> puncture weeds up here in Utah. They are very annoying. I don't like the
> "airless" tubes mainly for the comfort reason. I guess I will look at the
> strips that go the tire to prevent the puncture weeds from poking through.
> Have you heard any thing good about the th

I've use puncture resistant tubes on my mt bike in Colorado for the last
8 years or so and have gotten very few flats with them (maybe one a
year, but I'm just an occasional rider). Before using them I got flats
all the time (I only did that for one summer, then I got smart)

Rich

03-02-2005, 07:44 PM

Snowboard3r wrote:

> I am looking for the best tubes available. I rode my bike for the first
> time, and came home with a flat, we have alot of puncture weeds. I put some
> slime in the tire, was great until I rode again the next day, tires went
> flat again, I filled them up and they held air, I noticed the slime on the
> outside of the tire. Went for another ride, came back and the tires were
> flat again.
>
> Anyone have any ideas on what to use?

Have one of these out front:
<http://www.elginsweeper.com/roadwizard/index.asp>.

--
Tom Sherman - Earth