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03-02-2005, 09:09 PM

"Mike Jacoubowsky/Chain Reaction Bicycles" wrote: (clip) you've helped
many others, not just those working there but also cyclists who do business
there.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
And the store management.

03-03-2005, 12:31 AM

Wed, 2 Mar 2005 19:04:56 -0500,
<422654a8$0$166$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>,
"Mary" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>I am not in a position to
>spend that kind of $$ right now. For now I'll stick with my Trek1200 and
>enjoy myself. I can always dream of a new bike in the future.

David Bohm of Bohemian Bikes builds machines to dream about.
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

Be sure to check out this one:
http://www.bohemianbicycles.com/imag...headtube_1.jpg

Or more possibly:
--
zk

03-03-2005, 12:31 AM

Wed, 2 Mar 2005 19:04:56 -0500,
<422654a8$0$166$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>,
"Mary" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>I am not in a position to
>spend that kind of $$ right now. For now I'll stick with my Trek1200 and
>enjoy myself. I can always dream of a new bike in the future.

David Bohm of Bohemian Bikes builds machines to dream about.
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

Be sure to check out this one:
http://www.bohemianbicycles.com/imag...headtube_1.jpg

Or more possibly:
--
zk

03-03-2005, 05:13 AM

>
> David Bohm of Bohemian Bikes builds machines to dream about.
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>
> Be sure to check out this one:
> http://www.bohemianbicycles.com/imag...headtube_1.jpg
>

I've seen his bikes one time -- at El Tour de Tucson a few years back.
Absolutely jaw-dropping gorgeous work. I can't attest to how they
ride, but the bike porn value of the Bohemian bikes is off the charts.

03-03-2005, 05:13 AM

>
> David Bohm of Bohemian Bikes builds machines to dream about.
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
>
> Be sure to check out this one:
> http://www.bohemianbicycles.com/imag...headtube_1.jpg
>

I've seen his bikes one time -- at El Tour de Tucson a few years back.
Absolutely jaw-dropping gorgeous work. I can't attest to how they
ride, but the bike porn value of the Bohemian bikes is off the charts.

03-03-2005, 06:18 AM

Leo Lichtman wrote:
> "Mike Jacoubowsky/Chain Reaction Bicycles" wrote: (clip) you've helped
> many others, not just those working there but also cyclists who do
business
> there.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> And the store management.

To which I add: Three cheers for the good managers of good bike shops. Of
which there are many.

03-03-2005, 06:18 AM

Leo Lichtman wrote:
> "Mike Jacoubowsky/Chain Reaction Bicycles" wrote: (clip) you've helped
> many others, not just those working there but also cyclists who do
business
> there.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> And the store management.

To which I add: Three cheers for the good managers of good bike shops. Of
which there are many.

03-03-2005, 07:39 AM

Thanks. I appreciate the comments. My old frame came with the Ultegra
shifters which was a huge step up for me from the friction shifters that
were on my old bike. I am still learning about the various components,
when it is advisable to change and when it is not.

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] wrote:
> catzz66 wrote:
>
>> Question for the rest of you: Would you upgrade your components
>>if you were Mary?
>
------
>
> I see no point in trading, say, a crankset for a similar shinier
> crankset. I see no point in taking off, say, Tiagra shifters to
> install Ultegra. And there's no practical benefit - and some safety
> detriment, I fear - to installing a lighter handlebar, or whatever.
> And I don't need to slice my existing gear range into tinier steps,
> thanks.
>
> I changed cranksets when I got one on a terrific sale that allowed me
> to replace my double with a triple, allowing a super low for touring.
> I switched from exposed cable brake levers to "aero" ones when I
> installed a clip-on aero handlebar. I traded long arm caliper brakes
> for cantis because the calipers had lousy mechanical advantage - i.e.
> the bike stopped poorly. IOW, I change components only to solve
> specific problems. (And to be honest, some of the replacements were
> "downgrades," if you go by catalog rankings.)
>
> If the existing bike is serving Mary well - and it certainly sounds
> like it is, based on her mileage - I think she needn't spend money to
> "upgrade." Better to save the money and use it for a nicer vacation.
> With the bike, of course!
>

03-03-2005, 07:39 AM

Thanks. I appreciate the comments. My old frame came with the Ultegra
shifters which was a huge step up for me from the friction shifters that
were on my old bike. I am still learning about the various components,
when it is advisable to change and when it is not.

[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] wrote:
> catzz66 wrote:
>
>> Question for the rest of you: Would you upgrade your components
>>if you were Mary?
>
------
>
> I see no point in trading, say, a crankset for a similar shinier
> crankset. I see no point in taking off, say, Tiagra shifters to
> install Ultegra. And there's no practical benefit - and some safety
> detriment, I fear - to installing a lighter handlebar, or whatever.
> And I don't need to slice my existing gear range into tinier steps,
> thanks.
>
> I changed cranksets when I got one on a terrific sale that allowed me
> to replace my double with a triple, allowing a super low for touring.
> I switched from exposed cable brake levers to "aero" ones when I
> installed a clip-on aero handlebar. I traded long arm caliper brakes
> for cantis because the calipers had lousy mechanical advantage - i.e.
> the bike stopped poorly. IOW, I change components only to solve
> specific problems. (And to be honest, some of the replacements were
> "downgrades," if you go by catalog rankings.)
>
> If the existing bike is serving Mary well - and it certainly sounds
> like it is, based on her mileage - I think she needn't spend money to
> "upgrade." Better to save the money and use it for a nicer vacation.
> With the bike, of course!
>

03-03-2005, 11:53 AM

RonSonic wrote:

>
> WHOA!
>
> We've got a bike with 27,000 miles on it and we don't know a damn
thing about
> its maintenance history. Do you really think that any bike with that
kind of
> mileage is going to get fixed in twenty freeking minutes? Especially
since the
> owner doesn't seem to have any perspective on replacing cogs or
chains.
>
> One of the shops in my area is advertising their overhaul which they
recommend
> for any bike over two years old at $192.

WHOA, yourself! That is a total ripoff. $192 for what? What's the point
in repacking bearings that don't need it? What does "2 years" mean? A
fixed price "tune-up" is a sure sign of a scam. More than likely most
bikes are going to get much more work than they need -- or at least
charged for it...

The truth is that some components are consumables, and that LBS parts
prices are about 3X what the equivalent is when bundled in a new bike.
Put in labor, and the "throw away threshold" gets closer to periodic
maintenance costs. At the same time, components are generally of a
higher quality and longer lasting. I can't think of how I could spend
$200 on a 2 year old bike, even a heavily ridden one.

Stuff should be replaced as it wears out, bearings only need repack if
contaminated. LBS should fix what's broken and just charge for that.