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Old 12-25-2006, 10:23 AM   #11 (permalink)
kenji
 
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Re: Pedal car (Dino, Berg,Kettler) questions.

In article <1167064765.318866.326880@79g2000cws.googlegroups. com>,
"David Martin" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].uk> wrote:

> kenji wrote:
>
> > SCROOGE!

>
> Nah, Scrooge was a kind and generous character who gave to the needy
> and was concerned with the welfare of the less off.
>
> At least in the latter part of his life.
>
> ..d


what's Alan then?
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Old 12-25-2006, 10:30 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Re: Pedal car (Dino, Berg,Kettler) questions.

in message <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].earthlink.net>, fluffy
bunny ('[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]') wrote:

> In article <PzSjh.36164$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].net>,
> "Alan Holmes" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
>> "what does THIS button do?" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
>> news:1167049807.639057.267510@79g2000cws.googlegro ups.com...
>> > Depending on where you are reading this, you may know that one of my
>> > coworkers developed bicycle towed snow plow which he uses to help
>> > keep a MUP open in our car-clogged suburb of Chicago.

>>
>> Has this idiot not noticed the letter 'uk' in the header, and if he has,
>> is he not aware that these letters indicate that this newsgroup is aimed
>> at the inhabitants of a small island just off the west coast of europe,
>> that is if he knows where europe is?

>
> This idiot did, in fact, notice that the only places in the english
> speaking world which carry the Dino Car are in England and Ireland.


Fear not. Alan is a well-known, errrm, character on certain newsgroups. An
insult from him may be seen either as a rite of passage or a compliment,
depending on your mood.

I have nothing helpful to add regarding pedal cars. The relatively wide
track and low ground clearance may make pedalling them in snow hard work -
you would have to clear a lot more snow to make a useable path for one of
those things.

There are a couple of British made utility four-wheelers, but both of them
are expensive and both suffer from the wide-track problem.
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Old 12-25-2006, 10:57 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Re: Pedal car (Dino, Berg,Kettler) questions.

Can you push/tow a snowblower?

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Old 12-25-2006, 11:07 AM   #14 (permalink)
kenji
 
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Re: Pedal car (Dino, Berg,Kettler) questions.

In article <1167073077.015942.314080@42g2000cwt.googlegroups. com>,
"Nexus7" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

> Can you push/tow a snowblower?


I think he wants to pretend he's a frontiersman.
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Old 12-25-2006, 11:10 AM   #15 (permalink)
kenji
 
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Re: Pedal car (Dino, Berg,Kettler) questions.

In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].uk>,
Simon Brooke <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].uk> wrote:

> in message <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].earthlink.net>, fluffy
> bunny ('[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]') wrote:
>
> > In article <PzSjh.36164$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].net>,
> > "Alan Holmes" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
> >
> >> "what does THIS button do?" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
> >> news:1167049807.639057.267510@79g2000cws.googlegro ups.com...
> >> > Depending on where you are reading this, you may know that one of my
> >> > coworkers developed bicycle towed snow plow which he uses to help
> >> > keep a MUP open in our car-clogged suburb of Chicago.
> >>
> >> Has this idiot not noticed the letter 'uk' in the header, and if he has,
> >> is he not aware that these letters indicate that this newsgroup is aimed
> >> at the inhabitants of a small island just off the west coast of europe,
> >> that is if he knows where europe is?

> >
> > This idiot did, in fact, notice that the only places in the english
> > speaking world which carry the Dino Car are in England and Ireland.

>
> Fear not. Alan is a well-known, errrm, character on certain newsgroups. An
> insult from him may be seen either as a rite of passage or a compliment,
> depending on your mood.
>
> I have nothing helpful to add regarding pedal cars. The relatively wide
> track and low ground clearance may make pedalling them in snow hard work -
> you would have to clear a lot more snow to make a useable path for one of
> those things.
>
> There are a couple of British made utility four-wheelers, but both of them
> are expensive and both suffer from the wide-track problem.
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]


who knew that our .max would create such intercourse with fellow
pedalers from across the big swamp?
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Old 12-25-2006, 11:15 AM   #16 (permalink)
nash
 
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Re: Pedal car (Dino, Berg,Kettler) questions.

That is cool for $300 Sticks.


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Old 12-25-2006, 11:23 AM   #17 (permalink)
Poul Erik Lindaa
 
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Re: Pedal car (Dino, Berg,Kettler) questions.

On 25 Dec 2006 04:30:07 -0800, "what does THIS button do?"
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>Depending on where you are reading this, you may know that one of my
>coworkers developed bicycle towed snow plow which he uses to help keep
>a MUP open in our car-clogged suburb of Chicago.
>(<http://www.google.com/search?q=bicycle+snow+plow> [first link] on the
>off chance this is news to anyone). No, the local governmental units
>won't remove the snow and yes we've tried to get them to move it. If
>we don't do it, it won't get done, period.
>
>The main drawback of the bikeplow system is that the bike needs to be
>in front of the plow, towing. Not pushing. In the snow. And the bike
>has to be above a certain critical speed for balancing yadda yadda
>yadda, the plow has trouble with heavy, wet, or icy underlayers. The
>plow is 10^6 better than nothing, but there is a bit of room for
>improvement.
>
>It would be better, for instance, if the motivator were on something
>more stable than two-wheels, and it might be good if the plow pushed
>the snow out of the way, before the wheels ...
>
>Tautological thoughts like this lead me to imagine a sort of
>pedal-powered bulldozer or tractor thing, which lead me eventually to
>discover these things called pedal cars
>
><http://www.autoculture.co.uk/Dino%202007.pdf>
><http://www.kettler.net/articles/20050216194000001126/index.html>
><http://www.bergtoys.com/skelters.php?categorie=10>
>
>They seem to be popular(?) in europe, but basically non-existant in the
>US. The Dino seems to be the bee's knees (very nice), with a 5-speed +
>reverse gear, 200+ kg payload .... very burly, and quite what i'd
>imagine i'd like to have to push a little V-plow along the trail.
>
>The only real problems i see are (a) i'd have to import most of them
>because of the limited availability in the states (Kettler seems sort
>of available, i.e. special order at Dick's Sports) and (b) they cost a
>lot of money -- 900 Pounds Sterling for the top of the line Dino car!
>
>so i'm seeking information and pointers. I'd like to know of club
>websites etc. for pedal-car entheusiasts, hear of people's
>experiences/opinions etc.


Look at this.
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Old 12-25-2006, 11:48 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Re: Pedal car (Dino, Berg,Kettler) questions.

In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>,
Poul Erik Lindaa <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].cykeldk> wrote:

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if it had a grader attachment it looks like that would work.

http://www.lcwhitford.com/JD570_grader_1.jpg
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Old 12-25-2006, 02:14 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Re: Pedal car (Dino, Berg,Kettler) questions.

Simon Brooke wrote:
>
>I have nothing helpful to add regarding pedal cars. The relatively wide
>track and low ground clearance may make pedalling them in snow hard work -
>you would have to clear a lot more snow to make a useable path for one of
>those things.


But if you do manage it, you've made a wider path for other users.

I'm trying to imaging using the wheel of a Wovel
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as a direct drive front wheel on a delta trike, but failing.

Back-to-back tandem trike with the front drive chain disconnected
from the wheels and driving a snow-blower?
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Old 12-25-2006, 02:39 PM   #20 (permalink)
Scott en Aztlán
 
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Re: Pedal car (Dino, Berg,Kettler) questions.

"what does THIS button do?" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> said in chi.general:

>The main drawback of the bikeplow system is that the bike needs to be
>in front of the plow, towing. Not pushing. In the snow. And the bike
>has to be above a certain critical speed for balancing yadda yadda
>yadda, the plow has trouble with heavy, wet, or icy underlayers. The
>plow is 10^6 better than nothing, but there is a bit of room for
>improvement.


Tow the plow with a snowmobile.
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