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06-02-2004, 08:30 AM

On Wed, 2 Jun 2004 07:41:01 -0400, David Kerber wrote:
> In article <40bd2612$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].edu>, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] says...
>> Chris wrote:
>>
>> > This sure does sound like a lot of people getting whacked by cars. Let's
>> > here the others. Bring your tales.
>>
>> Let's also hear the "NOT getting whacked by cars" tales. There are two
>> sides to the story, no?
>>
>> Do I need to go first? ;-)
>
> No!!!!! <GRIN>. Remember that it's the unusual stuff which makes the
> news(group). Nobody posts when they rode 30 or 50 or 200 miles and
> didn't get hit by a car. All he needs to do is go back to the recent
> helmet thread for examples of how long some of us have been riding
> withOUT a mishap.

Hey how about a cyclist hitting a car (and not the car's fault!)? Yes
I plead guilty, yes shame on me and I was luck with the outcome!

I was riding really fast (and some of you know how that feels) and I
was doing a bit of tail gating (major drafting!). I came around a
corner to a light and the car in front of me hit the brakes a little
harder than I expected. So I managed to slow down to about 10 mph
before I hit the bumper. I appologized to the driver but she hadn't
notice the bump. I have been more careful not to tail gate since (6
years ago). I have bumped into other vehicles but those have been ones
that have put me into a bad situation. And yes I tend to be very
aggressive in traffic (but I don't beleive I can push around any motor
vehicles).

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06-02-2004, 09:10 AM

On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 01:19:11 +0000, Alfred Ryder wrote:

> The clear
> conclusion is that bicycling is safer than any other mode of transportation.

Not very clear at all. This has been argued to death in this
newsgroup--but if you ride in the city, you're gonna get hit more. Period.
On average---there's always folks with either good luck, or eyes in
the back of their head. It's like putting another bullet in the revolver
when playing russian roullette. More cars, more chances of an accident.

I've ridden where the poster got whacked, at that hour you've got a lotta
sleepy folks coming of the freeway into the city that aren't the best
drivers. Could be they're mesmerised by the thought of the shiny ducks
hanging in those Chinatown shop windows. Who knows.

On the south side, I've always had the hardest time in Pilsen, where the
drivers a a bit too mucho macho for my tastes.

06-02-2004, 09:10 AM

On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 01:19:11 +0000, Alfred Ryder wrote:

> The clear
> conclusion is that bicycling is safer than any other mode of transportation.

Not very clear at all. This has been argued to death in this
newsgroup--but if you ride in the city, you're gonna get hit more. Period.
On average---there's always folks with either good luck, or eyes in
the back of their head. It's like putting another bullet in the revolver
when playing russian roullette. More cars, more chances of an accident.

I've ridden where the poster got whacked, at that hour you've got a lotta
sleepy folks coming of the freeway into the city that aren't the best
drivers. Could be they're mesmerised by the thought of the shiny ducks
hanging in those Chinatown shop windows. Who knows.

On the south side, I've always had the hardest time in Pilsen, where the
drivers a a bit too mucho macho for my tastes.

06-02-2004, 09:10 AM

On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 01:19:11 +0000, Alfred Ryder wrote:

> The clear
> conclusion is that bicycling is safer than any other mode of transportation.

Not very clear at all. This has been argued to death in this
newsgroup--but if you ride in the city, you're gonna get hit more. Period.
On average---there's always folks with either good luck, or eyes in
the back of their head. It's like putting another bullet in the revolver
when playing russian roullette. More cars, more chances of an accident.

I've ridden where the poster got whacked, at that hour you've got a lotta
sleepy folks coming of the freeway into the city that aren't the best
drivers. Could be they're mesmerised by the thought of the shiny ducks
hanging in those Chinatown shop windows. Who knows.

On the south side, I've always had the hardest time in Pilsen, where the
drivers a a bit too mucho macho for my tastes.

06-02-2004, 09:10 AM

On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 01:19:11 +0000, Alfred Ryder wrote:

> The clear
> conclusion is that bicycling is safer than any other mode of transportation.

Not very clear at all. This has been argued to death in this
newsgroup--but if you ride in the city, you're gonna get hit more. Period.
On average---there's always folks with either good luck, or eyes in
the back of their head. It's like putting another bullet in the revolver
when playing russian roullette. More cars, more chances of an accident.

I've ridden where the poster got whacked, at that hour you've got a lotta
sleepy folks coming of the freeway into the city that aren't the best
drivers. Could be they're mesmerised by the thought of the shiny ducks
hanging in those Chinatown shop windows. Who knows.

On the south side, I've always had the hardest time in Pilsen, where the
drivers a a bit too mucho macho for my tastes.

06-02-2004, 09:10 AM

On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 01:19:11 +0000, Alfred Ryder wrote:

> The clear
> conclusion is that bicycling is safer than any other mode of transportation.

Not very clear at all. This has been argued to death in this
newsgroup--but if you ride in the city, you're gonna get hit more. Period.
On average---there's always folks with either good luck, or eyes in
the back of their head. It's like putting another bullet in the revolver
when playing russian roullette. More cars, more chances of an accident.

I've ridden where the poster got whacked, at that hour you've got a lotta
sleepy folks coming of the freeway into the city that aren't the best
drivers. Could be they're mesmerised by the thought of the shiny ducks
hanging in those Chinatown shop windows. Who knows.

On the south side, I've always had the hardest time in Pilsen, where the
drivers a a bit too mucho macho for my tastes.

06-02-2004, 10:18 AM

"Frank Krygowski" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:40bd2612$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].edu...
> Chris wrote:
>
> > This sure does sound like a lot of people getting whacked by cars.
Let's
> > here the others. Bring your tales.
>
> Let's also hear the "NOT getting whacked by cars" tales. There are two
> sides to the story, no?
>
> Do I need to go first? ;-)
>
> --
maybe this qualifies. Last year,I was At an intersection, I was about to
turn left onto the east-west bike path, and all of a sudden this car is
barreling toward me, going south I realized that he was going so fast that I
wouldn't have time to start up and get out of the way. I thought, "this
time, I'm going to get creamed, I'm going to go right up on the hood and
through the windshield." I say 'this time' because a year before I'd been
hit by a car,also at an intersection, but it was going very slowly, just
starting up, so I wasn't badly hurt. However, this time i'd be creamed. But
the guy screeched to a halt and his front fender just touched my front
wheel, boomp! The guy had great brakes and great reflexes. He also, unlike
other guy, actually got out of his car and asked if I was okay. I was, and
the wheel was fine, not even a wobble,but I was pretty wobbly all the way
home. Really,though, at that particular intersection, he shouldn't have been
going so fast, since it crosses a bike path. I kept thinking if he'd been
some really old guy with **** reflexes, I'd have ended up in the hospital or
worse.

06-02-2004, 10:18 AM

"Frank Krygowski" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:40bd2612$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].edu...
> Chris wrote:
>
> > This sure does sound like a lot of people getting whacked by cars.
Let's
> > here the others. Bring your tales.
>
> Let's also hear the "NOT getting whacked by cars" tales. There are two
> sides to the story, no?
>
> Do I need to go first? ;-)
>
> --
maybe this qualifies. Last year,I was At an intersection, I was about to
turn left onto the east-west bike path, and all of a sudden this car is
barreling toward me, going south I realized that he was going so fast that I
wouldn't have time to start up and get out of the way. I thought, "this
time, I'm going to get creamed, I'm going to go right up on the hood and
through the windshield." I say 'this time' because a year before I'd been
hit by a car,also at an intersection, but it was going very slowly, just
starting up, so I wasn't badly hurt. However, this time i'd be creamed. But
the guy screeched to a halt and his front fender just touched my front
wheel, boomp! The guy had great brakes and great reflexes. He also, unlike
other guy, actually got out of his car and asked if I was okay. I was, and
the wheel was fine, not even a wobble,but I was pretty wobbly all the way
home. Really,though, at that particular intersection, he shouldn't have been
going so fast, since it crosses a bike path. I kept thinking if he'd been
some really old guy with **** reflexes, I'd have ended up in the hospital or
worse.

06-02-2004, 10:18 AM

"Frank Krygowski" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:40bd2612$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].edu...
> Chris wrote:
>
> > This sure does sound like a lot of people getting whacked by cars.
Let's
> > here the others. Bring your tales.
>
> Let's also hear the "NOT getting whacked by cars" tales. There are two
> sides to the story, no?
>
> Do I need to go first? ;-)
>
> --
maybe this qualifies. Last year,I was At an intersection, I was about to
turn left onto the east-west bike path, and all of a sudden this car is
barreling toward me, going south I realized that he was going so fast that I
wouldn't have time to start up and get out of the way. I thought, "this
time, I'm going to get creamed, I'm going to go right up on the hood and
through the windshield." I say 'this time' because a year before I'd been
hit by a car,also at an intersection, but it was going very slowly, just
starting up, so I wasn't badly hurt. However, this time i'd be creamed. But
the guy screeched to a halt and his front fender just touched my front
wheel, boomp! The guy had great brakes and great reflexes. He also, unlike
other guy, actually got out of his car and asked if I was okay. I was, and
the wheel was fine, not even a wobble,but I was pretty wobbly all the way
home. Really,though, at that particular intersection, he shouldn't have been
going so fast, since it crosses a bike path. I kept thinking if he'd been
some really old guy with **** reflexes, I'd have ended up in the hospital or
worse.

06-02-2004, 10:18 AM

"Frank Krygowski" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:40bd2612$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].edu...
> Chris wrote:
>
> > This sure does sound like a lot of people getting whacked by cars.
Let's
> > here the others. Bring your tales.
>
> Let's also hear the "NOT getting whacked by cars" tales. There are two
> sides to the story, no?
>
> Do I need to go first? ;-)
>
> --
maybe this qualifies. Last year,I was At an intersection, I was about to
turn left onto the east-west bike path, and all of a sudden this car is
barreling toward me, going south I realized that he was going so fast that I
wouldn't have time to start up and get out of the way. I thought, "this
time, I'm going to get creamed, I'm going to go right up on the hood and
through the windshield." I say 'this time' because a year before I'd been
hit by a car,also at an intersection, but it was going very slowly, just
starting up, so I wasn't badly hurt. However, this time i'd be creamed. But
the guy screeched to a halt and his front fender just touched my front
wheel, boomp! The guy had great brakes and great reflexes. He also, unlike
other guy, actually got out of his car and asked if I was okay. I was, and
the wheel was fine, not even a wobble,but I was pretty wobbly all the way
home. Really,though, at that particular intersection, he shouldn't have been
going so fast, since it crosses a bike path. I kept thinking if he'd been
some really old guy with **** reflexes, I'd have ended up in the hospital or
worse.