Hit and Run - Page 48 - Cycling Mob: Road Cycling, Mountain Biking and More

06-06-2004, 02:38 AM

Sat, 05 Jun 2004 11:06:42 -0400, <40c1df90$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].edu>,
Frank Krygowski <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>How would you have the button in reach of a cyclist, without having it
>be a collision hazard?
>
>What if a cyclist intended to make a left turn? Would he push the
>button on the right side of the road, then drag the bike over toward the
>left?

Yes, or ignore the button altogether and trust the buried sensors to
pick up the bike.

Unfortunately, they're most often stuck on a post at the curb. Some
are on small diverter islands in the center of a traffic calmed
street.

Many streets, especially around schools, that aren't yet specifically
designated cycling routes are getting them too.

I've not yet noticed any intersections with punch buttons accessible
from both the left and right sides of the lane.

There's only certain times of day at some intersections that I even
bother to use them. I figure if I punch the button then I'd better
wait for the light but there's often breaks in cross traffic sooner
than the light cycle stops it. That and the sequence is usually far
longer than it takes a bicycle to clear the intersection. Sure,
they're handy sometimes but mostly I don't need them.
--
zk

06-06-2004, 02:38 AM

Sat, 05 Jun 2004 20:52:07 -0700, <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>,
Ben Pfaff <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>What does it matter? A driver who can't tell whether cross
>traffic has to stop should not be driving.

There's a glut of scud jockeys who can't even park let alone drive.
--
zk

06-06-2004, 02:38 AM

Sat, 05 Jun 2004 20:52:07 -0700, <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>,
Ben Pfaff <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>What does it matter? A driver who can't tell whether cross
>traffic has to stop should not be driving.

There's a glut of scud jockeys who can't even park let alone drive.
--
zk

06-06-2004, 02:38 AM

Sat, 05 Jun 2004 20:52:07 -0700, <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>,
Ben Pfaff <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>What does it matter? A driver who can't tell whether cross
>traffic has to stop should not be driving.

There's a glut of scud jockeys who can't even park let alone drive.
--
zk

06-06-2004, 02:38 AM

Sat, 05 Jun 2004 20:52:07 -0700, <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>,
Ben Pfaff <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>What does it matter? A driver who can't tell whether cross
>traffic has to stop should not be driving.

There's a glut of scud jockeys who can't even park let alone drive.
--
zk

06-06-2004, 02:38 AM

Sat, 05 Jun 2004 20:52:07 -0700, <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>,
Ben Pfaff <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

>What does it matter? A driver who can't tell whether cross
>traffic has to stop should not be driving.

There's a glut of scud jockeys who can't even park let alone drive.
--
zk

06-06-2004, 07:44 AM

"Frank Krygowski" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].edu...
> Bill wrote:
>
> > Does anybody just get off the bike and walk across the busy
> > intersections?
>
> Well, I can't remember ever doing that. Seems slow, inconvenient, and
> possibly more dangerous.

I can remember doing that. When I was a kid I used to do it all the time.
Maybe I had worse traffic to deal with when I was growing up. I remember the
first time I took the lane for a left turn at a light. Man, did I feel like
I was something else.

I also go into ped mode in areas with heavy ped and car traffic. Getting out
of a baseball game is an excellent example. I'm much better off walking the
bike with the millions of other people on foot, than to be in the clumsier
position of being a vehicle.

--
Warm Regards,

Claire Petersky
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06-06-2004, 07:44 AM

"Frank Krygowski" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].edu...
> Bill wrote:
>
> > Does anybody just get off the bike and walk across the busy
> > intersections?
>
> Well, I can't remember ever doing that. Seems slow, inconvenient, and
> possibly more dangerous.

I can remember doing that. When I was a kid I used to do it all the time.
Maybe I had worse traffic to deal with when I was growing up. I remember the
first time I took the lane for a left turn at a light. Man, did I feel like
I was something else.

I also go into ped mode in areas with heavy ped and car traffic. Getting out
of a baseball game is an excellent example. I'm much better off walking the
bike with the millions of other people on foot, than to be in the clumsier
position of being a vehicle.

--
Warm Regards,

Claire Petersky
Please replace earthlink for mouse-potato and .net for .com
Home of the meditative cyclist:
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
See the books I've set free at: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

06-06-2004, 07:44 AM

"Frank Krygowski" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].edu...
> Bill wrote:
>
> > Does anybody just get off the bike and walk across the busy
> > intersections?
>
> Well, I can't remember ever doing that. Seems slow, inconvenient, and
> possibly more dangerous.

I can remember doing that. When I was a kid I used to do it all the time.
Maybe I had worse traffic to deal with when I was growing up. I remember the
first time I took the lane for a left turn at a light. Man, did I feel like
I was something else.

I also go into ped mode in areas with heavy ped and car traffic. Getting out
of a baseball game is an excellent example. I'm much better off walking the
bike with the millions of other people on foot, than to be in the clumsier
position of being a vehicle.

--
Warm Regards,

Claire Petersky
Please replace earthlink for mouse-potato and .net for .com
Home of the meditative cyclist:
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
See the books I've set free at: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

06-06-2004, 07:44 AM

"Frank Krygowski" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].edu...
> Bill wrote:
>
> > Does anybody just get off the bike and walk across the busy
> > intersections?
>
> Well, I can't remember ever doing that. Seems slow, inconvenient, and
> possibly more dangerous.

I can remember doing that. When I was a kid I used to do it all the time.
Maybe I had worse traffic to deal with when I was growing up. I remember the
first time I took the lane for a left turn at a light. Man, did I feel like
I was something else.

I also go into ped mode in areas with heavy ped and car traffic. Getting out
of a baseball game is an excellent example. I'm much better off walking the
bike with the millions of other people on foot, than to be in the clumsier
position of being a vehicle.

--
Warm Regards,

Claire Petersky
Please replace earthlink for mouse-potato and .net for .com
Home of the meditative cyclist:
[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
See the books I've set free at: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]