How to cycle for weight loss - Page 13 - Cycling Mob: Road Cycling, Mountain Biking and More

06-06-2004, 05:22 PM

Well technically carbs are the lowers calories per gram you know. 4
calories per gram compared to fat that is 9 calories per gram.
Problem is that pasta contains lots of carbs

My usual serving is about
600 calories just for the pasta, and about 400 more for sauce.
I think you are right that I should eat less of it. Chicken and tuna are
the way to go. I will see if I can convince my will

"curt" <nospam@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:nLuwc.9373$QT3.7995@nwrdny01.gnilink.net...
> Bicycling is a great way to lose weight! I think most important is to
ride
> long and steady to lose. I don't use a HR monitor, so I can't help you
> there, but there is an effective HR for weight loss, but it is different
for
> everyone and we would need to know more information about you.
>
> If you like pasta, it will be harder to lose, unless you don't eat that
> much. Sorry, that is just the way it is. A high carb diet makes it
harder
> to lose, it is just the facts. It can certainly be done and is done all
the
> time, but you need to cut calories, unless you are going to ride very long
> distances 4+ days a week. I suggest lower fat if you are going high carb.
> If you want to lose faster, then bag the pasta and eat chicken, fish, etc.
>
> JMHO,
> Curt
>
>
> "Daniel Crispin" <calendyr@videotron.ca> wrote in message
> news:rapwc.210963$YP4.1634569@wagner.videotron.net ...
> > Hello,
> >
> > I am wondering if there is an easy way to dose my efforts toward weight
> > loss. I could buy
> > a HRM but I have already spent 600$ on my bike this month and would like
> to
> > stop spending
> > for a while.
> >
> > Any trick that can tell me I am using the right effort for weight loss?
> > Someone told me that if I cannot
> > speak without feeling a little out of breath that is the right zone...
is
> > that true?
> >
> > Also I am been trying to pedal faster. I used to pedal slow and hard
but
> > after reading some books
> > I now understand it's a really bad way to do it. I have no idea what my
> > current cadence is since my
> > computer doesn't have that feature but I think I am at around 1.25 turn
> per
> > second... that is of course
> > an approximate... it would mean 75 turns per minute which is close to
what
> > is recommanded... I cannot
> > see myself pedaling faster, already feels like I am spinning way too
fast
>

> > How do you guys do 100 turns
> > per minute? Must be a mental issue, the legs don't seems to mind but
geez
> > at a 100 I am not sure I could
> > even keep my balance hehehe!
> >
> > Last thing... what should I eat before and during training? I love
pasta.
> > I know they contain a lot of calories
> > but that is the food I like. On the other hand they give lots of carbs
so
> > that can't be bad while training right?
> > Should I eat something different the days I train?
> >
> > How about during training? I normal bring a Nutribar which is an meal
> > replacement designed for weight loss.
> > I has a balance of carbs, fats and proteins. Should I use something
with
> > more carbs?
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

06-06-2004, 05:25 PM

I have purchased those in the past... why would they be better for weight
loss? They are most
likelly better for your health but I doubt they contain less calories.

"Mike Schwab" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> Look for breads and pastas made with whole grain. Check health food
> stores.
>
> curt wrote:
> >
> > Bicycling is a great way to lose weight! I think most important is to
ride
> > long and steady to lose. I don't use a HR monitor, so I can't help you
> > there, but there is an effective HR for weight loss, but it is different
for
> > everyone and we would need to know more information about you.
> >
> > If you like pasta, it will be harder to lose, unless you don't eat that
> > much. Sorry, that is just the way it is. A high carb diet makes it
harder
> > to lose, it is just the facts. It can certainly be done and is done all
the
> > time, but you need to cut calories, unless you are going to ride very
long
> > distances 4+ days a week. I suggest lower fat if you are going high
carb.
> > If you want to lose faster, then bag the pasta and eat chicken, fish,
etc.
> >
> > JMHO,
> > Curt
> <snip>

06-06-2004, 05:25 PM

I have purchased those in the past... why would they be better for weight
loss? They are most
likelly better for your health but I doubt they contain less calories.

"Mike Schwab" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> Look for breads and pastas made with whole grain. Check health food
> stores.
>
> curt wrote:
> >
> > Bicycling is a great way to lose weight! I think most important is to
ride
> > long and steady to lose. I don't use a HR monitor, so I can't help you
> > there, but there is an effective HR for weight loss, but it is different
for
> > everyone and we would need to know more information about you.
> >
> > If you like pasta, it will be harder to lose, unless you don't eat that
> > much. Sorry, that is just the way it is. A high carb diet makes it
harder
> > to lose, it is just the facts. It can certainly be done and is done all
the
> > time, but you need to cut calories, unless you are going to ride very
long
> > distances 4+ days a week. I suggest lower fat if you are going high
carb.
> > If you want to lose faster, then bag the pasta and eat chicken, fish,
etc.
> >
> > JMHO,
> > Curt
> <snip>

06-06-2004, 05:25 PM

I have purchased those in the past... why would they be better for weight
loss? They are most
likelly better for your health but I doubt they contain less calories.

"Mike Schwab" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> Look for breads and pastas made with whole grain. Check health food
> stores.
>
> curt wrote:
> >
> > Bicycling is a great way to lose weight! I think most important is to
ride
> > long and steady to lose. I don't use a HR monitor, so I can't help you
> > there, but there is an effective HR for weight loss, but it is different
for
> > everyone and we would need to know more information about you.
> >
> > If you like pasta, it will be harder to lose, unless you don't eat that
> > much. Sorry, that is just the way it is. A high carb diet makes it
harder
> > to lose, it is just the facts. It can certainly be done and is done all
the
> > time, but you need to cut calories, unless you are going to ride very
long
> > distances 4+ days a week. I suggest lower fat if you are going high
carb.
> > If you want to lose faster, then bag the pasta and eat chicken, fish,
etc.
> >
> > JMHO,
> > Curt
> <snip>

06-06-2004, 05:25 PM

I have purchased those in the past... why would they be better for weight
loss? They are most
likelly better for your health but I doubt they contain less calories.

"Mike Schwab" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> Look for breads and pastas made with whole grain. Check health food
> stores.
>
> curt wrote:
> >
> > Bicycling is a great way to lose weight! I think most important is to
ride
> > long and steady to lose. I don't use a HR monitor, so I can't help you
> > there, but there is an effective HR for weight loss, but it is different
for
> > everyone and we would need to know more information about you.
> >
> > If you like pasta, it will be harder to lose, unless you don't eat that
> > much. Sorry, that is just the way it is. A high carb diet makes it
harder
> > to lose, it is just the facts. It can certainly be done and is done all
the
> > time, but you need to cut calories, unless you are going to ride very
long
> > distances 4+ days a week. I suggest lower fat if you are going high
carb.
> > If you want to lose faster, then bag the pasta and eat chicken, fish,
etc.
> >
> > JMHO,
> > Curt
> <snip>

06-06-2004, 05:25 PM

I have purchased those in the past... why would they be better for weight
loss? They are most
likelly better for your health but I doubt they contain less calories.

"Mike Schwab" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> Look for breads and pastas made with whole grain. Check health food
> stores.
>
> curt wrote:
> >
> > Bicycling is a great way to lose weight! I think most important is to
ride
> > long and steady to lose. I don't use a HR monitor, so I can't help you
> > there, but there is an effective HR for weight loss, but it is different
for
> > everyone and we would need to know more information about you.
> >
> > If you like pasta, it will be harder to lose, unless you don't eat that
> > much. Sorry, that is just the way it is. A high carb diet makes it
harder
> > to lose, it is just the facts. It can certainly be done and is done all
the
> > time, but you need to cut calories, unless you are going to ride very
long
> > distances 4+ days a week. I suggest lower fat if you are going high
carb.
> > If you want to lose faster, then bag the pasta and eat chicken, fish,
etc.
> >
> > JMHO,
> > Curt
> <snip>

06-06-2004, 05:36 PM

Thanks Arthur,

> If you're looking to lose a lot of weight in a short period of time, the
> latest diet fad may be more effective than cycling. But if you're willing
to
> work at it, lose weight gradually, and keep it off (while improving your
> overall fitness and energy level) cycling may be the ticket.

Diets don't work. Starving yourself lower your BMR and when you go back
to a normal diet you explode. You also loose a lot of muscle mass while on
a diet so it compounds to problem. I have never been a dieter and don't
plan
on being one.

> There's no magic formula, except that you must burn more calories than you
> consume. Daily rides of 10-15 miles are good, but long weekend rides are
> where you will really burn calories. Speed isn't the main thing. Yes, a
> faster pace will burn more calories per hour, but riding the same distance
> at a moderate pace (longer time in the saddle) is almost as good. Don't
kill
> yourself, but don't loaf either.

Right, I was just trying to figure out an easy way to know just that, what
is a medium pace

hehehe if I am not out of breath it seems to me I am
doing an easy ride with little effort. How do I know I am in the right
zone?

> Make cycling a life-long habit, not just something you're going to do for
a
> few months until you reach your target weight. The best way to do that is
> make it fun, not something you have to endure. It may help to join a club
or
> ride informally with a few other people, especially on long rides.

I ride with friends mostly... not sure if that is good or bad. In a way
it's good because
being a social thing it encourages me to do it. On the other hand I can't
ride at limit
of my endurance if I want to ride with friends who may not be in as good a
shape or
are not interested in riding hard. I think I will have to do both. Long
rides with friends
and shorter heavier training alone.

> That sounds like anaerobic threshold training, and is an effective way to
> achieve fitness. But for weight loss it's all about miles.

Oh so that would be too high a level for long distance?

> Definitely don't starve yourself while you're riding, but keep the calorie
> equation in mind (before, during, and after the ride). Normal food is just
> as good (or better) than energy bars. Energy bars can be more convenient.
> See what works best for you.

Ya. Energy bars are convenient because they don't take much room. I can
put them in the small bag on
my steering bar. Someone suggested bananas. That takes more room but not
that much. I will probably try
that next time I ride. Fig bars sounds delicious too if I can find any.

06-06-2004, 05:36 PM

Thanks Arthur,

> If you're looking to lose a lot of weight in a short period of time, the
> latest diet fad may be more effective than cycling. But if you're willing
to
> work at it, lose weight gradually, and keep it off (while improving your
> overall fitness and energy level) cycling may be the ticket.

Diets don't work. Starving yourself lower your BMR and when you go back
to a normal diet you explode. You also loose a lot of muscle mass while on
a diet so it compounds to problem. I have never been a dieter and don't
plan
on being one.

> There's no magic formula, except that you must burn more calories than you
> consume. Daily rides of 10-15 miles are good, but long weekend rides are
> where you will really burn calories. Speed isn't the main thing. Yes, a
> faster pace will burn more calories per hour, but riding the same distance
> at a moderate pace (longer time in the saddle) is almost as good. Don't
kill
> yourself, but don't loaf either.

Right, I was just trying to figure out an easy way to know just that, what
is a medium pace

hehehe if I am not out of breath it seems to me I am
doing an easy ride with little effort. How do I know I am in the right
zone?

> Make cycling a life-long habit, not just something you're going to do for
a
> few months until you reach your target weight. The best way to do that is
> make it fun, not something you have to endure. It may help to join a club
or
> ride informally with a few other people, especially on long rides.

I ride with friends mostly... not sure if that is good or bad. In a way
it's good because
being a social thing it encourages me to do it. On the other hand I can't
ride at limit
of my endurance if I want to ride with friends who may not be in as good a
shape or
are not interested in riding hard. I think I will have to do both. Long
rides with friends
and shorter heavier training alone.

> That sounds like anaerobic threshold training, and is an effective way to
> achieve fitness. But for weight loss it's all about miles.

Oh so that would be too high a level for long distance?

> Definitely don't starve yourself while you're riding, but keep the calorie
> equation in mind (before, during, and after the ride). Normal food is just
> as good (or better) than energy bars. Energy bars can be more convenient.
> See what works best for you.

Ya. Energy bars are convenient because they don't take much room. I can
put them in the small bag on
my steering bar. Someone suggested bananas. That takes more room but not
that much. I will probably try
that next time I ride. Fig bars sounds delicious too if I can find any.

06-06-2004, 05:36 PM

Thanks Arthur,

> If you're looking to lose a lot of weight in a short period of time, the
> latest diet fad may be more effective than cycling. But if you're willing
to
> work at it, lose weight gradually, and keep it off (while improving your
> overall fitness and energy level) cycling may be the ticket.

Diets don't work. Starving yourself lower your BMR and when you go back
to a normal diet you explode. You also loose a lot of muscle mass while on
a diet so it compounds to problem. I have never been a dieter and don't
plan
on being one.

> There's no magic formula, except that you must burn more calories than you
> consume. Daily rides of 10-15 miles are good, but long weekend rides are
> where you will really burn calories. Speed isn't the main thing. Yes, a
> faster pace will burn more calories per hour, but riding the same distance
> at a moderate pace (longer time in the saddle) is almost as good. Don't
kill
> yourself, but don't loaf either.

Right, I was just trying to figure out an easy way to know just that, what
is a medium pace

hehehe if I am not out of breath it seems to me I am
doing an easy ride with little effort. How do I know I am in the right
zone?

> Make cycling a life-long habit, not just something you're going to do for
a
> few months until you reach your target weight. The best way to do that is
> make it fun, not something you have to endure. It may help to join a club
or
> ride informally with a few other people, especially on long rides.

I ride with friends mostly... not sure if that is good or bad. In a way
it's good because
being a social thing it encourages me to do it. On the other hand I can't
ride at limit
of my endurance if I want to ride with friends who may not be in as good a
shape or
are not interested in riding hard. I think I will have to do both. Long
rides with friends
and shorter heavier training alone.

> That sounds like anaerobic threshold training, and is an effective way to
> achieve fitness. But for weight loss it's all about miles.

Oh so that would be too high a level for long distance?

> Definitely don't starve yourself while you're riding, but keep the calorie
> equation in mind (before, during, and after the ride). Normal food is just
> as good (or better) than energy bars. Energy bars can be more convenient.
> See what works best for you.

Ya. Energy bars are convenient because they don't take much room. I can
put them in the small bag on
my steering bar. Someone suggested bananas. That takes more room but not
that much. I will probably try
that next time I ride. Fig bars sounds delicious too if I can find any.

06-06-2004, 05:36 PM

Thanks Arthur,

> If you're looking to lose a lot of weight in a short period of time, the
> latest diet fad may be more effective than cycling. But if you're willing
to
> work at it, lose weight gradually, and keep it off (while improving your
> overall fitness and energy level) cycling may be the ticket.

Diets don't work. Starving yourself lower your BMR and when you go back
to a normal diet you explode. You also loose a lot of muscle mass while on
a diet so it compounds to problem. I have never been a dieter and don't
plan
on being one.

> There's no magic formula, except that you must burn more calories than you
> consume. Daily rides of 10-15 miles are good, but long weekend rides are
> where you will really burn calories. Speed isn't the main thing. Yes, a
> faster pace will burn more calories per hour, but riding the same distance
> at a moderate pace (longer time in the saddle) is almost as good. Don't
kill
> yourself, but don't loaf either.

Right, I was just trying to figure out an easy way to know just that, what
is a medium pace

hehehe if I am not out of breath it seems to me I am
doing an easy ride with little effort. How do I know I am in the right
zone?

> Make cycling a life-long habit, not just something you're going to do for
a
> few months until you reach your target weight. The best way to do that is
> make it fun, not something you have to endure. It may help to join a club
or
> ride informally with a few other people, especially on long rides.

I ride with friends mostly... not sure if that is good or bad. In a way
it's good because
being a social thing it encourages me to do it. On the other hand I can't
ride at limit
of my endurance if I want to ride with friends who may not be in as good a
shape or
are not interested in riding hard. I think I will have to do both. Long
rides with friends
and shorter heavier training alone.

> That sounds like anaerobic threshold training, and is an effective way to
> achieve fitness. But for weight loss it's all about miles.

Oh so that would be too high a level for long distance?

> Definitely don't starve yourself while you're riding, but keep the calorie
> equation in mind (before, during, and after the ride). Normal food is just
> as good (or better) than energy bars. Energy bars can be more convenient.
> See what works best for you.

Ya. Energy bars are convenient because they don't take much room. I can
put them in the small bag on
my steering bar. Someone suggested bananas. That takes more room but not
that much. I will probably try
that next time I ride. Fig bars sounds delicious too if I can find any.