What did I do wrong? re: nutrition? - Page 13 - Cycling Mob: Road Cycling, Mountain Biking and More

06-07-2004, 04:20 PM

> > I don't usually get dizzy after a ride but I can tell you that I
> > sometimes get dizzy after running. Sometimes it is after a long run or
> > a short run, I can't predict when I'll get this way. A few times it
> > was obviously because I hadn't eaten properly before running. I
> > attribute my dizziness to low blood pressure. I usually do the put the
> > feet above my head if I feel it is necessary. And whatever dizziness
> > passes.

> You're describing post-exercise hypotension, a well known (but not
> well studied) symptom. When you stop exercising, the heart rate
> quickly slows down. This reduces the blood flow, and the blood
> pressure drops. Putting your head between your knees should prevent
> fainting.

This has happened to me once--months before I started the low carb diet. I
had finished strong after a 100K ride and came to a sudden stop at the
finish line. I immediately got off the bike and put it on the car's rack.
Standing there, talking to a guy, I became dizzy and had to sit down on the
curb.

Pat in TX

06-09-2004, 07:58 PM

Badger_South <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 10:32:50 -0400, David Kerber <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
> wrote:
>
> >>
> >> Lost 2 lbs, and kept 'em off through this pm.
> >
> >That would likely be maybe .25 lbs of fat, and 1.75 lbs of water.
>
> No argument there. However, after an evening of modest rehydration, I'm
> still down 2lbs. Prob. daily flux, though. Still I'll take it any way I get
> it. ;-p

Man, you'd best take care dieting that way. My mom, brother, and
sister all lost tons of weight on the Atkins diet-- over 200 lbs.
among them by my reckoning. When they stopped observing the regimen,
it all (plus more) came back so fast you'd scarcely believe it. Now
they eat less than ever and they're fatter than ever.

Like any reduction diet, low-carb trains your body. If you want to
get stronger, you train your body by lifting weights. If you want
greater endurance, you train by doing long-duration athletic activity.
And if you want to train your body to be as fat as possible on the
least possible amount of food, you reduce your food intake.

With low-carb dieting, you train your body to run off of fat. Succeed
in this, and you'll have a body that stores every extra molecule of
starch it can get as fat. It's a bum deal, and it only works for as
long as you're willing to observe the bizarre and ultimately
unsatisfactory dietary guidelines. Let the regimen slip, and like
magic you're fatter than you were when you started-- and with a
tuned-up, hyper-efficient metabolism that makes it easier than ever to
gain more weight.

Dieting works to take weight off. Exercise works to take weight off.
Both of them really only work for as long as you keep up the effort.
But which would you rather live with for the rest of your life-- an
exercise habit, or some weird diet that prevents you from enjoying the
quantity and variety of good eating that most people have available to
them?

Twice in my life I have lost big chunks of weight over short periods
of time-- in my case, not through any intentional dieting but simply
because of situational changes of habits. Yet after both those
episodes, I ended up predisposed to more weight gain because I'd
lowered my baseline metabolic rate. I now weigh close to 400 lbs and
never eat as much as 3000 calories in a day (most days, more like
2000). I don't think I'd be in this situation if I hadn't lost so
much weight so quickly.

Chalo Colina

06-09-2004, 07:58 PM

Badger_South <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 10:32:50 -0400, David Kerber <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
> wrote:
>
> >>
> >> Lost 2 lbs, and kept 'em off through this pm.
> >
> >That would likely be maybe .25 lbs of fat, and 1.75 lbs of water.
>
> No argument there. However, after an evening of modest rehydration, I'm
> still down 2lbs. Prob. daily flux, though. Still I'll take it any way I get
> it. ;-p

Man, you'd best take care dieting that way. My mom, brother, and
sister all lost tons of weight on the Atkins diet-- over 200 lbs.
among them by my reckoning. When they stopped observing the regimen,
it all (plus more) came back so fast you'd scarcely believe it. Now
they eat less than ever and they're fatter than ever.

Like any reduction diet, low-carb trains your body. If you want to
get stronger, you train your body by lifting weights. If you want
greater endurance, you train by doing long-duration athletic activity.
And if you want to train your body to be as fat as possible on the
least possible amount of food, you reduce your food intake.

With low-carb dieting, you train your body to run off of fat. Succeed
in this, and you'll have a body that stores every extra molecule of
starch it can get as fat. It's a bum deal, and it only works for as
long as you're willing to observe the bizarre and ultimately
unsatisfactory dietary guidelines. Let the regimen slip, and like
magic you're fatter than you were when you started-- and with a
tuned-up, hyper-efficient metabolism that makes it easier than ever to
gain more weight.

Dieting works to take weight off. Exercise works to take weight off.
Both of them really only work for as long as you keep up the effort.
But which would you rather live with for the rest of your life-- an
exercise habit, or some weird diet that prevents you from enjoying the
quantity and variety of good eating that most people have available to
them?

Twice in my life I have lost big chunks of weight over short periods
of time-- in my case, not through any intentional dieting but simply
because of situational changes of habits. Yet after both those
episodes, I ended up predisposed to more weight gain because I'd
lowered my baseline metabolic rate. I now weigh close to 400 lbs and
never eat as much as 3000 calories in a day (most days, more like
2000). I don't think I'd be in this situation if I hadn't lost so
much weight so quickly.

Chalo Colina

06-09-2004, 07:58 PM

Badger_South <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 10:32:50 -0400, David Kerber <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
> wrote:
>
> >>
> >> Lost 2 lbs, and kept 'em off through this pm.
> >
> >That would likely be maybe .25 lbs of fat, and 1.75 lbs of water.
>
> No argument there. However, after an evening of modest rehydration, I'm
> still down 2lbs. Prob. daily flux, though. Still I'll take it any way I get
> it. ;-p

Man, you'd best take care dieting that way. My mom, brother, and
sister all lost tons of weight on the Atkins diet-- over 200 lbs.
among them by my reckoning. When they stopped observing the regimen,
it all (plus more) came back so fast you'd scarcely believe it. Now
they eat less than ever and they're fatter than ever.

Like any reduction diet, low-carb trains your body. If you want to
get stronger, you train your body by lifting weights. If you want
greater endurance, you train by doing long-duration athletic activity.
And if you want to train your body to be as fat as possible on the
least possible amount of food, you reduce your food intake.

With low-carb dieting, you train your body to run off of fat. Succeed
in this, and you'll have a body that stores every extra molecule of
starch it can get as fat. It's a bum deal, and it only works for as
long as you're willing to observe the bizarre and ultimately
unsatisfactory dietary guidelines. Let the regimen slip, and like
magic you're fatter than you were when you started-- and with a
tuned-up, hyper-efficient metabolism that makes it easier than ever to
gain more weight.

Dieting works to take weight off. Exercise works to take weight off.
Both of them really only work for as long as you keep up the effort.
But which would you rather live with for the rest of your life-- an
exercise habit, or some weird diet that prevents you from enjoying the
quantity and variety of good eating that most people have available to
them?

Twice in my life I have lost big chunks of weight over short periods
of time-- in my case, not through any intentional dieting but simply
because of situational changes of habits. Yet after both those
episodes, I ended up predisposed to more weight gain because I'd
lowered my baseline metabolic rate. I now weigh close to 400 lbs and
never eat as much as 3000 calories in a day (most days, more like
2000). I don't think I'd be in this situation if I hadn't lost so
much weight so quickly.

Chalo Colina

06-09-2004, 07:58 PM

Badger_South <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 10:32:50 -0400, David Kerber <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
> wrote:
>
> >>
> >> Lost 2 lbs, and kept 'em off through this pm.
> >
> >That would likely be maybe .25 lbs of fat, and 1.75 lbs of water.
>
> No argument there. However, after an evening of modest rehydration, I'm
> still down 2lbs. Prob. daily flux, though. Still I'll take it any way I get
> it. ;-p

Man, you'd best take care dieting that way. My mom, brother, and
sister all lost tons of weight on the Atkins diet-- over 200 lbs.
among them by my reckoning. When they stopped observing the regimen,
it all (plus more) came back so fast you'd scarcely believe it. Now
they eat less than ever and they're fatter than ever.

Like any reduction diet, low-carb trains your body. If you want to
get stronger, you train your body by lifting weights. If you want
greater endurance, you train by doing long-duration athletic activity.
And if you want to train your body to be as fat as possible on the
least possible amount of food, you reduce your food intake.

With low-carb dieting, you train your body to run off of fat. Succeed
in this, and you'll have a body that stores every extra molecule of
starch it can get as fat. It's a bum deal, and it only works for as
long as you're willing to observe the bizarre and ultimately
unsatisfactory dietary guidelines. Let the regimen slip, and like
magic you're fatter than you were when you started-- and with a
tuned-up, hyper-efficient metabolism that makes it easier than ever to
gain more weight.

Dieting works to take weight off. Exercise works to take weight off.
Both of them really only work for as long as you keep up the effort.
But which would you rather live with for the rest of your life-- an
exercise habit, or some weird diet that prevents you from enjoying the
quantity and variety of good eating that most people have available to
them?

Twice in my life I have lost big chunks of weight over short periods
of time-- in my case, not through any intentional dieting but simply
because of situational changes of habits. Yet after both those
episodes, I ended up predisposed to more weight gain because I'd
lowered my baseline metabolic rate. I now weigh close to 400 lbs and
never eat as much as 3000 calories in a day (most days, more like
2000). I don't think I'd be in this situation if I hadn't lost so
much weight so quickly.

Chalo Colina

06-09-2004, 07:58 PM

Badger_South <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
> On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 10:32:50 -0400, David Kerber <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
> wrote:
>
> >>
> >> Lost 2 lbs, and kept 'em off through this pm.
> >
> >That would likely be maybe .25 lbs of fat, and 1.75 lbs of water.
>
> No argument there. However, after an evening of modest rehydration, I'm
> still down 2lbs. Prob. daily flux, though. Still I'll take it any way I get
> it. ;-p

Man, you'd best take care dieting that way. My mom, brother, and
sister all lost tons of weight on the Atkins diet-- over 200 lbs.
among them by my reckoning. When they stopped observing the regimen,
it all (plus more) came back so fast you'd scarcely believe it. Now
they eat less than ever and they're fatter than ever.

Like any reduction diet, low-carb trains your body. If you want to
get stronger, you train your body by lifting weights. If you want
greater endurance, you train by doing long-duration athletic activity.
And if you want to train your body to be as fat as possible on the
least possible amount of food, you reduce your food intake.

With low-carb dieting, you train your body to run off of fat. Succeed
in this, and you'll have a body that stores every extra molecule of
starch it can get as fat. It's a bum deal, and it only works for as
long as you're willing to observe the bizarre and ultimately
unsatisfactory dietary guidelines. Let the regimen slip, and like
magic you're fatter than you were when you started-- and with a
tuned-up, hyper-efficient metabolism that makes it easier than ever to
gain more weight.

Dieting works to take weight off. Exercise works to take weight off.
Both of them really only work for as long as you keep up the effort.
But which would you rather live with for the rest of your life-- an
exercise habit, or some weird diet that prevents you from enjoying the
quantity and variety of good eating that most people have available to
them?

Twice in my life I have lost big chunks of weight over short periods
of time-- in my case, not through any intentional dieting but simply
because of situational changes of habits. Yet after both those
episodes, I ended up predisposed to more weight gain because I'd
lowered my baseline metabolic rate. I now weigh close to 400 lbs and
never eat as much as 3000 calories in a day (most days, more like
2000). I don't think I'd be in this situation if I hadn't lost so
much weight so quickly.

Chalo Colina

06-09-2004, 08:33 PM

Chalo wrote:
:: Badger_South <Badger@South.net> wrote:
:::
::: On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 10:32:50 -0400, David Kerber
::: <ns_dkerber@ns_ids.net> wrote:
:::
:::::
::::: Lost 2 lbs, and kept 'em off through this pm.
::::
:::: That would likely be maybe .25 lbs of fat, and 1.75 lbs of water.
:::
::: No argument there. However, after an evening of modest rehydration,
::: I'm still down 2lbs. Prob. daily flux, though. Still I'll take it
::: any way I get it. ;-p
::
:: Man, you'd best take care dieting that way. My mom, brother, and
:: sister all lost tons of weight on the Atkins diet-- over 200 lbs.
:: among them by my reckoning. When they stopped observing the regimen,
:: it all (plus more) came back so fast you'd scarcely believe it. Now
:: they eat less than ever and they're fatter than ever.

That's because they went nuts and completely abandoned what got them
there....

::
:: Like any reduction diet, low-carb trains your body. If you want to
:: get stronger, you train your body by lifting weights. If you want
:: greater endurance, you train by doing long-duration athletic
:: activity. And if you want to train your body to be as fat as
:: possible on the
:: least possible amount of food, you reduce your food intake.

Not true...

::
:: With low-carb dieting, you train your body to run off of fat.
:: Succeed
:: in this, and you'll have a body that stores every extra molecule of
:: starch it can get as fat.

Not true.....I don't gain fat when I eat carbs...but I would if I over ate
all the time...

It's a bum deal, and it only works for as
:: long as you're willing to observe the bizarre and ultimately
:: unsatisfactory dietary guidelines.

Not true...

Let the regimen slip, and like
:: magic you're fatter than you were when you started-- and with a
:: tuned-up, hyper-efficient metabolism that makes it easier than ever
:: to
:: gain more weight.

Gosh, you're good at pulling **** out of your arse

::
:: Dieting works to take weight off. Exercise works to take weight off.
:: Both of them really only work for as long as you keep up the effort.
:: But which would you rather live with for the rest of your life-- an
:: exercise habit, or some weird diet that prevents you from enjoying
:: the quantity and variety of good eating that most people have
:: available to
:: them?

You know nothing about low carbing....there is nothing weird about what you
eat..the variety is amazing....one simply needs to develop the skill to do
it well.

::
:: Twice in my life I have lost big chunks of weight over short periods
:: of time-- in my case, not through any intentional dieting but simply
:: because of situational changes of habits. Yet after both those
:: episodes, I ended up predisposed to more weight gain because I'd
:: lowered my baseline metabolic rate. I now weigh close to 400 lbs and
:: never eat as much as 3000 calories in a day (most days, more like
:: 2000). I don't think I'd be in this situation if I hadn't lost so
:: much weight so quickly.

How quickly? I started low carbing in October 2001 and i'm down 130
lbs...it has not come back yet....

::
:: Chalo Colina

06-09-2004, 08:33 PM

Chalo wrote:
:: Badger_South <Badger@South.net> wrote:
:::
::: On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 10:32:50 -0400, David Kerber
::: <ns_dkerber@ns_ids.net> wrote:
:::
:::::
::::: Lost 2 lbs, and kept 'em off through this pm.
::::
:::: That would likely be maybe .25 lbs of fat, and 1.75 lbs of water.
:::
::: No argument there. However, after an evening of modest rehydration,
::: I'm still down 2lbs. Prob. daily flux, though. Still I'll take it
::: any way I get it. ;-p
::
:: Man, you'd best take care dieting that way. My mom, brother, and
:: sister all lost tons of weight on the Atkins diet-- over 200 lbs.
:: among them by my reckoning. When they stopped observing the regimen,
:: it all (plus more) came back so fast you'd scarcely believe it. Now
:: they eat less than ever and they're fatter than ever.

That's because they went nuts and completely abandoned what got them
there....

::
:: Like any reduction diet, low-carb trains your body. If you want to
:: get stronger, you train your body by lifting weights. If you want
:: greater endurance, you train by doing long-duration athletic
:: activity. And if you want to train your body to be as fat as
:: possible on the
:: least possible amount of food, you reduce your food intake.

Not true...

::
:: With low-carb dieting, you train your body to run off of fat.
:: Succeed
:: in this, and you'll have a body that stores every extra molecule of
:: starch it can get as fat.

Not true.....I don't gain fat when I eat carbs...but I would if I over ate
all the time...

It's a bum deal, and it only works for as
:: long as you're willing to observe the bizarre and ultimately
:: unsatisfactory dietary guidelines.

Not true...

Let the regimen slip, and like
:: magic you're fatter than you were when you started-- and with a
:: tuned-up, hyper-efficient metabolism that makes it easier than ever
:: to
:: gain more weight.

Gosh, you're good at pulling **** out of your arse

::
:: Dieting works to take weight off. Exercise works to take weight off.
:: Both of them really only work for as long as you keep up the effort.
:: But which would you rather live with for the rest of your life-- an
:: exercise habit, or some weird diet that prevents you from enjoying
:: the quantity and variety of good eating that most people have
:: available to
:: them?

You know nothing about low carbing....there is nothing weird about what you
eat..the variety is amazing....one simply needs to develop the skill to do
it well.

::
:: Twice in my life I have lost big chunks of weight over short periods
:: of time-- in my case, not through any intentional dieting but simply
:: because of situational changes of habits. Yet after both those
:: episodes, I ended up predisposed to more weight gain because I'd
:: lowered my baseline metabolic rate. I now weigh close to 400 lbs and
:: never eat as much as 3000 calories in a day (most days, more like
:: 2000). I don't think I'd be in this situation if I hadn't lost so
:: much weight so quickly.

How quickly? I started low carbing in October 2001 and i'm down 130
lbs...it has not come back yet....

::
:: Chalo Colina

06-09-2004, 08:33 PM

Chalo wrote:
:: Badger_South <Badger@South.net> wrote:
:::
::: On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 10:32:50 -0400, David Kerber
::: <ns_dkerber@ns_ids.net> wrote:
:::
:::::
::::: Lost 2 lbs, and kept 'em off through this pm.
::::
:::: That would likely be maybe .25 lbs of fat, and 1.75 lbs of water.
:::
::: No argument there. However, after an evening of modest rehydration,
::: I'm still down 2lbs. Prob. daily flux, though. Still I'll take it
::: any way I get it. ;-p
::
:: Man, you'd best take care dieting that way. My mom, brother, and
:: sister all lost tons of weight on the Atkins diet-- over 200 lbs.
:: among them by my reckoning. When they stopped observing the regimen,
:: it all (plus more) came back so fast you'd scarcely believe it. Now
:: they eat less than ever and they're fatter than ever.

That's because they went nuts and completely abandoned what got them
there....

::
:: Like any reduction diet, low-carb trains your body. If you want to
:: get stronger, you train your body by lifting weights. If you want
:: greater endurance, you train by doing long-duration athletic
:: activity. And if you want to train your body to be as fat as
:: possible on the
:: least possible amount of food, you reduce your food intake.

Not true...

::
:: With low-carb dieting, you train your body to run off of fat.
:: Succeed
:: in this, and you'll have a body that stores every extra molecule of
:: starch it can get as fat.

Not true.....I don't gain fat when I eat carbs...but I would if I over ate
all the time...

It's a bum deal, and it only works for as
:: long as you're willing to observe the bizarre and ultimately
:: unsatisfactory dietary guidelines.

Not true...

Let the regimen slip, and like
:: magic you're fatter than you were when you started-- and with a
:: tuned-up, hyper-efficient metabolism that makes it easier than ever
:: to
:: gain more weight.

Gosh, you're good at pulling **** out of your arse

::
:: Dieting works to take weight off. Exercise works to take weight off.
:: Both of them really only work for as long as you keep up the effort.
:: But which would you rather live with for the rest of your life-- an
:: exercise habit, or some weird diet that prevents you from enjoying
:: the quantity and variety of good eating that most people have
:: available to
:: them?

You know nothing about low carbing....there is nothing weird about what you
eat..the variety is amazing....one simply needs to develop the skill to do
it well.

::
:: Twice in my life I have lost big chunks of weight over short periods
:: of time-- in my case, not through any intentional dieting but simply
:: because of situational changes of habits. Yet after both those
:: episodes, I ended up predisposed to more weight gain because I'd
:: lowered my baseline metabolic rate. I now weigh close to 400 lbs and
:: never eat as much as 3000 calories in a day (most days, more like
:: 2000). I don't think I'd be in this situation if I hadn't lost so
:: much weight so quickly.

How quickly? I started low carbing in October 2001 and i'm down 130
lbs...it has not come back yet....

::
:: Chalo Colina

06-09-2004, 08:33 PM

Chalo wrote:
:: Badger_South <Badger@South.net> wrote:
:::
::: On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 10:32:50 -0400, David Kerber
::: <ns_dkerber@ns_ids.net> wrote:
:::
:::::
::::: Lost 2 lbs, and kept 'em off through this pm.
::::
:::: That would likely be maybe .25 lbs of fat, and 1.75 lbs of water.
:::
::: No argument there. However, after an evening of modest rehydration,
::: I'm still down 2lbs. Prob. daily flux, though. Still I'll take it
::: any way I get it. ;-p
::
:: Man, you'd best take care dieting that way. My mom, brother, and
:: sister all lost tons of weight on the Atkins diet-- over 200 lbs.
:: among them by my reckoning. When they stopped observing the regimen,
:: it all (plus more) came back so fast you'd scarcely believe it. Now
:: they eat less than ever and they're fatter than ever.

That's because they went nuts and completely abandoned what got them
there....

::
:: Like any reduction diet, low-carb trains your body. If you want to
:: get stronger, you train your body by lifting weights. If you want
:: greater endurance, you train by doing long-duration athletic
:: activity. And if you want to train your body to be as fat as
:: possible on the
:: least possible amount of food, you reduce your food intake.

Not true...

::
:: With low-carb dieting, you train your body to run off of fat.
:: Succeed
:: in this, and you'll have a body that stores every extra molecule of
:: starch it can get as fat.

Not true.....I don't gain fat when I eat carbs...but I would if I over ate
all the time...

It's a bum deal, and it only works for as
:: long as you're willing to observe the bizarre and ultimately
:: unsatisfactory dietary guidelines.

Not true...

Let the regimen slip, and like
:: magic you're fatter than you were when you started-- and with a
:: tuned-up, hyper-efficient metabolism that makes it easier than ever
:: to
:: gain more weight.

Gosh, you're good at pulling **** out of your arse

::
:: Dieting works to take weight off. Exercise works to take weight off.
:: Both of them really only work for as long as you keep up the effort.
:: But which would you rather live with for the rest of your life-- an
:: exercise habit, or some weird diet that prevents you from enjoying
:: the quantity and variety of good eating that most people have
:: available to
:: them?

You know nothing about low carbing....there is nothing weird about what you
eat..the variety is amazing....one simply needs to develop the skill to do
it well.

::
:: Twice in my life I have lost big chunks of weight over short periods
:: of time-- in my case, not through any intentional dieting but simply
:: because of situational changes of habits. Yet after both those
:: episodes, I ended up predisposed to more weight gain because I'd
:: lowered my baseline metabolic rate. I now weigh close to 400 lbs and
:: never eat as much as 3000 calories in a day (most days, more like
:: 2000). I don't think I'd be in this situation if I hadn't lost so
:: much weight so quickly.

How quickly? I started low carbing in October 2001 and i'm down 130
lbs...it has not come back yet....

::
:: Chalo Colina