What did I do wrong? re: nutrition? - Page 15 - Cycling Mob: Road Cycling, Mountain Biking and More

06-10-2004, 06:00 AM

Badger_South <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:

> On 9 Jun 2004 19:58:24 -0700, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] (Chalo) wrote:
>
> >Badger_South <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, 7 Jun 2004 10:32:50 -0400, David Kerber <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Lost 2 lbs, and kept 'em off through this pm.
> >> >
> >> >That would likely be maybe .25 lbs of fat, and 1.75 lbs of water.
> >>
> >> No argument there. However, after an evening of modest rehydration, I'm
> >> still down 2lbs. Prob. daily flux, though. Still I'll take it any way I get
> >> it. ;-p
> >
> >Man, you'd best take care dieting that way. My mom, brother, and
> >sister all lost tons of weight on the Atkins diet-- over 200 lbs.
> >among them by my reckoning. When they stopped observing the regimen,
> >it all (plus more) came back so fast you'd scarcely believe it. Now
> >they eat less than ever and they're fatter than ever.
>
> Thanks for the concern and the testimonial, CC.
>
> However, I'm not new to low carb, I've been doing it since 2000-2001. The
> first time I lost over 70lbs, but then (as you say) I went off the diet due
> to a couple big stressors, and gained back about 40lbs.
>
> So this is my second go, and from the prev. experience, I know the diet is
> a way of life, and not something you do for a short period.
>
> This time my strategy is a little more comprehensive, and that is to couple
> the diet with a fairly high energy lifestyle, doing something that I enjoy
> and that I think I can continue to do for many years (the first time I
> didn't do a lot of exercise, except for weight lifting). In addition I'm
> setting long-term and short-term goals to help me keep up my interest in
> biking.
>
> As I lose the weight, the biking regime increases, and my daily energy
> output increases, so they seem to be synergistic - at least for me. A
> lighter biker is a faster biker; and the better I bike, the further I want
> to go.
>
> The first time on the diet (2000-2002), I didn't have any trouble staying
> on the LC way of eating, and it was a freakish combination of events that
> got me off it, not a desire to stop the diet once I reached the weight.
>
> But your advice is definitely important - you can't just do this diet for a
> short-term goal, and it only 'works', IME, once or twice. You can't yo-yo
> on it, b/c after the first or second time you do it, the body seems to be
> resistant to weight loss that way for many ppl.

you can't do that with *any* diet. it's not restricted to atkins.

06-10-2004, 06:07 AM

>
> Man, you'd best take care dieting that way. My mom, brother, and
> sister all lost tons of weight on the Atkins diet-- over 200 lbs.
> among them by my reckoning. When they stopped observing the regimen,
> it all (plus more) came back so fast you'd scarcely believe it. Now
> they eat less than ever and they're fatter than ever.

Boy, do you know NOTHING about Atkins' Controlled Carbohydrate diet! It is
apparent your family knows even less. This way of eating demands a change
in behavior, not just a quick-loss scheme that lets you go back to eating
Krispy Kremes as soon as you want. The whole basis of it is to eat less
sugar and to eat higher quantities of low glycemic complex carbohydrates for
the rest of your life along with moderate amounts of protein and fat.
That's hardly a radical concept!

Pat in TX

06-10-2004, 06:07 AM

>
> Man, you'd best take care dieting that way. My mom, brother, and
> sister all lost tons of weight on the Atkins diet-- over 200 lbs.
> among them by my reckoning. When they stopped observing the regimen,
> it all (plus more) came back so fast you'd scarcely believe it. Now
> they eat less than ever and they're fatter than ever.

Boy, do you know NOTHING about Atkins' Controlled Carbohydrate diet! It is
apparent your family knows even less. This way of eating demands a change
in behavior, not just a quick-loss scheme that lets you go back to eating
Krispy Kremes as soon as you want. The whole basis of it is to eat less
sugar and to eat higher quantities of low glycemic complex carbohydrates for
the rest of your life along with moderate amounts of protein and fat.
That's hardly a radical concept!

Pat in TX

06-10-2004, 06:07 AM

>
> Man, you'd best take care dieting that way. My mom, brother, and
> sister all lost tons of weight on the Atkins diet-- over 200 lbs.
> among them by my reckoning. When they stopped observing the regimen,
> it all (plus more) came back so fast you'd scarcely believe it. Now
> they eat less than ever and they're fatter than ever.

Boy, do you know NOTHING about Atkins' Controlled Carbohydrate diet! It is
apparent your family knows even less. This way of eating demands a change
in behavior, not just a quick-loss scheme that lets you go back to eating
Krispy Kremes as soon as you want. The whole basis of it is to eat less
sugar and to eat higher quantities of low glycemic complex carbohydrates for
the rest of your life along with moderate amounts of protein and fat.
That's hardly a radical concept!

Pat in TX

06-10-2004, 06:07 AM

>
> Man, you'd best take care dieting that way. My mom, brother, and
> sister all lost tons of weight on the Atkins diet-- over 200 lbs.
> among them by my reckoning. When they stopped observing the regimen,
> it all (plus more) came back so fast you'd scarcely believe it. Now
> they eat less than ever and they're fatter than ever.

Boy, do you know NOTHING about Atkins' Controlled Carbohydrate diet! It is
apparent your family knows even less. This way of eating demands a change
in behavior, not just a quick-loss scheme that lets you go back to eating
Krispy Kremes as soon as you want. The whole basis of it is to eat less
sugar and to eat higher quantities of low glycemic complex carbohydrates for
the rest of your life along with moderate amounts of protein and fat.
That's hardly a radical concept!

Pat in TX

06-10-2004, 06:07 AM

>
> Man, you'd best take care dieting that way. My mom, brother, and
> sister all lost tons of weight on the Atkins diet-- over 200 lbs.
> among them by my reckoning. When they stopped observing the regimen,
> it all (plus more) came back so fast you'd scarcely believe it. Now
> they eat less than ever and they're fatter than ever.

Boy, do you know NOTHING about Atkins' Controlled Carbohydrate diet! It is
apparent your family knows even less. This way of eating demands a change
in behavior, not just a quick-loss scheme that lets you go back to eating
Krispy Kremes as soon as you want. The whole basis of it is to eat less
sugar and to eat higher quantities of low glycemic complex carbohydrates for
the rest of your life along with moderate amounts of protein and fat.
That's hardly a radical concept!

Pat in TX

06-10-2004, 11:07 AM

Terry Morse <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message news:<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>...
> amh wrote:
>
> > I don't usually get dizzy after a ride but I can tell you that I
> > sometimes get dizzy after running. Sometimes it is after a long run or
> > a short run, I can't predict when I'll get this way. A few times it
> > was obviously because I hadn't eaten properly before running. I
> > attribute my dizziness to low blood pressure. I usually do the put the
> > feet above my head if I feel it is necessary. And whatever dizziness
> > passes.
>
> You're describing post-exercise hypotension, a well known (but not
> well studied) symptom. When you stop exercising, the heart rate
> quickly slows down. This reduces the blood flow, and the blood
> pressure drops. Putting your head between your knees should prevent
> fainting. There's an article here that briefly explains what's going
> on:
>
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

Thanks.

>
> (scroll down to "Cardiovascular response following exercise")
>
> I supposed a "warm down" period would reduce the plummet in blood
> pressure, but sometimes that's not possible. On a group ride last
> year, one of the riders got to the top of a long climb and began a
> gentle descent. He passed out, fell and broke his femur. Not good.

I've never had the dizziness on a bike unless I was famished, I mean
famished. I kind of like the feeling after I run though.

Andy

06-10-2004, 11:07 AM

Terry Morse <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message news:<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>...
> amh wrote:
>
> > I don't usually get dizzy after a ride but I can tell you that I
> > sometimes get dizzy after running. Sometimes it is after a long run or
> > a short run, I can't predict when I'll get this way. A few times it
> > was obviously because I hadn't eaten properly before running. I
> > attribute my dizziness to low blood pressure. I usually do the put the
> > feet above my head if I feel it is necessary. And whatever dizziness
> > passes.
>
> You're describing post-exercise hypotension, a well known (but not
> well studied) symptom. When you stop exercising, the heart rate
> quickly slows down. This reduces the blood flow, and the blood
> pressure drops. Putting your head between your knees should prevent
> fainting. There's an article here that briefly explains what's going
> on:
>
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

Thanks.

>
> (scroll down to "Cardiovascular response following exercise")
>
> I supposed a "warm down" period would reduce the plummet in blood
> pressure, but sometimes that's not possible. On a group ride last
> year, one of the riders got to the top of a long climb and began a
> gentle descent. He passed out, fell and broke his femur. Not good.

I've never had the dizziness on a bike unless I was famished, I mean
famished. I kind of like the feeling after I run though.

Andy

06-10-2004, 11:07 AM

Terry Morse <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message news:<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>...
> amh wrote:
>
> > I don't usually get dizzy after a ride but I can tell you that I
> > sometimes get dizzy after running. Sometimes it is after a long run or
> > a short run, I can't predict when I'll get this way. A few times it
> > was obviously because I hadn't eaten properly before running. I
> > attribute my dizziness to low blood pressure. I usually do the put the
> > feet above my head if I feel it is necessary. And whatever dizziness
> > passes.
>
> You're describing post-exercise hypotension, a well known (but not
> well studied) symptom. When you stop exercising, the heart rate
> quickly slows down. This reduces the blood flow, and the blood
> pressure drops. Putting your head between your knees should prevent
> fainting. There's an article here that briefly explains what's going
> on:
>
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

Thanks.

>
> (scroll down to "Cardiovascular response following exercise")
>
> I supposed a "warm down" period would reduce the plummet in blood
> pressure, but sometimes that's not possible. On a group ride last
> year, one of the riders got to the top of a long climb and began a
> gentle descent. He passed out, fell and broke his femur. Not good.

I've never had the dizziness on a bike unless I was famished, I mean
famished. I kind of like the feeling after I run though.

Andy

06-10-2004, 11:07 AM

Terry Morse <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message news:<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>...
> amh wrote:
>
> > I don't usually get dizzy after a ride but I can tell you that I
> > sometimes get dizzy after running. Sometimes it is after a long run or
> > a short run, I can't predict when I'll get this way. A few times it
> > was obviously because I hadn't eaten properly before running. I
> > attribute my dizziness to low blood pressure. I usually do the put the
> > feet above my head if I feel it is necessary. And whatever dizziness
> > passes.
>
> You're describing post-exercise hypotension, a well known (but not
> well studied) symptom. When you stop exercising, the heart rate
> quickly slows down. This reduces the blood flow, and the blood
> pressure drops. Putting your head between your knees should prevent
> fainting. There's an article here that briefly explains what's going
> on:
>
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

Thanks.

>
> (scroll down to "Cardiovascular response following exercise")
>
> I supposed a "warm down" period would reduce the plummet in blood
> pressure, but sometimes that's not possible. On a group ride last
> year, one of the riders got to the top of a long climb and began a
> gentle descent. He passed out, fell and broke his femur. Not good.

I've never had the dizziness on a bike unless I was famished, I mean
famished. I kind of like the feeling after I run though.

Andy