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06-11-2004, 04:14 PM

Rick Onanian <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]:

> On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 20:13:31 -0700, Bernie
> <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>>Tom Slick was a Yankee Trader who sold clocks in the 1800's in New
>>England by having people look after his clock til he got back in the
>>Spring. By then they couldn't part with the lovely thing.
>
> Did clocks need constant supervision in the 1800s?
> --
> Rick Onanian
>
Yeah the batteries lasted only 24 hrs or so.

06-11-2004, 07:37 PM

Rick Onanian wrote:

>On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 20:13:31 -0700, Bernie
><[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
>>Tom Slick was a Yankee Trader who sold clocks in the 1800's in New
>>England by having people look after his clock til he got back in the
>>Spring. By then they couldn't part with the lovely thing.
>>
>
>Did clocks need constant supervision in the 1800s?
>--
>Rick Onanian
>
Yes they did. They had to be wound each week (with a beautiful brass
key). Poppa usually did the job. Owning a clock was a novelty, and
added prestige to the owner. The clock was usually a "parlour" clock,
cased in oak with nice carving and a gong or bells that rang out each hour.
My impression of the stories I read back in my youth was that the
caretakers of his clocks would not take a step down by giving up the
clock. What would the (clockless) neighbours think?
If you can find his stories, they were done with good humour and wisdom
about the human condition.
Best regards, Bernie

06-11-2004, 07:37 PM

Rick Onanian wrote:

>On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 20:13:31 -0700, Bernie
><[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
>>Tom Slick was a Yankee Trader who sold clocks in the 1800's in New
>>England by having people look after his clock til he got back in the
>>Spring. By then they couldn't part with the lovely thing.
>>
>
>Did clocks need constant supervision in the 1800s?
>--
>Rick Onanian
>
Yes they did. They had to be wound each week (with a beautiful brass
key). Poppa usually did the job. Owning a clock was a novelty, and
added prestige to the owner. The clock was usually a "parlour" clock,
cased in oak with nice carving and a gong or bells that rang out each hour.
My impression of the stories I read back in my youth was that the
caretakers of his clocks would not take a step down by giving up the
clock. What would the (clockless) neighbours think?
If you can find his stories, they were done with good humour and wisdom
about the human condition.
Best regards, Bernie

06-11-2004, 07:37 PM

Rick Onanian wrote:

>On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 20:13:31 -0700, Bernie
><[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
>>Tom Slick was a Yankee Trader who sold clocks in the 1800's in New
>>England by having people look after his clock til he got back in the
>>Spring. By then they couldn't part with the lovely thing.
>>
>
>Did clocks need constant supervision in the 1800s?
>--
>Rick Onanian
>
Yes they did. They had to be wound each week (with a beautiful brass
key). Poppa usually did the job. Owning a clock was a novelty, and
added prestige to the owner. The clock was usually a "parlour" clock,
cased in oak with nice carving and a gong or bells that rang out each hour.
My impression of the stories I read back in my youth was that the
caretakers of his clocks would not take a step down by giving up the
clock. What would the (clockless) neighbours think?
If you can find his stories, they were done with good humour and wisdom
about the human condition.
Best regards, Bernie

06-11-2004, 07:37 PM

Rick Onanian wrote:

>On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 20:13:31 -0700, Bernie
><[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
>>Tom Slick was a Yankee Trader who sold clocks in the 1800's in New
>>England by having people look after his clock til he got back in the
>>Spring. By then they couldn't part with the lovely thing.
>>
>
>Did clocks need constant supervision in the 1800s?
>--
>Rick Onanian
>
Yes they did. They had to be wound each week (with a beautiful brass
key). Poppa usually did the job. Owning a clock was a novelty, and
added prestige to the owner. The clock was usually a "parlour" clock,
cased in oak with nice carving and a gong or bells that rang out each hour.
My impression of the stories I read back in my youth was that the
caretakers of his clocks would not take a step down by giving up the
clock. What would the (clockless) neighbours think?
If you can find his stories, they were done with good humour and wisdom
about the human condition.
Best regards, Bernie

06-11-2004, 07:37 PM

Rick Onanian wrote:

>On Thu, 10 Jun 2004 20:13:31 -0700, Bernie
><[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>
>>Tom Slick was a Yankee Trader who sold clocks in the 1800's in New
>>England by having people look after his clock til he got back in the
>>Spring. By then they couldn't part with the lovely thing.
>>
>
>Did clocks need constant supervision in the 1800s?
>--
>Rick Onanian
>
Yes they did. They had to be wound each week (with a beautiful brass
key). Poppa usually did the job. Owning a clock was a novelty, and
added prestige to the owner. The clock was usually a "parlour" clock,
cased in oak with nice carving and a gong or bells that rang out each hour.
My impression of the stories I read back in my youth was that the
caretakers of his clocks would not take a step down by giving up the
clock. What would the (clockless) neighbours think?
If you can find his stories, they were done with good humour and wisdom
about the human condition.
Best regards, Bernie

06-11-2004, 09:27 PM

Thanks Bernie

I do try to balance the load when possible. Sometimes I only bring one bag,
when I go to work for instance,
I was thinking of finding a bag that would sit on top of the frame instead
of clipping to the side. Have not
seen any when I purchased mine but I am sure I can find some.

I think I will have the wheel re-tentioned... if it gives me anymore problem
I will replace it.

"Bernie" <bmcilvan@mouse-potato.com> wrote in message
news:40C91AE2.1050606@mouse-potato.com...
> Daniel Crispin wrote:
>
> >Ok Bernie, full story then

> >
> >I weight 280, the bike is an aluminium frame hybrid with front suspension
> >and seat suspension.
> >
> I owned similar, but no suspension forks.
>
> >
> >
> >The wheel itself have dual wall (is that the right term?) rim made by
> >Shining Extro (never heard of them)
> >and the middle part (moyeux in French) is from an other company I never
> >heard of: Joytech.
> >
> Never heard of them either. Sounds like cheap Asian parts... but that's
> not uncommon.
>
> >
> >The guy told me the spokes were not stainless steel. I don't know what
> >comes bellow stainless steel,
> >steel maybe? He said they tendend to dull out, become white and break
> >rather quickly comparer to higher
> >quality spokes.
> >
> Straight gauge galavanized steel spokes. My mechanic considers them to
> be fairly low quality compared to stainless steel spokes.
>
> >
> >
> >I had the wheel checked at a repair store, they don't sell bikes. Guy
> >seemed competent when I talked to him.
> >He said around 40$ to rebuild the wheel, which is what everyone seems to
> >agree on being a good price. He
> >simply said that it was not a great solution because of the low quality
of
> >the spokes.
> >
> He may be correct.
>
> >
> >
> >I ride on roads only. I don't jump sidewalks or do anything drastic. I
> >will of course hit a bump or pothole once in
> >a while but I try to go around them when possible. I 'have added a rack
to
> >the rear and got 2 bags to go on it.
> >I use it to do my grocery among other things and that can sometimes add
50
> >or more pounds directly on the wheel.
> >
> Keep the load balanced. Between you and the groceries you are carrying
> lots. FWIW, I weigh about 205 lbs these days and broke several rear
> spokes and eventually destroyed a rear wheel doing similarly. The
> solution was a properly tensioned wheel (Deore hub, stainless spokes,
> double wall rim, discounted to about $100 cad). I kept on loading
> everything I wanted to put on it!
> Q: do you have 700c or 26 inch wheels?
>
> >
> >
> >Right now I am hesitating on 3 choices:
> >
> >1. Have the wheel re-tentioned for 40$
> >2. Have the wheel re-tentioned and change the spokes for 40$ plus about
36$
> >for the spokes (total 76$)
> >3. Buy the wheel he suggests with the dual walled rim, Deore center piece
> >and high quality anodized spokes for 95$
> >
> Well, it's your call. The wheel sounds like a cheapie, so I would not
> spend the $76. You will quite possibly get a lot of miles out of the
> $40 retensioning...
> #3 is possibly the best choice, but personally, I don't know.
>
> >
> >
> >One way or an other the racket has got to stop, it's driving me insane...
> >sounds like I am dragging a bunch of beer cans behind me.
> >
> One way or the other, the mechanic you are seeing now can make that
> noise go away. You definitely need a properly built wheel right away.
>
> Best regards, Bernie
> (this has been very interesting)
>

06-11-2004, 09:27 PM

Thanks Bernie

I do try to balance the load when possible. Sometimes I only bring one bag,
when I go to work for instance,
I was thinking of finding a bag that would sit on top of the frame instead
of clipping to the side. Have not
seen any when I purchased mine but I am sure I can find some.

I think I will have the wheel re-tentioned... if it gives me anymore problem
I will replace it.

"Bernie" <bmcilvan@mouse-potato.com> wrote in message
news:40C91AE2.1050606@mouse-potato.com...
> Daniel Crispin wrote:
>
> >Ok Bernie, full story then

> >
> >I weight 280, the bike is an aluminium frame hybrid with front suspension
> >and seat suspension.
> >
> I owned similar, but no suspension forks.
>
> >
> >
> >The wheel itself have dual wall (is that the right term?) rim made by
> >Shining Extro (never heard of them)
> >and the middle part (moyeux in French) is from an other company I never
> >heard of: Joytech.
> >
> Never heard of them either. Sounds like cheap Asian parts... but that's
> not uncommon.
>
> >
> >The guy told me the spokes were not stainless steel. I don't know what
> >comes bellow stainless steel,
> >steel maybe? He said they tendend to dull out, become white and break
> >rather quickly comparer to higher
> >quality spokes.
> >
> Straight gauge galavanized steel spokes. My mechanic considers them to
> be fairly low quality compared to stainless steel spokes.
>
> >
> >
> >I had the wheel checked at a repair store, they don't sell bikes. Guy
> >seemed competent when I talked to him.
> >He said around 40$ to rebuild the wheel, which is what everyone seems to
> >agree on being a good price. He
> >simply said that it was not a great solution because of the low quality
of
> >the spokes.
> >
> He may be correct.
>
> >
> >
> >I ride on roads only. I don't jump sidewalks or do anything drastic. I
> >will of course hit a bump or pothole once in
> >a while but I try to go around them when possible. I 'have added a rack
to
> >the rear and got 2 bags to go on it.
> >I use it to do my grocery among other things and that can sometimes add
50
> >or more pounds directly on the wheel.
> >
> Keep the load balanced. Between you and the groceries you are carrying
> lots. FWIW, I weigh about 205 lbs these days and broke several rear
> spokes and eventually destroyed a rear wheel doing similarly. The
> solution was a properly tensioned wheel (Deore hub, stainless spokes,
> double wall rim, discounted to about $100 cad). I kept on loading
> everything I wanted to put on it!
> Q: do you have 700c or 26 inch wheels?
>
> >
> >
> >Right now I am hesitating on 3 choices:
> >
> >1. Have the wheel re-tentioned for 40$
> >2. Have the wheel re-tentioned and change the spokes for 40$ plus about
36$
> >for the spokes (total 76$)
> >3. Buy the wheel he suggests with the dual walled rim, Deore center piece
> >and high quality anodized spokes for 95$
> >
> Well, it's your call. The wheel sounds like a cheapie, so I would not
> spend the $76. You will quite possibly get a lot of miles out of the
> $40 retensioning...
> #3 is possibly the best choice, but personally, I don't know.
>
> >
> >
> >One way or an other the racket has got to stop, it's driving me insane...
> >sounds like I am dragging a bunch of beer cans behind me.
> >
> One way or the other, the mechanic you are seeing now can make that
> noise go away. You definitely need a properly built wheel right away.
>
> Best regards, Bernie
> (this has been very interesting)
>

06-11-2004, 09:27 PM

Thanks Bernie

I do try to balance the load when possible. Sometimes I only bring one bag,
when I go to work for instance,
I was thinking of finding a bag that would sit on top of the frame instead
of clipping to the side. Have not
seen any when I purchased mine but I am sure I can find some.

I think I will have the wheel re-tentioned... if it gives me anymore problem
I will replace it.

"Bernie" <bmcilvan@mouse-potato.com> wrote in message
news:40C91AE2.1050606@mouse-potato.com...
> Daniel Crispin wrote:
>
> >Ok Bernie, full story then

> >
> >I weight 280, the bike is an aluminium frame hybrid with front suspension
> >and seat suspension.
> >
> I owned similar, but no suspension forks.
>
> >
> >
> >The wheel itself have dual wall (is that the right term?) rim made by
> >Shining Extro (never heard of them)
> >and the middle part (moyeux in French) is from an other company I never
> >heard of: Joytech.
> >
> Never heard of them either. Sounds like cheap Asian parts... but that's
> not uncommon.
>
> >
> >The guy told me the spokes were not stainless steel. I don't know what
> >comes bellow stainless steel,
> >steel maybe? He said they tendend to dull out, become white and break
> >rather quickly comparer to higher
> >quality spokes.
> >
> Straight gauge galavanized steel spokes. My mechanic considers them to
> be fairly low quality compared to stainless steel spokes.
>
> >
> >
> >I had the wheel checked at a repair store, they don't sell bikes. Guy
> >seemed competent when I talked to him.
> >He said around 40$ to rebuild the wheel, which is what everyone seems to
> >agree on being a good price. He
> >simply said that it was not a great solution because of the low quality
of
> >the spokes.
> >
> He may be correct.
>
> >
> >
> >I ride on roads only. I don't jump sidewalks or do anything drastic. I
> >will of course hit a bump or pothole once in
> >a while but I try to go around them when possible. I 'have added a rack
to
> >the rear and got 2 bags to go on it.
> >I use it to do my grocery among other things and that can sometimes add
50
> >or more pounds directly on the wheel.
> >
> Keep the load balanced. Between you and the groceries you are carrying
> lots. FWIW, I weigh about 205 lbs these days and broke several rear
> spokes and eventually destroyed a rear wheel doing similarly. The
> solution was a properly tensioned wheel (Deore hub, stainless spokes,
> double wall rim, discounted to about $100 cad). I kept on loading
> everything I wanted to put on it!
> Q: do you have 700c or 26 inch wheels?
>
> >
> >
> >Right now I am hesitating on 3 choices:
> >
> >1. Have the wheel re-tentioned for 40$
> >2. Have the wheel re-tentioned and change the spokes for 40$ plus about
36$
> >for the spokes (total 76$)
> >3. Buy the wheel he suggests with the dual walled rim, Deore center piece
> >and high quality anodized spokes for 95$
> >
> Well, it's your call. The wheel sounds like a cheapie, so I would not
> spend the $76. You will quite possibly get a lot of miles out of the
> $40 retensioning...
> #3 is possibly the best choice, but personally, I don't know.
>
> >
> >
> >One way or an other the racket has got to stop, it's driving me insane...
> >sounds like I am dragging a bunch of beer cans behind me.
> >
> One way or the other, the mechanic you are seeing now can make that
> noise go away. You definitely need a properly built wheel right away.
>
> Best regards, Bernie
> (this has been very interesting)
>

06-11-2004, 09:27 PM

Thanks Bernie

I do try to balance the load when possible. Sometimes I only bring one bag,
when I go to work for instance,
I was thinking of finding a bag that would sit on top of the frame instead
of clipping to the side. Have not
seen any when I purchased mine but I am sure I can find some.

I think I will have the wheel re-tentioned... if it gives me anymore problem
I will replace it.

"Bernie" <bmcilvan@mouse-potato.com> wrote in message
news:40C91AE2.1050606@mouse-potato.com...
> Daniel Crispin wrote:
>
> >Ok Bernie, full story then

> >
> >I weight 280, the bike is an aluminium frame hybrid with front suspension
> >and seat suspension.
> >
> I owned similar, but no suspension forks.
>
> >
> >
> >The wheel itself have dual wall (is that the right term?) rim made by
> >Shining Extro (never heard of them)
> >and the middle part (moyeux in French) is from an other company I never
> >heard of: Joytech.
> >
> Never heard of them either. Sounds like cheap Asian parts... but that's
> not uncommon.
>
> >
> >The guy told me the spokes were not stainless steel. I don't know what
> >comes bellow stainless steel,
> >steel maybe? He said they tendend to dull out, become white and break
> >rather quickly comparer to higher
> >quality spokes.
> >
> Straight gauge galavanized steel spokes. My mechanic considers them to
> be fairly low quality compared to stainless steel spokes.
>
> >
> >
> >I had the wheel checked at a repair store, they don't sell bikes. Guy
> >seemed competent when I talked to him.
> >He said around 40$ to rebuild the wheel, which is what everyone seems to
> >agree on being a good price. He
> >simply said that it was not a great solution because of the low quality
of
> >the spokes.
> >
> He may be correct.
>
> >
> >
> >I ride on roads only. I don't jump sidewalks or do anything drastic. I
> >will of course hit a bump or pothole once in
> >a while but I try to go around them when possible. I 'have added a rack
to
> >the rear and got 2 bags to go on it.
> >I use it to do my grocery among other things and that can sometimes add
50
> >or more pounds directly on the wheel.
> >
> Keep the load balanced. Between you and the groceries you are carrying
> lots. FWIW, I weigh about 205 lbs these days and broke several rear
> spokes and eventually destroyed a rear wheel doing similarly. The
> solution was a properly tensioned wheel (Deore hub, stainless spokes,
> double wall rim, discounted to about $100 cad). I kept on loading
> everything I wanted to put on it!
> Q: do you have 700c or 26 inch wheels?
>
> >
> >
> >Right now I am hesitating on 3 choices:
> >
> >1. Have the wheel re-tentioned for 40$
> >2. Have the wheel re-tentioned and change the spokes for 40$ plus about
36$
> >for the spokes (total 76$)
> >3. Buy the wheel he suggests with the dual walled rim, Deore center piece
> >and high quality anodized spokes for 95$
> >
> Well, it's your call. The wheel sounds like a cheapie, so I would not
> spend the $76. You will quite possibly get a lot of miles out of the
> $40 retensioning...
> #3 is possibly the best choice, but personally, I don't know.
>
> >
> >
> >One way or an other the racket has got to stop, it's driving me insane...
> >sounds like I am dragging a bunch of beer cans behind me.
> >
> One way or the other, the mechanic you are seeing now can make that
> noise go away. You definitely need a properly built wheel right away.
>
> Best regards, Bernie
> (this has been very interesting)
>