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06-11-2004, 09:27 PM

Thanks Bernie

I do try to balance the load when possible. Sometimes I only bring one bag,
when I go to work for instance,
I was thinking of finding a bag that would sit on top of the frame instead
of clipping to the side. Have not
seen any when I purchased mine but I am sure I can find some.

I think I will have the wheel re-tentioned... if it gives me anymore problem
I will replace it.

"Bernie" <bmcilvan@mouse-potato.com> wrote in message
news:40C91AE2.1050606@mouse-potato.com...
> Daniel Crispin wrote:
>
> >Ok Bernie, full story then

> >
> >I weight 280, the bike is an aluminium frame hybrid with front suspension
> >and seat suspension.
> >
> I owned similar, but no suspension forks.
>
> >
> >
> >The wheel itself have dual wall (is that the right term?) rim made by
> >Shining Extro (never heard of them)
> >and the middle part (moyeux in French) is from an other company I never
> >heard of: Joytech.
> >
> Never heard of them either. Sounds like cheap Asian parts... but that's
> not uncommon.
>
> >
> >The guy told me the spokes were not stainless steel. I don't know what
> >comes bellow stainless steel,
> >steel maybe? He said they tendend to dull out, become white and break
> >rather quickly comparer to higher
> >quality spokes.
> >
> Straight gauge galavanized steel spokes. My mechanic considers them to
> be fairly low quality compared to stainless steel spokes.
>
> >
> >
> >I had the wheel checked at a repair store, they don't sell bikes. Guy
> >seemed competent when I talked to him.
> >He said around 40$ to rebuild the wheel, which is what everyone seems to
> >agree on being a good price. He
> >simply said that it was not a great solution because of the low quality
of
> >the spokes.
> >
> He may be correct.
>
> >
> >
> >I ride on roads only. I don't jump sidewalks or do anything drastic. I
> >will of course hit a bump or pothole once in
> >a while but I try to go around them when possible. I 'have added a rack
to
> >the rear and got 2 bags to go on it.
> >I use it to do my grocery among other things and that can sometimes add
50
> >or more pounds directly on the wheel.
> >
> Keep the load balanced. Between you and the groceries you are carrying
> lots. FWIW, I weigh about 205 lbs these days and broke several rear
> spokes and eventually destroyed a rear wheel doing similarly. The
> solution was a properly tensioned wheel (Deore hub, stainless spokes,
> double wall rim, discounted to about $100 cad). I kept on loading
> everything I wanted to put on it!
> Q: do you have 700c or 26 inch wheels?
>
> >
> >
> >Right now I am hesitating on 3 choices:
> >
> >1. Have the wheel re-tentioned for 40$
> >2. Have the wheel re-tentioned and change the spokes for 40$ plus about
36$
> >for the spokes (total 76$)
> >3. Buy the wheel he suggests with the dual walled rim, Deore center piece
> >and high quality anodized spokes for 95$
> >
> Well, it's your call. The wheel sounds like a cheapie, so I would not
> spend the $76. You will quite possibly get a lot of miles out of the
> $40 retensioning...
> #3 is possibly the best choice, but personally, I don't know.
>
> >
> >
> >One way or an other the racket has got to stop, it's driving me insane...
> >sounds like I am dragging a bunch of beer cans behind me.
> >
> One way or the other, the mechanic you are seeing now can make that
> noise go away. You definitely need a properly built wheel right away.
>
> Best regards, Bernie
> (this has been very interesting)
>

06-11-2004, 09:28 PM

Thanks David, that is what I decided to do. Cheapest and since a well built
wheel is
not supposed to have the problems I have, that sounds like the thing to do.

"David Kerber" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].net...
> In article <rI5yc.72673$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>,
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] says...
> > Ok Bernie, full story then

> >
> > I weight 280, the bike is an aluminium frame hybrid with front
suspension
> > and seat suspension.
> >
> > The wheel itself have dual wall (is that the right term?) rim made by
> > Shining Extro (never heard of them)
> > and the middle part (moyeux in French) is from an other company I never
> > heard of: Joytech.
> > The guy told me the spokes were not stainless steel. I don't know what
> > comes bellow stainless steel,
> > steel maybe? He said they tendend to dull out, become white and break
> > rather quickly comparer to higher
> > quality spokes.
> >
> > I had the wheel checked at a repair store, they don't sell bikes. Guy
> > seemed competent when I talked to him.
> > He said around 40$ to rebuild the wheel, which is what everyone seems to
> > agree on being a good price. He
> > simply said that it was not a great solution because of the low quality
of
> > the spokes.
> >
> > I ride on roads only. I don't jump sidewalks or do anything drastic. I
> > will of course hit a bump or pothole once in
> > a while but I try to go around them when possible. I 'have added a rack
to
> > the rear and got 2 bags to go on it.
> > I use it to do my grocery among other things and that can sometimes add
50
> > or more pounds directly on the wheel.
> >
> > Right now I am hesitating on 3 choices:
> >
> > 1. Have the wheel re-tentioned for 40$
>
> I'd recommend this option; it should get you through at least a few
> years of use.
>
> > 2. Have the wheel re-tentioned and change the spokes for 40$ plus about
36$
> > for the spokes (total 76$)
> > 3. Buy the wheel he suggests with the dual walled rim, Deore center
piece
> > and high quality anodized spokes for 95$
> >
> > One way or an other the racket has got to stop, it's driving me
insane...
> > sounds like I am dragging a bunch of beer cans behind me.
>
> ...
>
> --
> Remove the ns_ from if replying by e-mail (but keep posts in the
> newsgroups if possible).

06-11-2004, 09:28 PM

Thanks David, that is what I decided to do. Cheapest and since a well built
wheel is
not supposed to have the problems I have, that sounds like the thing to do.

"David Kerber" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].net...
> In article <rI5yc.72673$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>,
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] says...
> > Ok Bernie, full story then

> >
> > I weight 280, the bike is an aluminium frame hybrid with front
suspension
> > and seat suspension.
> >
> > The wheel itself have dual wall (is that the right term?) rim made by
> > Shining Extro (never heard of them)
> > and the middle part (moyeux in French) is from an other company I never
> > heard of: Joytech.
> > The guy told me the spokes were not stainless steel. I don't know what
> > comes bellow stainless steel,
> > steel maybe? He said they tendend to dull out, become white and break
> > rather quickly comparer to higher
> > quality spokes.
> >
> > I had the wheel checked at a repair store, they don't sell bikes. Guy
> > seemed competent when I talked to him.
> > He said around 40$ to rebuild the wheel, which is what everyone seems to
> > agree on being a good price. He
> > simply said that it was not a great solution because of the low quality
of
> > the spokes.
> >
> > I ride on roads only. I don't jump sidewalks or do anything drastic. I
> > will of course hit a bump or pothole once in
> > a while but I try to go around them when possible. I 'have added a rack
to
> > the rear and got 2 bags to go on it.
> > I use it to do my grocery among other things and that can sometimes add
50
> > or more pounds directly on the wheel.
> >
> > Right now I am hesitating on 3 choices:
> >
> > 1. Have the wheel re-tentioned for 40$
>
> I'd recommend this option; it should get you through at least a few
> years of use.
>
> > 2. Have the wheel re-tentioned and change the spokes for 40$ plus about
36$
> > for the spokes (total 76$)
> > 3. Buy the wheel he suggests with the dual walled rim, Deore center
piece
> > and high quality anodized spokes for 95$
> >
> > One way or an other the racket has got to stop, it's driving me
insane...
> > sounds like I am dragging a bunch of beer cans behind me.
>
> ...
>
> --
> Remove the ns_ from if replying by e-mail (but keep posts in the
> newsgroups if possible).

06-11-2004, 09:28 PM

Thanks David, that is what I decided to do. Cheapest and since a well built
wheel is
not supposed to have the problems I have, that sounds like the thing to do.

"David Kerber" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].net...
> In article <rI5yc.72673$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>,
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] says...
> > Ok Bernie, full story then

> >
> > I weight 280, the bike is an aluminium frame hybrid with front
suspension
> > and seat suspension.
> >
> > The wheel itself have dual wall (is that the right term?) rim made by
> > Shining Extro (never heard of them)
> > and the middle part (moyeux in French) is from an other company I never
> > heard of: Joytech.
> > The guy told me the spokes were not stainless steel. I don't know what
> > comes bellow stainless steel,
> > steel maybe? He said they tendend to dull out, become white and break
> > rather quickly comparer to higher
> > quality spokes.
> >
> > I had the wheel checked at a repair store, they don't sell bikes. Guy
> > seemed competent when I talked to him.
> > He said around 40$ to rebuild the wheel, which is what everyone seems to
> > agree on being a good price. He
> > simply said that it was not a great solution because of the low quality
of
> > the spokes.
> >
> > I ride on roads only. I don't jump sidewalks or do anything drastic. I
> > will of course hit a bump or pothole once in
> > a while but I try to go around them when possible. I 'have added a rack
to
> > the rear and got 2 bags to go on it.
> > I use it to do my grocery among other things and that can sometimes add
50
> > or more pounds directly on the wheel.
> >
> > Right now I am hesitating on 3 choices:
> >
> > 1. Have the wheel re-tentioned for 40$
>
> I'd recommend this option; it should get you through at least a few
> years of use.
>
> > 2. Have the wheel re-tentioned and change the spokes for 40$ plus about
36$
> > for the spokes (total 76$)
> > 3. Buy the wheel he suggests with the dual walled rim, Deore center
piece
> > and high quality anodized spokes for 95$
> >
> > One way or an other the racket has got to stop, it's driving me
insane...
> > sounds like I am dragging a bunch of beer cans behind me.
>
> ...
>
> --
> Remove the ns_ from if replying by e-mail (but keep posts in the
> newsgroups if possible).

06-11-2004, 09:28 PM

Thanks David, that is what I decided to do. Cheapest and since a well built
wheel is
not supposed to have the problems I have, that sounds like the thing to do.

"David Kerber" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].net...
> In article <rI5yc.72673$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>,
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] says...
> > Ok Bernie, full story then

> >
> > I weight 280, the bike is an aluminium frame hybrid with front
suspension
> > and seat suspension.
> >
> > The wheel itself have dual wall (is that the right term?) rim made by
> > Shining Extro (never heard of them)
> > and the middle part (moyeux in French) is from an other company I never
> > heard of: Joytech.
> > The guy told me the spokes were not stainless steel. I don't know what
> > comes bellow stainless steel,
> > steel maybe? He said they tendend to dull out, become white and break
> > rather quickly comparer to higher
> > quality spokes.
> >
> > I had the wheel checked at a repair store, they don't sell bikes. Guy
> > seemed competent when I talked to him.
> > He said around 40$ to rebuild the wheel, which is what everyone seems to
> > agree on being a good price. He
> > simply said that it was not a great solution because of the low quality
of
> > the spokes.
> >
> > I ride on roads only. I don't jump sidewalks or do anything drastic. I
> > will of course hit a bump or pothole once in
> > a while but I try to go around them when possible. I 'have added a rack
to
> > the rear and got 2 bags to go on it.
> > I use it to do my grocery among other things and that can sometimes add
50
> > or more pounds directly on the wheel.
> >
> > Right now I am hesitating on 3 choices:
> >
> > 1. Have the wheel re-tentioned for 40$
>
> I'd recommend this option; it should get you through at least a few
> years of use.
>
> > 2. Have the wheel re-tentioned and change the spokes for 40$ plus about
36$
> > for the spokes (total 76$)
> > 3. Buy the wheel he suggests with the dual walled rim, Deore center
piece
> > and high quality anodized spokes for 95$
> >
> > One way or an other the racket has got to stop, it's driving me
insane...
> > sounds like I am dragging a bunch of beer cans behind me.
>
> ...
>
> --
> Remove the ns_ from if replying by e-mail (but keep posts in the
> newsgroups if possible).

06-11-2004, 09:28 PM

Thanks David, that is what I decided to do. Cheapest and since a well built
wheel is
not supposed to have the problems I have, that sounds like the thing to do.

"David Kerber" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:[Only registered and activated users can see links. ].net...
> In article <rI5yc.72673$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>,
> [Only registered and activated users can see links. ] says...
> > Ok Bernie, full story then

> >
> > I weight 280, the bike is an aluminium frame hybrid with front
suspension
> > and seat suspension.
> >
> > The wheel itself have dual wall (is that the right term?) rim made by
> > Shining Extro (never heard of them)
> > and the middle part (moyeux in French) is from an other company I never
> > heard of: Joytech.
> > The guy told me the spokes were not stainless steel. I don't know what
> > comes bellow stainless steel,
> > steel maybe? He said they tendend to dull out, become white and break
> > rather quickly comparer to higher
> > quality spokes.
> >
> > I had the wheel checked at a repair store, they don't sell bikes. Guy
> > seemed competent when I talked to him.
> > He said around 40$ to rebuild the wheel, which is what everyone seems to
> > agree on being a good price. He
> > simply said that it was not a great solution because of the low quality
of
> > the spokes.
> >
> > I ride on roads only. I don't jump sidewalks or do anything drastic. I
> > will of course hit a bump or pothole once in
> > a while but I try to go around them when possible. I 'have added a rack
to
> > the rear and got 2 bags to go on it.
> > I use it to do my grocery among other things and that can sometimes add
50
> > or more pounds directly on the wheel.
> >
> > Right now I am hesitating on 3 choices:
> >
> > 1. Have the wheel re-tentioned for 40$
>
> I'd recommend this option; it should get you through at least a few
> years of use.
>
> > 2. Have the wheel re-tentioned and change the spokes for 40$ plus about
36$
> > for the spokes (total 76$)
> > 3. Buy the wheel he suggests with the dual walled rim, Deore center
piece
> > and high quality anodized spokes for 95$
> >
> > One way or an other the racket has got to stop, it's driving me
insane...
> > sounds like I am dragging a bunch of beer cans behind me.
>
> ...
>
> --
> Remove the ns_ from if replying by e-mail (but keep posts in the
> newsgroups if possible).

06-12-2004, 05:11 AM

Daniel Crispin wrote:

>Thanks Bernie

>
>I do try to balance the load when possible. Sometimes I only bring one bag,
>when I go to work for instance,
>
me too, but I think it's done damage to my rear wheel in the past.

>
>I was thinking of finding a bag that would sit on top of the frame instead
>of clipping to the side. Have not
>seen any when I purchased mine but I am sure I can find some.
>
I got a decent one (Axiom) a few years ago - it's a "rack trunk" type
attached with velcro straps. Works very well.

>
>
>I think I will have the wheel re-tentioned... if it gives me anymore problem
>I will replace it.
>
Sounds practical, and feels like it would be the reasonable first thing
to try.
Have a great ride!
Bernie

06-12-2004, 05:11 AM

Daniel Crispin wrote:

>Thanks Bernie

>
>I do try to balance the load when possible. Sometimes I only bring one bag,
>when I go to work for instance,
>
me too, but I think it's done damage to my rear wheel in the past.

>
>I was thinking of finding a bag that would sit on top of the frame instead
>of clipping to the side. Have not
>seen any when I purchased mine but I am sure I can find some.
>
I got a decent one (Axiom) a few years ago - it's a "rack trunk" type
attached with velcro straps. Works very well.

>
>
>I think I will have the wheel re-tentioned... if it gives me anymore problem
>I will replace it.
>
Sounds practical, and feels like it would be the reasonable first thing
to try.
Have a great ride!
Bernie

06-12-2004, 05:11 AM

Daniel Crispin wrote:

>Thanks Bernie

>
>I do try to balance the load when possible. Sometimes I only bring one bag,
>when I go to work for instance,
>
me too, but I think it's done damage to my rear wheel in the past.

>
>I was thinking of finding a bag that would sit on top of the frame instead
>of clipping to the side. Have not
>seen any when I purchased mine but I am sure I can find some.
>
I got a decent one (Axiom) a few years ago - it's a "rack trunk" type
attached with velcro straps. Works very well.

>
>
>I think I will have the wheel re-tentioned... if it gives me anymore problem
>I will replace it.
>
Sounds practical, and feels like it would be the reasonable first thing
to try.
Have a great ride!
Bernie

06-12-2004, 05:11 AM

Daniel Crispin wrote:

>Thanks Bernie

>
>I do try to balance the load when possible. Sometimes I only bring one bag,
>when I go to work for instance,
>
me too, but I think it's done damage to my rear wheel in the past.

>
>I was thinking of finding a bag that would sit on top of the frame instead
>of clipping to the side. Have not
>seen any when I purchased mine but I am sure I can find some.
>
I got a decent one (Axiom) a few years ago - it's a "rack trunk" type
attached with velcro straps. Works very well.

>
>
>I think I will have the wheel re-tentioned... if it gives me anymore problem
>I will replace it.
>
Sounds practical, and feels like it would be the reasonable first thing
to try.
Have a great ride!
Bernie