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06-12-2004, 09:14 AM
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| Re: Holy shatz! Cop stops bicycle! On Sat, 12 Jun 2004 00:16:56 -0400, "Daniel J. Stern" <dastern@127.0.0.1> wrote: >I disagree. Bicycles are required to follow all the same rules of the >road...except there are no teeth to this requirement, since there's no >means by which to exact consequences if they flout traffic law. If >bicycles are to be taken seriously as a means of transportation, >enforceable consequences for traffic law violation is critical. I don't know about the laws in your state, but in mine breaking traffic laws on a bicycle makes you subject to the same tickets and fines as doing it with a auto. To say that the law only can be enforced if you have a license is nonsense. You have to prove ID to the police officer issuing the ticket regardless if you have a license. Can't prove who you are to the police officers satisfaction then he can hold you until you can. Therefore the courts have the same "..means to exact consequences..". If we believe your argument then we would think that a dog walker couldn't be issued a ticket for having a unleashed dog because he doesn't have a dog walking license nor could a litterbug get a ticket because he doesn't have a dumping license. --- Joe REMOVE "Adds" before e-mailing |
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06-12-2004, 09:49 AM
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| Re: Holy shatz! Cop stops bicycle! In rec.autos.driving, Daniel J. Stern said: >On Sat, 12 Jun 2004, maxo wrote: > >> Riding your bike on the sidewalk on Sheridan road in Chicago WILL get >> your bike impounded. Irony is that it's one of the scariest places for >> even experienced riders in town--I've seen full dress racer boys chicken >> out and jump up on the sidewalk there. > >Yeesh. Sounds like fun and merriment for all involved... Only an idiot would ride on Sheridan Road, or any of a thousand other streets that were laid out in the horse-and-buggy days and thus BARELY have enough width for the four lanes of automobile traffic for which they are striped, let alone a bicycle riding along the right hand side. Unfortunately, although there is a fabulous bike path that starts at Hollywood and goes south all the way to Jackson Park, and another one that begins in Evanston and goes north through Wilmette and along the former North Shore Line right-of-way past Ravinia, there is a huge gap in the middle between Hollywood and South Boulevard with no bike path - just ultra-congested, super-narrow Sheridan Road. This is undoubtedly a big part of why some pedalcyclists use it despite the obvious hazards. -- Sloth is the first deadly sin. |
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06-12-2004, 09:49 AM
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| Re: Holy shatz! Cop stops bicycle! In rec.autos.driving, Daniel J. Stern said: >On Sat, 12 Jun 2004, maxo wrote: > >> Riding your bike on the sidewalk on Sheridan road in Chicago WILL get >> your bike impounded. Irony is that it's one of the scariest places for >> even experienced riders in town--I've seen full dress racer boys chicken >> out and jump up on the sidewalk there. > >Yeesh. Sounds like fun and merriment for all involved... Only an idiot would ride on Sheridan Road, or any of a thousand other streets that were laid out in the horse-and-buggy days and thus BARELY have enough width for the four lanes of automobile traffic for which they are striped, let alone a bicycle riding along the right hand side. Unfortunately, although there is a fabulous bike path that starts at Hollywood and goes south all the way to Jackson Park, and another one that begins in Evanston and goes north through Wilmette and along the former North Shore Line right-of-way past Ravinia, there is a huge gap in the middle between Hollywood and South Boulevard with no bike path - just ultra-congested, super-narrow Sheridan Road. This is undoubtedly a big part of why some pedalcyclists use it despite the obvious hazards. -- Sloth is the first deadly sin. |
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06-12-2004, 09:49 AM
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| Re: Holy shatz! Cop stops bicycle! In rec.autos.driving, Daniel J. Stern said: >On Sat, 12 Jun 2004, maxo wrote: > >> Riding your bike on the sidewalk on Sheridan road in Chicago WILL get >> your bike impounded. Irony is that it's one of the scariest places for >> even experienced riders in town--I've seen full dress racer boys chicken >> out and jump up on the sidewalk there. > >Yeesh. Sounds like fun and merriment for all involved... Only an idiot would ride on Sheridan Road, or any of a thousand other streets that were laid out in the horse-and-buggy days and thus BARELY have enough width for the four lanes of automobile traffic for which they are striped, let alone a bicycle riding along the right hand side. Unfortunately, although there is a fabulous bike path that starts at Hollywood and goes south all the way to Jackson Park, and another one that begins in Evanston and goes north through Wilmette and along the former North Shore Line right-of-way past Ravinia, there is a huge gap in the middle between Hollywood and South Boulevard with no bike path - just ultra-congested, super-narrow Sheridan Road. This is undoubtedly a big part of why some pedalcyclists use it despite the obvious hazards. -- Sloth is the first deadly sin. |
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06-12-2004, 09:49 AM
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| Re: Holy shatz! Cop stops bicycle! In rec.autos.driving, Daniel J. Stern said: >On Sat, 12 Jun 2004, maxo wrote: > >> Riding your bike on the sidewalk on Sheridan road in Chicago WILL get >> your bike impounded. Irony is that it's one of the scariest places for >> even experienced riders in town--I've seen full dress racer boys chicken >> out and jump up on the sidewalk there. > >Yeesh. Sounds like fun and merriment for all involved... Only an idiot would ride on Sheridan Road, or any of a thousand other streets that were laid out in the horse-and-buggy days and thus BARELY have enough width for the four lanes of automobile traffic for which they are striped, let alone a bicycle riding along the right hand side. Unfortunately, although there is a fabulous bike path that starts at Hollywood and goes south all the way to Jackson Park, and another one that begins in Evanston and goes north through Wilmette and along the former North Shore Line right-of-way past Ravinia, there is a huge gap in the middle between Hollywood and South Boulevard with no bike path - just ultra-congested, super-narrow Sheridan Road. This is undoubtedly a big part of why some pedalcyclists use it despite the obvious hazards. -- Sloth is the first deadly sin. |
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