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06-12-2004, 09:58 PM

In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>,
Chris B. <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote:
>Not always, though. On my bicycle last year here in Toronto, I
>received a ticket for failing to stop at a red (it wasn't an
>especially blatant offence either, really - I turned right on the red
>without stopping).

Although it is an extremely common violation, by both motorists and
bicyclists.

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06-12-2004, 10:22 PM

"Tom Keats" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:5nmfac.l9.ln@bud.garden.local...
> In article
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] ich.edu>,
> "Daniel J. Stern" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:
>
> > "Compared". Quite a bit, depending on how you define "cause". When
a
> > bicyclist touches-off a multi-vehicle incident, the total tab in
injuries
> > and damages can be quite large.
> >
> >> Can DUI bicyclests ram through the wall of the local McDonald's
killing
> >> and injuring happy meal eaters?
> >
> > They can ram through busy intersections against the light, causing
> > multiple collisions as drivers attempt to avoid hitting them.
Different
> > venue, same effect.
>
> I've heard this point raised in the course of discussion before,
> but I've never seen nor heard of actual incidents where this
> has occurred. Has anyone? And if so, how often does it happen?

I've heard of worse.A few years ago, a pedestrian was killed by a
bicyclist who ran a red. The incident occurred on the street that
Daniel Stern, the original poster, observed the bicyclist being
stopped for running a red. It's not very common, but it does happen.

06-12-2004, 10:22 PM

"Tom Keats" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:5nmfac.l9.ln@bud.garden.local...
> In article
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] ich.edu>,
> "Daniel J. Stern" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:
>
> > "Compared". Quite a bit, depending on how you define "cause". When
a
> > bicyclist touches-off a multi-vehicle incident, the total tab in
injuries
> > and damages can be quite large.
> >
> >> Can DUI bicyclests ram through the wall of the local McDonald's
killing
> >> and injuring happy meal eaters?
> >
> > They can ram through busy intersections against the light, causing
> > multiple collisions as drivers attempt to avoid hitting them.
Different
> > venue, same effect.
>
> I've heard this point raised in the course of discussion before,
> but I've never seen nor heard of actual incidents where this
> has occurred. Has anyone? And if so, how often does it happen?

I've heard of worse.A few years ago, a pedestrian was killed by a
bicyclist who ran a red. The incident occurred on the street that
Daniel Stern, the original poster, observed the bicyclist being
stopped for running a red. It's not very common, but it does happen.

06-12-2004, 10:22 PM

"Tom Keats" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:5nmfac.l9.ln@bud.garden.local...
> In article
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] ich.edu>,
> "Daniel J. Stern" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:
>
> > "Compared". Quite a bit, depending on how you define "cause". When
a
> > bicyclist touches-off a multi-vehicle incident, the total tab in
injuries
> > and damages can be quite large.
> >
> >> Can DUI bicyclests ram through the wall of the local McDonald's
killing
> >> and injuring happy meal eaters?
> >
> > They can ram through busy intersections against the light, causing
> > multiple collisions as drivers attempt to avoid hitting them.
Different
> > venue, same effect.
>
> I've heard this point raised in the course of discussion before,
> but I've never seen nor heard of actual incidents where this
> has occurred. Has anyone? And if so, how often does it happen?

I've heard of worse.A few years ago, a pedestrian was killed by a
bicyclist who ran a red. The incident occurred on the street that
Daniel Stern, the original poster, observed the bicyclist being
stopped for running a red. It's not very common, but it does happen.

06-12-2004, 10:22 PM

"Tom Keats" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:5nmfac.l9.ln@bud.garden.local...
> In article
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] ich.edu>,
> "Daniel J. Stern" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:
>
> > "Compared". Quite a bit, depending on how you define "cause". When
a
> > bicyclist touches-off a multi-vehicle incident, the total tab in
injuries
> > and damages can be quite large.
> >
> >> Can DUI bicyclests ram through the wall of the local McDonald's
killing
> >> and injuring happy meal eaters?
> >
> > They can ram through busy intersections against the light, causing
> > multiple collisions as drivers attempt to avoid hitting them.
Different
> > venue, same effect.
>
> I've heard this point raised in the course of discussion before,
> but I've never seen nor heard of actual incidents where this
> has occurred. Has anyone? And if so, how often does it happen?

I've heard of worse.A few years ago, a pedestrian was killed by a
bicyclist who ran a red. The incident occurred on the street that
Daniel Stern, the original poster, observed the bicyclist being
stopped for running a red. It's not very common, but it does happen.

06-12-2004, 10:22 PM

"Tom Keats" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:5nmfac.l9.ln@bud.garden.local...
> In article
<[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] ich.edu>,
> "Daniel J. Stern" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:
>
> > "Compared". Quite a bit, depending on how you define "cause". When
a
> > bicyclist touches-off a multi-vehicle incident, the total tab in
injuries
> > and damages can be quite large.
> >
> >> Can DUI bicyclests ram through the wall of the local McDonald's
killing
> >> and injuring happy meal eaters?
> >
> > They can ram through busy intersections against the light, causing
> > multiple collisions as drivers attempt to avoid hitting them.
Different
> > venue, same effect.
>
> I've heard this point raised in the course of discussion before,
> but I've never seen nor heard of actual incidents where this
> has occurred. Has anyone? And if so, how often does it happen?

I've heard of worse.A few years ago, a pedestrian was killed by a
bicyclist who ran a red. The incident occurred on the street that
Daniel Stern, the original poster, observed the bicyclist being
stopped for running a red. It's not very common, but it does happen.

06-12-2004, 11:38 PM

In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>, The Lindbergh Baby wrote:

> Okay, has anyone ever seen a cop let a driver off after they ran a red
> light? Hmmmm??

Yes. I've seen cops not even pull people over who ran the red right in
front of them.

06-12-2004, 11:38 PM

In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>, The Lindbergh Baby wrote:

> Okay, has anyone ever seen a cop let a driver off after they ran a red
> light? Hmmmm??

Yes. I've seen cops not even pull people over who ran the red right in
front of them.

06-12-2004, 11:38 PM

In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>, The Lindbergh Baby wrote:

> Okay, has anyone ever seen a cop let a driver off after they ran a red
> light? Hmmmm??

Yes. I've seen cops not even pull people over who ran the red right in
front of them.

06-12-2004, 11:38 PM

In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>, The Lindbergh Baby wrote:

> Okay, has anyone ever seen a cop let a driver off after they ran a red
> light? Hmmmm??

Yes. I've seen cops not even pull people over who ran the red right in
front of them.