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06-12-2004, 11:45 PM

In article <postmaster-D81410.17142012062004@news1.west.earthlink.net>, Daniel T. wrote:

> found himself flat on his back. Amazingly, the bicyclist wasn't hurt, of
> course the driver of the SUV wasn't hurt either, how could he be? Hell,
> I didn't even see any scratches on the side of his vehicle...

I've only hit a car once with my bicycle. I was about 13 at the time.
Bumped into the rear bumper of the neighbor's '79 fairmont. Why? I was
looking at the GTO in garage.

No damage to anyting, but I was going
at a walking pace to get a better look at the GTO.

06-13-2004, 01:05 AM

>"tk" [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

wrote:

>> AMEN to that. It would be espacially nice (for me anyways) if they would
>do this to
>> these idiot kids who have no clue of and/or disregard the rules of the
>road.
>
>Not familiar with the 4th amendment are we?
>

Huh? You've snipped both the author's name and exactly *what* he'd like to see
happen to those "idiot kids" so we can only guess that you think what he's
suggesting violates the Fourth Amendment.

Regards,
Bob Hunt

06-13-2004, 01:05 AM

>"tk" [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

wrote:

>> AMEN to that. It would be espacially nice (for me anyways) if they would
>do this to
>> these idiot kids who have no clue of and/or disregard the rules of the
>road.
>
>Not familiar with the 4th amendment are we?
>

Huh? You've snipped both the author's name and exactly *what* he'd like to see
happen to those "idiot kids" so we can only guess that you think what he's
suggesting violates the Fourth Amendment.

Regards,
Bob Hunt

06-13-2004, 01:05 AM

>"tk" [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

wrote:

>> AMEN to that. It would be espacially nice (for me anyways) if they would
>do this to
>> these idiot kids who have no clue of and/or disregard the rules of the
>road.
>
>Not familiar with the 4th amendment are we?
>

Huh? You've snipped both the author's name and exactly *what* he'd like to see
happen to those "idiot kids" so we can only guess that you think what he's
suggesting violates the Fourth Amendment.

Regards,
Bob Hunt

06-13-2004, 01:05 AM

>"tk" [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

wrote:

>> AMEN to that. It would be espacially nice (for me anyways) if they would
>do this to
>> these idiot kids who have no clue of and/or disregard the rules of the
>road.
>
>Not familiar with the 4th amendment are we?
>

Huh? You've snipped both the author's name and exactly *what* he'd like to see
happen to those "idiot kids" so we can only guess that you think what he's
suggesting violates the Fourth Amendment.

Regards,
Bob Hunt

06-13-2004, 01:05 AM

>"tk" [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

wrote:

>> AMEN to that. It would be espacially nice (for me anyways) if they would
>do this to
>> these idiot kids who have no clue of and/or disregard the rules of the
>road.
>
>Not familiar with the 4th amendment are we?
>

Huh? You've snipped both the author's name and exactly *what* he'd like to see
happen to those "idiot kids" so we can only guess that you think what he's
suggesting violates the Fourth Amendment.

Regards,
Bob Hunt

06-13-2004, 01:35 AM

In article <PwRyc.704101$Pk3.533634@pd7tw1no>,
"nooobody" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:

[actually, Daniel Stern wrote further up this thread:]
>> > They can ram through busy intersections against the light, causing
>> > multiple collisions as drivers attempt to avoid hitting them.
> Different
>> > venue, same effect.

[to which I replied:]
>> I've heard this point raised in the course of discussion before,
>> but I've never seen nor heard of actual incidents where this
>> has occurred. Has anyone? And if so, how often does it happen?

[and now, in article <PwRyc.704101$Pk3.533634@pd7tw1no>,
"nooobody" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:]
> I've heard of worse.A few years ago, a pedestrian was killed by a
> bicyclist who ran a red. The incident occurred on the street that
> Daniel Stern, the original poster, observed the bicyclist being
> stopped for running a red. It's not very common, but it does happen.

That's certainly a tragic and unfortunate incident, but it's still
not the 'multiple collisions' in Mr. Stern's description, which
evokes in me images of tornado-like destruction paths in the
wakes of red light-running cyclists.

I wonder how many pedestrians have been killed by drivers who
ran reds on that street since that incident.

I have no argument against people being fairly and justly held
accountable for their actions. But to me, Mr. Stern appears
to be saying that red light-running cyclists cause real-life
scenes like something from Smokie & the Bandit, and I seriously
/question/ (note I didn't say 'refute') that assertion.

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06-13-2004, 01:35 AM

In article <PwRyc.704101$Pk3.533634@pd7tw1no>,
"nooobody" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:

[actually, Daniel Stern wrote further up this thread:]
>> > They can ram through busy intersections against the light, causing
>> > multiple collisions as drivers attempt to avoid hitting them.
> Different
>> > venue, same effect.

[to which I replied:]
>> I've heard this point raised in the course of discussion before,
>> but I've never seen nor heard of actual incidents where this
>> has occurred. Has anyone? And if so, how often does it happen?

[and now, in article <PwRyc.704101$Pk3.533634@pd7tw1no>,
"nooobody" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:]
> I've heard of worse.A few years ago, a pedestrian was killed by a
> bicyclist who ran a red. The incident occurred on the street that
> Daniel Stern, the original poster, observed the bicyclist being
> stopped for running a red. It's not very common, but it does happen.

That's certainly a tragic and unfortunate incident, but it's still
not the 'multiple collisions' in Mr. Stern's description, which
evokes in me images of tornado-like destruction paths in the
wakes of red light-running cyclists.

I wonder how many pedestrians have been killed by drivers who
ran reds on that street since that incident.

I have no argument against people being fairly and justly held
accountable for their actions. But to me, Mr. Stern appears
to be saying that red light-running cyclists cause real-life
scenes like something from Smokie & the Bandit, and I seriously
/question/ (note I didn't say 'refute') that assertion.

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06-13-2004, 01:35 AM

In article <PwRyc.704101$Pk3.533634@pd7tw1no>,
"nooobody" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:

[actually, Daniel Stern wrote further up this thread:]
>> > They can ram through busy intersections against the light, causing
>> > multiple collisions as drivers attempt to avoid hitting them.
> Different
>> > venue, same effect.

[to which I replied:]
>> I've heard this point raised in the course of discussion before,
>> but I've never seen nor heard of actual incidents where this
>> has occurred. Has anyone? And if so, how often does it happen?

[and now, in article <PwRyc.704101$Pk3.533634@pd7tw1no>,
"nooobody" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:]
> I've heard of worse.A few years ago, a pedestrian was killed by a
> bicyclist who ran a red. The incident occurred on the street that
> Daniel Stern, the original poster, observed the bicyclist being
> stopped for running a red. It's not very common, but it does happen.

That's certainly a tragic and unfortunate incident, but it's still
not the 'multiple collisions' in Mr. Stern's description, which
evokes in me images of tornado-like destruction paths in the
wakes of red light-running cyclists.

I wonder how many pedestrians have been killed by drivers who
ran reds on that street since that incident.

I have no argument against people being fairly and justly held
accountable for their actions. But to me, Mr. Stern appears
to be saying that red light-running cyclists cause real-life
scenes like something from Smokie & the Bandit, and I seriously
/question/ (note I didn't say 'refute') that assertion.

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06-13-2004, 01:35 AM

In article <PwRyc.704101$Pk3.533634@pd7tw1no>,
"nooobody" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:

[actually, Daniel Stern wrote further up this thread:]
>> > They can ram through busy intersections against the light, causing
>> > multiple collisions as drivers attempt to avoid hitting them.
> Different
>> > venue, same effect.

[to which I replied:]
>> I've heard this point raised in the course of discussion before,
>> but I've never seen nor heard of actual incidents where this
>> has occurred. Has anyone? And if so, how often does it happen?

[and now, in article <PwRyc.704101$Pk3.533634@pd7tw1no>,
"nooobody" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> writes:]
> I've heard of worse.A few years ago, a pedestrian was killed by a
> bicyclist who ran a red. The incident occurred on the street that
> Daniel Stern, the original poster, observed the bicyclist being
> stopped for running a red. It's not very common, but it does happen.

That's certainly a tragic and unfortunate incident, but it's still
not the 'multiple collisions' in Mr. Stern's description, which
evokes in me images of tornado-like destruction paths in the
wakes of red light-running cyclists.

I wonder how many pedestrians have been killed by drivers who
ran reds on that street since that incident.

I have no argument against people being fairly and justly held
accountable for their actions. But to me, Mr. Stern appears
to be saying that red light-running cyclists cause real-life
scenes like something from Smokie & the Bandit, and I seriously
/question/ (note I didn't say 'refute') that assertion.

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