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06-13-2004, 06:57 AM

"Timothy J. Lee" <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]> wrote in message
news:caggk7$ma5$[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]...
> In article <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ] ch.edu>,
> Daniel J. Stern <dastern@127.0.0.1> wrote:
> > There's no law requiring
> >registration of bicycles or carrying an operator's license -- or, for that
> >matter, any form of identification at all -- while riding one. Should be,
> >but isn't. So what if the cop stops someone who hasn't got ID? What,
> >exactly, can the cop do?
>
> Presumably the same thing the cop can do when arresting someone for
> jaywalking or other illegal activity, and that person doesn't have ID.

They can lock them up until they identify themselves, like the local PD here is doing
with some idiot protesters who felt they had the right to block a highway last week.

See: [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]

--
Paul

06-13-2004, 07:34 AM

On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 01:20:44 GMT, Arif Khokar <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
wrote:

>Daniel T. wrote:
>
>> The fact is,
>> bicyclists don't have to obey the same traffic laws as cars,
>
>That's fiction, not fact.
>
>> otherwise
>> they would be getting pulled over and fined.
>
>Which has nothing to do with it. Just because a law isn't enforced
>doesn't mean that the law doesn't exist. Cyclists are supposed to
>follow the rules of the road just like a driver does.

I have lived in California and currently in Washington...both states
require adherance to motor vehicle laws by cyclists and both states
actively enforce these laws. Some specific laws relating to cycling
vary from state-to-state...ie. where you can and cannot ride.

People get stopped routinely for running traffic lights/stop signs,
failure to yield to pedestrians/etc. People have evne been stopped
and prosecuted for DUI while riding bicyles, with the same penalties.

B

06-13-2004, 07:34 AM

On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 01:20:44 GMT, Arif Khokar <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
wrote:

>Daniel T. wrote:
>
>> The fact is,
>> bicyclists don't have to obey the same traffic laws as cars,
>
>That's fiction, not fact.
>
>> otherwise
>> they would be getting pulled over and fined.
>
>Which has nothing to do with it. Just because a law isn't enforced
>doesn't mean that the law doesn't exist. Cyclists are supposed to
>follow the rules of the road just like a driver does.

I have lived in California and currently in Washington...both states
require adherance to motor vehicle laws by cyclists and both states
actively enforce these laws. Some specific laws relating to cycling
vary from state-to-state...ie. where you can and cannot ride.

People get stopped routinely for running traffic lights/stop signs,
failure to yield to pedestrians/etc. People have evne been stopped
and prosecuted for DUI while riding bicyles, with the same penalties.

B

06-13-2004, 07:34 AM

On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 01:20:44 GMT, Arif Khokar <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
wrote:

>Daniel T. wrote:
>
>> The fact is,
>> bicyclists don't have to obey the same traffic laws as cars,
>
>That's fiction, not fact.
>
>> otherwise
>> they would be getting pulled over and fined.
>
>Which has nothing to do with it. Just because a law isn't enforced
>doesn't mean that the law doesn't exist. Cyclists are supposed to
>follow the rules of the road just like a driver does.

I have lived in California and currently in Washington...both states
require adherance to motor vehicle laws by cyclists and both states
actively enforce these laws. Some specific laws relating to cycling
vary from state-to-state...ie. where you can and cannot ride.

People get stopped routinely for running traffic lights/stop signs,
failure to yield to pedestrians/etc. People have evne been stopped
and prosecuted for DUI while riding bicyles, with the same penalties.

B

06-13-2004, 07:34 AM

On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 01:20:44 GMT, Arif Khokar <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
wrote:

>Daniel T. wrote:
>
>> The fact is,
>> bicyclists don't have to obey the same traffic laws as cars,
>
>That's fiction, not fact.
>
>> otherwise
>> they would be getting pulled over and fined.
>
>Which has nothing to do with it. Just because a law isn't enforced
>doesn't mean that the law doesn't exist. Cyclists are supposed to
>follow the rules of the road just like a driver does.

I have lived in California and currently in Washington...both states
require adherance to motor vehicle laws by cyclists and both states
actively enforce these laws. Some specific laws relating to cycling
vary from state-to-state...ie. where you can and cannot ride.

People get stopped routinely for running traffic lights/stop signs,
failure to yield to pedestrians/etc. People have evne been stopped
and prosecuted for DUI while riding bicyles, with the same penalties.

B

06-13-2004, 07:34 AM

On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 01:20:44 GMT, Arif Khokar <[Only registered and activated users can see links. ]>
wrote:

>Daniel T. wrote:
>
>> The fact is,
>> bicyclists don't have to obey the same traffic laws as cars,
>
>That's fiction, not fact.
>
>> otherwise
>> they would be getting pulled over and fined.
>
>Which has nothing to do with it. Just because a law isn't enforced
>doesn't mean that the law doesn't exist. Cyclists are supposed to
>follow the rules of the road just like a driver does.

I have lived in California and currently in Washington...both states
require adherance to motor vehicle laws by cyclists and both states
actively enforce these laws. Some specific laws relating to cycling
vary from state-to-state...ie. where you can and cannot ride.

People get stopped routinely for running traffic lights/stop signs,
failure to yield to pedestrians/etc. People have evne been stopped
and prosecuted for DUI while riding bicyles, with the same penalties.

B

06-13-2004, 07:52 AM

On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 06:41:13 GMT, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
(Brent P) wrote:

>I've read of these assinine crackdowns many times. A bicyclist does
>a track stand or simply rolls at 1 inch per hour to prevent falling
>and the cops ticket for not doing a complete stop. I've rarely heard
>of motorists being so ticketed, but for bicyclists it seems to be
>a characteristic of every 'crackdown'.

This has been applied to motorcyclists also and seems to be an
"attitude" issue with cops.

Those that are knowlegable will usually honor those that can maintain
balance at a stop.

Learned this from a CHP officer that conducted a motorcycle safety
course i took years ago. Motorcyclists are 'required' to put one foot
down for a STOP.

06-13-2004, 07:52 AM

On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 06:41:13 GMT, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
(Brent P) wrote:

>I've read of these assinine crackdowns many times. A bicyclist does
>a track stand or simply rolls at 1 inch per hour to prevent falling
>and the cops ticket for not doing a complete stop. I've rarely heard
>of motorists being so ticketed, but for bicyclists it seems to be
>a characteristic of every 'crackdown'.

This has been applied to motorcyclists also and seems to be an
"attitude" issue with cops.

Those that are knowlegable will usually honor those that can maintain
balance at a stop.

Learned this from a CHP officer that conducted a motorcycle safety
course i took years ago. Motorcyclists are 'required' to put one foot
down for a STOP.

06-13-2004, 07:52 AM

On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 06:41:13 GMT, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
(Brent P) wrote:

>I've read of these assinine crackdowns many times. A bicyclist does
>a track stand or simply rolls at 1 inch per hour to prevent falling
>and the cops ticket for not doing a complete stop. I've rarely heard
>of motorists being so ticketed, but for bicyclists it seems to be
>a characteristic of every 'crackdown'.

This has been applied to motorcyclists also and seems to be an
"attitude" issue with cops.

Those that are knowlegable will usually honor those that can maintain
balance at a stop.

Learned this from a CHP officer that conducted a motorcycle safety
course i took years ago. Motorcyclists are 'required' to put one foot
down for a STOP.

06-13-2004, 07:52 AM

On Sun, 13 Jun 2004 06:41:13 GMT, [Only registered and activated users can see links. ]
(Brent P) wrote:

>I've read of these assinine crackdowns many times. A bicyclist does
>a track stand or simply rolls at 1 inch per hour to prevent falling
>and the cops ticket for not doing a complete stop. I've rarely heard
>of motorists being so ticketed, but for bicyclists it seems to be
>a characteristic of every 'crackdown'.

This has been applied to motorcyclists also and seems to be an
"attitude" issue with cops.

Those that are knowlegable will usually honor those that can maintain
balance at a stop.

Learned this from a CHP officer that conducted a motorcycle safety
course i took years ago. Motorcyclists are 'required' to put one foot
down for a STOP.